I have searched everywhere but can't find anyone who has struggled to set up a HTC Desire on bluetooth. I've had the Octavia since Jan and managed to set up Nokia and even a Blackberry first time. I thought it was just the Desire being such a new phone but then tried my husband's HTC Legend - both can be found by the car but show up as not compatible.

1. the dealer says ask customer services

2. the customer services agent says ask the dealer!

To give her due the girl I spoke to said she'll go away and try and find an answer, but it might take a while. Needless to say I had to tell her not to call me on my mobile as I won't get the call if I'm driving.

I know I'm doing it correctly as I successfully set up a Nokia a few days ago then tried the Desire immediately after - with a 20 year old as my technical support.

Any ideas how to solve it? Thanks

I have searched everywhere but can't find anyone who has struggled to set up a HTC Desire on bluetooth. I've had the Octavia since Jan and managed to set up Nokia and even a Blackberry first time. I thought it was just the Desire being such a new phone but then tried my husband's HTC Legend - both can be found by the car but show up as not compatible.

1. the dealer says ask customer services

2. the customer services agent says ask the dealer!

To give her due the girl I spoke to said she'll go away and try and find an answer, but it might take a while. Needless to say I had to tell her not to call me on my mobile as I won't get the call if I'm driving.

I know I'm doing it correctly as I successfully set up a Nokia a few days ago then tried the Desire immediately after - with a 20 year old as my technical support.

Any ideas how to solve it? Thanks

Unfortunately your only solution is a third-party bluetooth kit or to get the new bluetooth module via your dealer. In recent times the UK specification factory bluetooth option has been rSAP profile only on the Superb, also known as VW GSM3. This significantly restricts the supported handsets excluding a good few Blackberry models, all iPhones and Android Handsets. I imagine the UK specified Octavia bluetooth unit has been the same. Assuming your vehicle was delivered in January 2010 it is in the correct time frame to be effected.

It looks like that in hindsight Skoda UK have realised this was a silly decision; most of Europe including Eire had been specifying the VW GSM2 kit which does support nearly all handsets including Android and iPhone through the more ubiquitous HFP profile. Luckily it looks like this has been sorted for new owners, not that is any comfort to yourself.

3) All MY11 Superb 2s built from 22nd June 2010 onwards will have a new bluetooth phone module which supports both HFP and rSAP. The iPhone and all Android phones will work fine with this module, as will all existing phones that use rSAP.

My colleague is just about to take delivery of a Octavia vRS and is having a third-party bluetooth kit fitted. I can't remember the make but I know that VW rebrand this kit as an dealer fit accessory and was recommended over the popular Parrot kits. I'll update this early next week with the details.

Best regards

David

My colleague is just about to take delivery of a Octavia vRS and is having a third-party bluetooth kit fitted. I can't remember the make but I know that VW rebrand this kit as an dealer fit accessory and was recommended over the popular Parrot kits. I'll update this early next week with the details.

It is a Bury CC 9060, details below.

http://www.bury.com/cws/uk/hands-free-car-kits/system-bt-bluetooth-systems/cc-9060/cc-9060.html?a=46&level=1

Best regards

David

It is a Bury CC 9060, details below.

http://www.bury.com/cws/uk/hands-free-car-kits/system-bt-bluetooth-systems/cc-9060/cc-9060.html?a=46&level=1

Best regards

David

David

Seems appalling that I have a car less than 6 months old with a useless piece of high tech kit. I am not inclined to buy anything extra so I guess we will have to live with it aswe do now - looking at it not working! I might suggest we keep an old Nokia in the car and transfer SIMs when we want to make or receive calls, how elegant and time consuming is that!

I'll wait and see what if anything customer services suggest. Surprised more poeple aren't "shouting" about this.

Thanks for the info, if its gets too annoying I'll consider it.

David

Seems appalling that I have a car less than 6 months old with a useless piece of high tech kit. I am not inclined to buy anything extra so I guess we will have to live with it aswe do now - looking at it not working! I might suggest we keep an old Nokia in the car and transfer SIMs when we want to make or receive calls, how elegant and time consuming is that!

I'll wait and see what if anything customer services suggest. Surprised more poeple aren't "shouting" about this.

Thanks for the info, if its gets too annoying I'll consider it.

People have been shouting and the newer GSM III modules apparently support the handsfree profile as well as rsap. Not much use to you but at least people ordering now should get a handsfree kit that works with almost every bluettoth phone made

What a disappointment when expectations don't meet reality....

I don't have a blue tooth unit installed but I use the Columbus Media Aux input from my HTC HD2 to play music and manage hands free phone calls. Sound quality is excellent. If I'm on radio or navigation mode I just hit 'Media' to answer incoming calls. Phone is velcro mounted on dash to right of centre vents. Phone power supply and stereo leads connected at the commencement of each trip.

I used a Blackberry Bluetooth Stereo Gateway for a while but the phone switches from A2DP to Internal speaker for incoming calls. Good stereo quality though.

Edited 5 August, 201015 yr by michaelp

I dont understand, why when Skoda fit a piece of technology that is far superior to the early bluetooth kits, namely RSAP everyone complains. The problem is that phone manufactures are not supporting the new tech, even in their new handsets. About the only new phones that dont work now are Android based phones, and any model of iphone. Current Blackberries, Windows Mobile based phones, All Nokias, and more all support rsap. People should complain to the phone manufacturers and not Skoda, that way we can keep our superior phone systems and not have to resort back to the dated GSM2 system and HFP.

RSAP is stil not a standard option. I thought that most windows phones still needed a trd party app to support RSAP.

And the reason that nokias support it is because it is an Nokia patented protocol. Manufactures need to pay an license fee to use it. Lots of manufactures don't want to do this.

Also Apple raises the question of safety because you could remotly 'take over' the phone and make calls on someone else costs.

I do think it is great and it should be implemented more. And wish my desire supported it. But i'v ordered a moBridge BT module to be fitted in my O2.

I have been looking into this RSAP issue on other forums, and I have picked up another couple of 'angles'.

Firstly, RSAP completely disables your mobile phone, and the Columbus/Bolero unit does all of the work, merely remotely using the Sim card in your phone. One of the downsides is that it disables the data reception on your mobile, as this aspect is not covered in the car head units. So, while RSAP gives you total control over contacts, calls in and out records, SMS etc etc, you will stop receiving emails, weather updates and other data services on your mobile while you are connected to the car. This might not suit everyone.

Secondly, someone came up with an innovative work around - buy a cheapo PAYG Nokia, and link that you your car and, indeed, keep it in the car. When you enter your car, set your normal mobile to forward your calls to the cheapo Nokia, which will be fully integrated into RSAP! Job done! Great for inbound calls, but potentially expensive for outbound ones.

Edited 6 August, 201015 yr by Chinook

It is a Bury CC 9060, details below.

http://www.bury.com/...ml?a=46&level=1

Best regards

David

But who wants a pig ugly thing like that stuck on the dashboard of a brand new car? I most certainly wouldn't want it on the dashboard of mine!

Why not ask shark_90 (Ben) if he can do an exchange of BT module? Or see if he'll fit a Fiscon BT system.

Edited 6 August, 201015 yr by Evening Star

I dont understand, why when Skoda fit a piece of technology that is far superior to the early bluetooth kits, namely RSAP everyone complains. The problem is that phone manufactures are not supporting the new tech, even in their new handsets. About the only new phones that dont work now are Android based phones, and any model of iphone. Current Blackberries, Windows Mobile based phones, All Nokias, and more all support rsap. People should complain to the phone manufacturers and not Skoda, that way we can keep our superior phone systems and not have to resort back to the dated GSM2 system and HFP.

Because rSAP is not superior to only different.

rSAP (remote SIM Access Protocol) turns your phone into an expensive bluetooth SIM holder while you're using it. The SIMs data is transmitted to the Bluetooth kit which contains its own phone circuitry and uses that.

The phone circuitry in your handset is temporarily disabled - including all wireless data.

If my iPhone supported rSAP and I used it for handsfree then when I use CoPilot it would not have access to the data network to download traffic information.

Also the rSAP kit only supports basic 2G frequencies and so doesn't support 3G networks.

A Bluetooth kit which supports the handsfree protocols rather than rSAP can work with foreign non GSM networks, 3G networks, 4G networks etc.

All I can say is we don't need data on the move but specifically wanted to be able to receive calls when one of us is driving a distance, alone. We tend to make a lot of short journeys where I didn't bother using my blackberry via bluetooth.

Is there any possibility of using an adroid on 2g via rSAP?

So it looks like we'll be spending our time switching SIMs to an old Nokia whenever we want to use the bluetooth, then of course back to the phone we we stop to pick up emails etc!.

As you can see I'm not technical, but the only response I've had from Skoda is on this forum - all calls I have made asking about this have not been returned. Would have been nice if someone had had the courtesy to actually tell me what I'm learning here.