I'm after some upgraded disks for my VRS, preferably grooved rather than drilled.

Can anyone suggest a reasonably priced source........I don't really want to be forking out £200+

Pads I was thinking Ferodo DS2500 but am swaying towards red stuff now if they meet current regs (when the DS2500s dont')

Since you're looking at reds you're not going to be tacking it hard, I'd say probably stay with OEM.

If you want groves though, then the EBC discs are actually pretty good.

Since you're looking at reds you're not going to be tacking it hard, I'd say probably stay with OEM.

Just fast road....no track use

I'd like to know some cheap suppliers rahter than just a manufacturer...cheers

Edited 18 June, 201016 yr by partyboy1101

cheap suppliers vary with time, but if you're after cheap, then I'd seriously just go get some brembo OEM from GSF or the like.

cheap suppliers vary with time, but if you're after cheap, then I'd seriously just go get some brembo OEM from GSF or the like.

I'm desperate for some disks now, indicator light has come on!!! Anyone bought disks recently and can recommend a cheap supplier?

As Cheeze says the Brembos are good,cheap discs, this is the second set i've had. Search the forum for Brembo then just get a good pad and you're sorted.

I've been out at lunch and picked up some Brembo's from GSF, just need some pads now....I'm thinking EBC redstuff

EBC redstuff is worse than Oem. if you want good fast road pads, you need to be looking into ferrodo DS2500, Pagid RS4-2, or some mintex M1144's. Ive heard alot of issues of redstuff pads crumbling on heavy cars once really hot.

From personal experience id say that replacing the Oem discs with drilled and grooved discs, will see little improvment in braking. unless you go for a larger size disc. considering the massive price difference between oem and after market id say its not worth it.

now its come to replacing my aftermarket discs, ive gone back to Oem matched with mintex m1144s, braided hoses and motul fluid

EBC redstuff is worse than Oem. if you want good fast road pads, you need to be looking into ferrodo DS2500, Pagid RS4-2, or some mintex M1144's. Ive heard alot of issues of redstuff pads crumbling on heavy cars once really hot.

From personal experience id say that replacing the Oem discs with drilled and grooved discs, will see little improvment in braking. unless you go for a larger size disc. considering the massive price difference between oem and after market id say its not worth it.

now its come to replacing my aftermarket discs, ive gone back to Oem matched with mintex m1144s, braided hoses and motul fluid

VRSy, I'd always shyed away from Redstuffs for the same reason but more recent forum posts (both here and elsewhere) suggest that the new compound is somewhat better. My pad of choice would always be DS2500's but I can't stretch that far at the moment and the fact that they're not Reg 90 approved puts me off. Was ok in my '98 Alfa, which didn't need to comply. Certainly can't afford to invalidate my insurance!

never skimp on brakes, you miht end up regretting it.

never skimp on brakes, you miht end up regretting it.

I agree with that sentiment entirely otherwise I'd be using budget pads made of horse hair and dog muck, I still can't afford to use pads that my insurers may use as a reason not to pay out!

I agree with that sentiment entirely otherwise I'd be using budget pads made of horse hair and dog muck, I still can't afford to use pads that my insurers may use as a reason not to pay out!

Id be staying with Oem then,

just because they are aftermarket it dosnt make them better, for exampe the tarox strada ones i had produced more fade than the oem pads

Edited 29 June, 201015 yr by vRSy

EBC redstuff is worse than Oem. if you want good fast road pads, you need to be looking into ferrodo DS2500, Pagid RS4-2, or some mintex M1144's. Ive heard alot of issues of redstuff pads crumbling on heavy cars once really hot.

From personal experience id say that replacing the Oem discs with drilled and grooved discs, will see little improvment in braking. unless you go for a larger size disc. considering the massive price difference between oem and after market id say its not worth it.

now its come to replacing my aftermarket discs, ive gone back to Oem matched with mintex m1144s, braided hoses and motul fluid

I disagree on the red's being worse than OEM. Over 50k on them and no problems here.

I run them and they are far better, as will be noted by the vRS I pulled up well short of, when we were driving along side and a set of lights with a jump camera went red.

OEM discs are good, and I actually don't rate the m1144 because they are not (or were not) exactly quiet at low speeds.

Edited 30 June, 201015 yr by cheezemonkhai

I would recommend BREMBO MAX Discs which are slightly grooved, they come in between OEM discs and your £200+ uprated discs and there are plenty of them on EBAY (Bought for around £115 front pair for Mk1 vRS) and i also have them mated to some Black Diamond Predator pads which i got from DC Performance (Delivered really quick).

I find them to be better than OEM, more bite and feel and i do a fair bit of spirited driving on country roads to and from work. Only issue is that i have a Modded MkI vRS so dont know how they perform on the MkII but I am buying my Dads MkII vRS in a couple of months and will, when needed replace with the same combo.

Ross

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Are there any ultra-lightweight disc options, 2 part disks in OEM size?

I've got some redstuff pads coming for £45 plus VAT.....it pays to know a man who knows a man.

Just got to decide whether I attempt changing disks and pads myself or look for an expert? I need a mechanic mate....anyone in Leeds know what they're doing and fancy lending a hand? Beer tokens provided!!!

Are there any ultra-lightweight disc options, 2 part disks in OEM size?

there are some in development from a guy i know of, will post up in due course, should be due info very soon about it

there are some in development from a guy i know of, will post up in due course, should be due info very soon about it

Cheers Sy

Because of all the tales about EBC Redstuff I got a set a couple of months ago to put on the front of a fairly hard-driven Golf GTi.

So far all is good. They seem a little lifeless at low speeds, but firm braking from high speeds gives plenty of bite (better than the OEM that were fitted). No signs of any cracking or discolouration. Basically fine. I suspect they are a little hard on the discs, but its hard to say after just 3k miles.

One thing I will say though is BED THEM IN GENTLY. None of this fit them and then roast them nonsense. They need a few hundred miles to conform to the surface profile of the discs (even new discs!). Once they have bedded in then you can do some harder braking to burnish the surface. Using them hard from the word go will cause localised overheating of the pad compound and damage the bonding agent.

Because of all the tales about EBC Redstuff I got a set a couple of months ago to put on the front of a fairly hard-driven Golf GTi.

So far all is good. They seem a little lifeless at low speeds, but firm braking from high speeds gives plenty of bite (better than the OEM that were fitted). No signs of any cracking or discolouration. Basically fine. I suspect they are a little hard on the discs, but its hard to say after just 3k miles.

One thing I will say though is BED THEM IN GENTLY. None of this fit them and then roast them nonsense. They need a few hundred miles to conform to the surface profile of the discs (even new discs!). Once they have bedded in then you can do some harder braking to burnish the surface. Using them hard from the word go will cause localised overheating of the pad compound and damage the bonding agent.

Have to be honest, I gave them about 10 miles to get onto the m/way then gave them hell and 50k miles plus later they are still fine and so are the discs.

I don't think the discs will do a second set of pads, but at the end of the day, it doesn't bother me that much as I'm using OEM discs.

Have to be honest, I gave them about 10 miles to get onto the m/way then gave them hell and 50k miles plus later they are still fine and so are the discs.

I don't think the discs will do a second set of pads, but at the end of the day, it doesn't bother me that much as I'm using OEM discs.

Well, if you're getting 50k out of both discs and pads then that's good going by any standards!

i must be alot harder on my brakes , the rears after 30k literally have a few hundered miles left in them, and my front discs, and pads are nearly done after that. they have done 40 laps of the ring, a track day at oschersleben motorsport arena, and track day at brands, and an airfield day at woodbridge though, i ask a lot of my brakes

Well, if you're getting 50k out of both discs and pads then that's good going by any standards!

That's what I thought. £120 every 50k miles is not bad in my book for good brakes.

i must be alot harder on my brakes , the rears after 30k literally have a few hundered miles left in them, and my front discs, and pads are nearly done after that. they have done 40 laps of the ring, a track day at oschersleben motorsport arena, and track day at brands, and an airfield day at woodbridge though, i ask a lot of my brakes

My reds have done the autobahns on a few occasions (with some big stops) and may also have been on a certain de-restricted toll road as well as an airport handling day.

I'm not light on them when required, but I do also look ahead and just lift off when doing the motorway miles.

Edited 1 July, 201015 yr by cheezemonkhai