ok, I need some new pads for my brembos, have used ds2500s and they are good, have used green stuffs too, however i know red stuff and yellow stuff are meant to be really good and havent tried them, anyone have any experience?

thanks

Edited 21 August, 201015 yr by sweedish

ok, am thinking yellow stuff now rather than the reds, looks like they are better cold starting so to speak!

DS2500, no competition.

I have used EBC and have even given them a second chance after going off them, but I'm afraid I'm back to the DS2500s again.

thats my gut feeling,

thanks for confirming my concerns i appreciate it.

Know of any good suppliers?

Circuit Supplies are the main suppliers for the UK, I'd start there

you tha man

dont suppose you have tried hawk pads at all, american stuff but heard good too...

Never tried them but red a lot of poor press to be honest. Stick with what you know

Those big brembo's I had came with RedStuff pads.

Fair enough, not compared them to any other pad in the same caliper, but, no complaints about braking performance.

They did become sharper with more heat, but in a way than would suit your driving style

In terms of wear, Recon there's over 75% of the RedStuff pads left ( and you've seen the state of my wheels, and know I work my brakes hard ).

Those CompBrake 6-pots I replaced the Brembo's with, came with Hawk HPS.

As I've mentioned before, not sure the brembo 4-pots didn't have more stable high-speed braking characteristics than the 6-pots.

The 6-pots have better lower speed characteristics though.

However, how much of this is down to the pads or down to the pot config, I have no idea.

I would like to start trying alternative pads tho.

Recon brake pads are like tyres - you try to find reviews, ask people who've used them, you buy some, they say "new improved formula ...", they don't work

Put a different type of pad into each front caliper, Whichever side the car pulls to most during heavy braking will equal the better pad !

Edited 22 August, 201015 yr by snow_muncher

Put a different type of pad into each front caliper, Whichever side the car pulls to most during heavy braking will equal the better pad !

Put a different type of pad into each front caliper, Whichever side the car pulls to most during heavy braking will equal the better pad !

yellow stuff meant to be the improved pad which offers racing characteristics but with no cold start issues ie no warming up needed.

red stuff out the window, yellow stuff too to be honest, its going to be the ds2500s again.

EBC used to have a chart which showed the comparative heat ranges of their brakes pads.

Yellow Stuff used to require more heat to start working properly than the Red Stuff. They seem to have removed this info, and provided no alternative data.

All they comment on is how Yellow Stuff now work better from cold - but they used to be dangerous in the cold, which is why they didn't recommend them for normal use ....

Edited 22 August, 201015 yr by snow_muncher

they are saying new compound so do work from cold now, basically priced the same as red stuff.

i think when it comes down to it, ds2500 will still kick yellow stuffs backside in a slippery mud wrestling competition....and a performance brake comparison test to boot.

reading up on other forums, it seems no bad reviews for ds2500 but quite a few variable reviews on the red and yellow stuff.

DS2500 gets my vote every time, I've never had any problems with any of my sets.

Have heard plenty of negative reviews about the EBC pads.

Steve

Edited 23 August, 201015 yr by Steevie Wonder

Use red stuff on mine found them to be good enough, Greens waste of time no different to standard pads, was going to get yellow to match the car but not sure about use from cold though. Used EBC red stuff on last car Vectra V6 hauled that down from speed no problem. Pads are one of those things you pick from experience, bit like tyres really you are always going to get mixed views.

prob is get mixed reviews from yellow stuff and red stuff, whereas all reviews on ds2500 are spot on, cheers for info too Steve!

When i had my Old Volvo T5 i put some Ferodo Baggins on the fronts, and they managed to stop two and a half tons from speed pretty damned well, can't remember which flippin pads they were tho, except they cost about £150.

DS2500, no competition.

I have used EBC and have even given them a second chance after going off them, but I'm afraid I'm back to the DS2500s again.

+ 1 have run 2 sets of DS2500's over 2 mk 1 vrs's and 150K miles, once bedded in properly there is no better brake pad!

I managed to fry a set of EBC pads my brother had on his MX5 when I took it out for some spirited driving.....it's got a supercharger on it so it goes like stink......just would not stop with EBC's on it!

Edited 24 August, 201015 yr by daver

the current Yellowstuff R compound works as well as a standard pad from cold, they now carry R90 spec labelling.

I have a set i keep for trackdays, and whilst bedding in over a couple of hundred miles found them better than standard pads in all respects as far as cold performance is concerned, but at the same time will tolerate a lot of heat. We also use them in a number of race cars that we support, including 200bhp 1000kg MG ZR's on standard disc and caliper size, and 400bhp 1200kg Audi TT with 335mm Alcon 6-pot setup, and they will tolerate that with no complaints. Equally, Ferodo DSxx00 will always provide good stable performance, they will generally be a fair bit more expensive than yellowstuff so pay your money and make your choice

DS2500, no competition.

I have used EBC and have even given them a second chance after going off them, but I'm afraid I'm back to the DS2500s again.

If I'm honest I don't get why you say this.

I had a set of reds that did over 50k miles, including a/bahn, a certain de-restricted toll road and a few light days. They were not quite fully worn when they came off but still worked well.

They are in my opinion very good pads combined with 312mm OEM discs and callipers.

IMHO they are totally suitable for road use and unlike the DS2500 they are E marked (R90 approved) so you can use them on post 2001 cars without technically breaking the law (I know, I know)

They are also about half to a third of the price of DS2500.

The DS2500 may or may not be better for the heavy heavy track day, but I seem to remember seeing it said that they will wear/break up for heavy track and in those cases go DS3000.

They both show a 0.5 nominal friction co-efficient.

I'll try and get some pictures of the pads and discs as I should have them kicking around still.

I can't comment on the yellows, but I went back to OEM for cost and am really regretting it now.

Edited 24 August, 201015 yr by cheezemonkhai