Do VAG allow Morrisons diesel fuel to be used in their engines and particularly the 1.4 TDi with it containing biodiesel?

All diesel sold in the UK should have 5% biodiesel as of 2010.

I have a DPF and it states inside the filler cap NO BIODIESEL.

There is no reference to this in the manual, so it's a good question (which I've never thought of).

So - will the 5% biodiesel affect the DPF ?

Edit... just posted a request to SUK.. will let you know when they reply.

Edited 18 August, 201015 yr by HotRod

All diesel fuel purchased from a filling station forecourt has to comply with the DIN EN 590 standard. In 2009 the UK government decided to fiddle about with EN 590, specifying that from February 2010 onwards all diesel fuel would be required to contain a minimum of 7% fatty acid methyl ester (FAME), a biodiesel refined from vegetable oils. The government knew that this would cause problems with some vehicles, and that fuel retailers would be required to prominently display a notice at the point of sale warning motorists that the biodiesel tainted fuel may not be suitable for their vehicle.

Not sure about the technicalities, but having used Morrisons diesel several times (it was convenient and reasonably cheap), my 2.0 TDi smoked on acceleration and idle was slightly lumpy.

Back to Shell now and smoking has all but gone and I'm sure the engine revs better, though that may just be my imagination.

Our local Shell garages are also the cheapest fuel prices around so win/win.

Wont the no biodiesel thing be referring to 100% biodiesel? Considering most countries in europe now run a blend of bio and fossil diesel it would be a bit daft banning any biodiesel at all.

I've never used Morrison's fuel, but IME their products are normally made as cheaply as they can be whilst meeting any relevant standards.

Had my 04 1.4TDi since 2007 ,and between then and 2009 used a lot of Morrison's diesel - purely out of price ,as found my little 1.4 wasn't a fuel snob -it would tank along the M6/A/M74 as well on Morrison's as any other diesel costing a good bit more .Never had any problems, let alone fuel related ones .Manual states that on my model ( which I presume is same as your's as posting on Mk1 FORUM) Bio desiel conforming to standard E51 606 can be mixed in any desired ratio with diesel fuel conforming to EN590 .

bUT A RIDER SAYS NOT TO USE IT BELOW -10C

Not sure about the technicalities, but having used Morrisons diesel several times (it was convenient and reasonably cheap), my 2.0 TDi smoked on acceleration and idle was slightly lumpy.

Back to Shell now and smoking has all but gone and I'm sure the engine revs better, though that may just be my imagination.

Our local Shell garages are also the cheapest fuel prices around so win/win.

I would be amazed if it made that much difference. Maybe modern diesels are a bit more fussy with fuel who knows? I know when i worked for a diesel engine manufacturer we ran two fuels in our test cells a dirty agricultural diesel that was more like kerosene and forecourt diesel, we would normally see about 2-5 hp difference between the two but thats on a 300 hp engine.

Had my 04 1.4TDi since 2007 ,and between then and 2009 used a lot of Morrison's diesel - purely out of price ,as found my little 1.4 wasn't a fuel snob -it would tank along the M6/A/M74 as well on Morrison's as any other diesel costing a good bit more .Never had any problems, let alone fuel related ones .Manual states that on my model ( which I presume is same as your's as posting on Mk1 FORUM) Bio desiel conforming to standard E51 606 can be mixed in any desired ratio with diesel fuel conforming to EN590 .

bUT A RIDER SAYS NOT TO USE IT BELOW -10C

I was under the impression that during the winter months all diesel in the UK was a winter diesel that has a much lower operating temperature?

Thanks for the replies. I have been using Morrison's for the last few weeks and it seems to be the cheapest in the area on my way to work in the morning.

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I would be amazed if it made that much difference. Maybe modern diesels are a bit more fussy with fuel who knows? I know when i worked for a diesel engine manufacturer we ran two fuels in our test cells a dirty agricultural diesel that was more like kerosene and forecourt diesel, we would normally see about 2-5 hp difference between the two but thats on a 300 hp engine.

I was under the impression that during the winter months all diesel in the UK was a winter diesel that has a much lower operating temperature?

I read the bit in the manual to read "don't use Bio in winter "

Official response from SKoda.

Bio-diesel statement

Standard Forecourt Fuel – BS EN 590

Volkswagen Group does approve the use of diesel fuel containing up to 5% Bio-diesel in all of their diesel vehicles. The change to legislation on 15^th April 2008, insisting that fuel suppliers must use at least 2.5% Bio-fuel in diesel production, does not change the current situation. Filling station forecourts supply diesel (to the standard BS EN590), which can contain up to 5% Bio-diesel with 95% Fossil fuel. The use of this fuel requires no modifications to the vehicle or changes to the vehicles’ maintenance schedule.

Important: BS EN 590 is approved for vehicles fitted with a Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF).

B30 Bio-diesel

Volkswagen Group does not approve the use of B30 Bio-diesel in any of its vehicles. B30 Bio-diesel is a blend of 70% Fossil fuel and 30% Bio-fuel, derived from Fatty Acid Methyl Ester (FAME). The use of this fuel in Volkswagen Group vehicles may invalidate the engine and exhaust system warranty.

100% Bio-diesel

Certain Volkswagen Group vehicle models are approved to run on 100% Rapeseed Methyl Ester (RME) Bio-diesel. 100% RME Bio-diesel compatible parts fitted during manufacture of the vehicle is denoted by the vehicle PR code 2G0, which is found on the data sticker; however some of the older vehicles may not have this PR code. Always refer to the Owner’s Handbook and factory information regarding the vehicle’s compliance with Bio-diesel before using this fuel type. In vehicles that are 100% Bio-diesel compatible, Volkswagen Group has only approved the use of Rapeseed Methyl Ester (RME) to standard DIN EN 14214. No other Bio-diesel can be used.

Important:

· Vehicles that do not have the factory preparation for Bio-diesel cannot use 100% Bio-diesel.

· Vehicles fitted with a Common Rail fuel injection system cannot use 100% Bio-diesel.

· Vehicles fitted with Pumpe-Duse injectors cannot use 100% Bio-diesel.

· Vehicles fitted with a Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) cannot use 100% Bio-diesel; however EN590 containing up to 5% Bio-diesel is approved for use with DPF.

· 100% Bio-diesel vehicles cannot be used in temperatures below -10°C.

· The use of 100% Bio-diesel may slightly reduce the driving performance of the vehicle and slightly increase the fuel consumption.

· The use of 100% Bio-diesel may increase the frequency of the maintenance schedule on the vehicle.

So, forgive my ignorance, which filling stations are the best ones to use and which one are to be avoided?? :wonder: