ok i was out last night working, again loaded up with my normal work stuff plus roof box, and i thought i would try driving like a little old lady lol, i managed 47mpg around mostly town driving out of my 2.0 pd, but for maybe 2-3mpg difference from how i normally drive, not so much like an old lady, it aint worth it, god all the time i was wanting to put my foot down, will be resuming normal driving style tonight. Its still good to hear about this smaller engine though, will be interesting to see if it can out last the old 1.9pd.

thanks really good feed back, nice to see someone getting good mpg from the 1.6CR, do you have to drive like a little old lady to get that good mpg

I'm a taxi driver so I tend to be like a little old lady with customers and steady without. I did all my rallying in my MK2 Ford Escort some years ago.... Good memories

You have a queue a mile long waiting to buy this one if it can top 100mpg!

I would seriously consider having your fuel computer recalibrated!

Mike

Those are not calculated figures. Is mine the only one that reports higher than 100 MPG on the instant readout?

Hot Rod: Ignore the instant mpg readout when looking at mpg values, if you drive along the motorway at 70 you might see 60 mpg, take your foot off & the reading will go way over 100 and then - - - -. What do the average mpg figures showing you? Use the brim to brim method to calculate the true mpg.

I've been reading this thread with interest because I will be changing my current 1.9pd Octy next year and the 1.6cr has the same 105 bhp as the 1.9pd. I currently average 52mpg with the 1.9pd compared to Skoda's combined figure of 55.4mpg. Skoda quote a combined mpg of 62.8 for the 1.6cr, so I would be expecting high 50's, but it looks like owners are getting high 40's which is worse than the 1.9pd.

Does anyone know the difference in mpg between a manual box & DSG with the 1.6cr?

I was thinking of changing my 1.9PD Superb to a 1.6CR Superb next year to try and save money on fuel but after reading peoples replys on this thread im having my doubts. :S

I wish people would stop exaggerating about their fuel economy because it makes it difficult for someone to come to any sort of judgement about individual cars. I have owned a 1.6cr Octavia Estate for a year now and really like the smooth, quiet engine - overall average on the computer is 46mpg. This is backed up by brim to brim figures of between 45mpg - 48mpg which is based on a 60% motorway/dual carriageway & 40% country roads/town driving (350miles per week). From my experience the reality is there is no way you can get above 60mpg average in a big car like the octavia unlesss its on a long downhill slope - that also goes for 1.9pd or 2.0.

I wish people would stop exaggerating about their fuel economy because it makes it difficult for someone to come to any sort of judgement about individual cars. I have owned a 1.6cr Octavia Estate for a year now and really like the smooth, quiet engine - overall average on the computer is 46mpg. This is backed up by brim to brim figures of between 45mpg - 48mpg which is based on a 60% motorway/dual carriageway & 40% country roads/town driving (350miles per week). From my experience the reality is there is no way you can get above 60mpg average in a big car like the octavia unlesss its on a long downhill slope - that also goes for 1.9pd or 2.0.

Hmmm.

My 1.6 is showing 49mpg average overall but that's dropping as I stop worrying about the consumption and get on with driving it. I expect that it'll end up settling down at about 46ish like yours.

My 1.9 (pre-PD) always did better than the 1.6 is doing and the 72mpg trip best was achieved going from Gloucester to central London with a mix of the A40 and M40, some of which is downhill and some of it isn't, but there's very little difference between the end points even though they are over 100 miles apart.

Yes, quoting instantaneous figures isn't going to help, but it seems that there's a lot of folk seem to be getting average consumption closer to the manufacturers figures in the 1.9 and 2.0 cars than are in the 1.6

I was thinking of changing my 1.9PD Superb to a 1.6CR Superb next year to try and save money on fuel but after reading peoples replys on this thread im having my doubts. :S

Do not do it! 1.9D is a better package that the 1.6CR. Smaller engines often means driving style changes and you end up getting a worse fuel consumption. Compare the TSI petrols before going for a diesel. Diesel technical development has almost stalled a part from the improvement in the ECU units where as petrol has surged ahead with 20 to 30 percent improvements in consumption. Even VAG are trying to discourage diesels with giving preference to petrol car production. I heard 1.6 CR is a best OK when light loaded, and that is in an Octavia, and when loaded with people and luggage is a pain. Compare with side by side with 1.4 TSI and to me it is a no brainer and put the difference in the lower buy price aside for fuel and enjoy the extra 20hp.

Edited 11 September, 201015 yr by lol

My 1.6 cr has done 21.000km now. I average (measured, no BC) 5.8 l/100km, which means 48.7 mpg. When I go to work, I'm to be found on a busy piece of road, 15 miles, 9 trafic lights and what we call stop-start trafic.

Yes, it is a quiet companion, with sufficient torque above 1800rpm. I still stall the engine from time to time. You'll have to drive it as a petrol car, it's as easy as that. On spritmonitor.de, a german site where you can register your mpg, it is now clear that the 1.6 cr is 0.3l/100km below the 1.9 pd.

There is no oil consumption (the 1.9 did like some oil) and reliability is good.

My best mpg was on a trip with the cc on 120km/h: 59mpg, my worst mpg was 41mpg (short trips and a lot of towing). Short rips are translated into a higher consumption! The longer the trip, the engine getting warm, the better your mpg.

There is one big difference between the average 1.9pd and the 1.6cr: the 1.6 always has a dpf, which automatically rises consumption. Up till now, I haven't noticed the dpf cleaning itself.

I'm happy with my car. It's a lot quicker than my old one (atmospheric 1.9 diesel, 68 bph passat) with a better mpg, and now I can hear my radio. Uphill, I can now follow the other cars, instead of having to stay with the lorries. But will it do the 351.000 km I achieved with 'the old one'?

I'm very happy with my Octavia. The 1.6 on a recent trip to Galway (Horrendous roads) returned an average of 65mpg which I was very impressed with. With CC at 100kph I'm getting around 60mpg but it depends on traffic flow. I find that if I'm around 90kph I'm getting the best economy so sometimes it's a return for having suffer when driving behind tractors/trucks.

My main fear is how long the engine will last. I'm also concerned about the DPF and whether it will look after itself for as long as possible. I mostly do long distance travel so it shouldn't be too much of a problem but you just don't know!

I got to be honest Guys, my 3 year old scout pd diesel will quite happily average 46-51 MPG - over the past 65K miles it's done I quite often see these figures on the averaged maxidot display (2) on the motorway with cruise set around 80.

I think the 2.0d isn't that far behind the 1.6d in terms of consumption PD or CR. The 1.6d cr will only come into it's own where there's less resistance i.e head wind, flats & speed. The only advantage in the 1.6d cr is it's price, smaller engines generally have torque disadvantage at low revs & generally not that much better on economy.

Your not going to save a packet in the long run on fuel bills in the real world.

Edited 11 September, 201015 yr by wilkopilko

its been a year now since the 1.6cr came out who's done high miles, who have the cars been any problems, any DPF problems and how good are the mpg's after a few miles on the clock?

I've had mine about 10 months now and it's done 38,000 miles. MPG still averaging around 55mpg and can easily do over 60mpg on a good run. Still as smooth and quiet as it was when new and no DPF issues than I'm aware of.

Good points: great economy; quiet and smooth engine; cheap tax.

Bad points: not the fastest car in the world; easy to stall.

Overall I'm happy. But if the 2.0CR had been around at the time I bought it, it would have been a more difficult choice.

I've had mine about 10 months now and it's done 38,000 miles. MPG still averaging around 55mpg and can easily do over 60mpg on a good run. Still as smooth and quiet as it was when new and no DPF issues than I'm aware of.

Good points: great economy; quiet and smooth engine; cheap tax.

Bad points: not the fastest car in the world; easy to stall.

Overall I'm happy. But if the 2.0CR had been around at the time I bought it, it would have been a more difficult choice.

thats the choice i have, i have ordered the 1.6cr, but its not build yet, so thinking about changing order to a 2.0cr, but its more tax more insurance and 1k more to buy so not sure but if the mpg is better than 1.6cr i may make that back, as i do 25k a year.

I have a 1.6 cr Elegance estate which I've had for two weeks since new. (Got it via Carfile brokers and bought from Rainworths in Mansfield with a £3200 saving).

I too was duped by the official fuel economy figures and a little bit of me wishes I had just gone ahead and spent the extra grand and got the VRS. At least the quoted figures helped me to convince my wife that we would be better off running a brand new car than a 25mpg Volvo S70!

Tonight I drove like a ponce from Anglesey to Oswestry - some 85 miles almost entirely on dual carriageway - drove at 60mph on cruise and took it easy accelerating and I coasted on significant hills - I got 60.1mpg on the trip computer - I was starting to think that it needs running in for a few thousand miles for economy to improve until I saw this thread. Regular driving during the week - commutes to work, town driving etc results in around 53mpg - my driving style always seems to exactly match official fuel consumption on the combined cycle for other VAG vehicles I've had so it seems the economy I'm getting from the 1.6 cr unit is more or less the best I will achieve. I guess I'm at least left with the benefits of low tax and the smoothness and low noise of the unit.

I thought that the smugness of knowing I was getting 63mpg average would be enough of a turn-on for me, however, now that it doesn't really pay to be Mr Sensible in this car I am thinking of asking Celtic Tuning to remap it for me to something like 140 hp . Anyone done anything similar with this unit?

Cheers

Edited 17 September, 201015 yr by dwynwen2501

Nightmare (sort of). The DPF is a nightmare and the MPG is very low. I have purchased my Octavia in June.

On 29/08/2010, just after leaving home the DPF light went on. After 45 miles on motorway, limp mode!!! On 2nd of Sept, manual regeneration. Everything appeared OK till today. After 15 miles on motorway, DPF light ON. I carried on for another hour on motorway at more than 2,200 rpm. The DPF light is still on. I'll take the car tomorrow to the dealer....

I do a lot of motorway. Daily commuting, about 10 miles (6 miles on motorway, 2 miles on a 50 mph road and 2 on a 30 mph road). I pay attention to have at least 2000 rpm when at low speeds. At weekends I have a long trip on motorway (at least 40-50 miles). Since the manual regeneration, I had very long journeys on motorway, including a trip to Luton (200 miles ....). I'll speak to the dealer tomorrow. If I can, perhaps I am going to return the car to get a non DPF one ....

Fuel consumption: I used to get around 55 MPG before the manual regeneration; afterwards 45. Bad, really bad.

I wouldn't recommend a DPF car to anyone ....

its been a year now since the 1.6cr came out who's done high miles, who have the cars been any problems, any DPF problems and how good are the mpg's after a few miles on the clock?

Mine is from 07/07/2010 and now has 6400km

Never once the DPF lit up.

Why,

Sometimes you need to floor it, go to high revs, push second and third to max.

Another thing I do is always change gears ( not first to second) above the 2500rpm in normal driving.

5.8L/100km is the average.

I can lower but why?

I also sometimes put the top rated diesel fuel or put in half of normal and the other half the better one.

NO BIODIESEL at any %.

Can you stipulate no DPF when you order???

Nightmare (sort of). The DPF is a nightmare and the MPG is very low. I have purchased my Octavia in June.

On 29/08/2010, just after leaving home the DPF light went on. After 45 miles on motorway, limp mode!!! On 2nd of Sept, manual regeneration. Everything appeared OK till today. After 15 miles on motorway, DPF light ON. I carried on for another hour on motorway at more than 2,200 rpm. The DPF light is still on. I'll take the car tomorrow to the dealer....

I do a lot of motorway. Daily commuting, about 10 miles (6 miles on motorway, 2 miles on a 50 mph road and 2 on a 30 mph road). I pay attention to have at least 2000 rpm when at low speeds. At weekends I have a long trip on motorway (at least 40-50 miles). Since the manual regeneration, I had very long journeys on motorway, including a trip to Luton (200 miles ....). I'll speak to the dealer tomorrow. If I can, perhaps I am going to return the car to get a non DPF one ....

Fuel consumption: I used to get around 55 MPG before the manual regeneration; afterwards 45. Bad, really bad.

I wouldn't recommend a DPF car to anyone ....

It sounds as if you're just unlucky and probably have a faulty car.

I'd never want to buy a new diesel without a DPF. Blowing out big clouds of black smoke every time you give it a bit of stick isn't big or clever in my opinion.

Guess what, this morning as driving to the dealer, the DPF light went off only after 5 min on the motorway..... I was advised to keep a log with all my long journeys, and come back to them if the DPF light is back again .... Moreover, I was told it may be a good idea to use some other "brand" fuels, not only Shell ....

It sounds as if you're just unlucky and probably have a faulty car.

I'd never want to buy a new diesel without a DPF. Blowing out big clouds of black smoke every time you give it a bit of stick isn't big or clever in my opinion.

Hi, owned a Greenline from new, after 1800 miles of fairly mixed driving my trip computer is showing 57.5 mpg.

Hi, owned a Greenline from new, after 1800 miles of fairly mixed driving my trip computer is showing 57.5 mpg.

Do you live at the top of a hill and have a 1800-mile downhill trip to work..?

I drove to my father's last night and managed 64.1mpg there and 38.7 on the way back. my father was in the car for only one of those two journeys. 64.1 is the best I've ever got on that journey, the worst being under 32...

Do you live at the top of a hill and have a 1800-mile downhill trip to work..?

I drove to my father's last night and managed 64.1mpg there and 38.7 on the way back. my father was in the car for only one of those two journeys. 64.1 is the best I've ever got on that journey, the worst being under 32...

Having read the previous postings I'm sticking with my 1.9PD 105 (remapped for torque and economy - NOT BHP!) and showing almost 80k miles.. My dash computer (yes I know it's optimistic!) consistently shows over 68mpg long term average - 69.1 over the last 5k miles - I admit it's 90% dual carriageway/motorway driving but sometimes well laden and ALWAYS driven at or just below the speed limit. On a recent 150 mile trip I achieved 72.4 mpg overall and this was whilst maintaining max allowed speeds within the legal limits (150 miles in just under 3 hrs - single/dual carriageways/short M/way sections/country lanes for 20 miles).

I'm convinced that driving style has a huge effect on economy - I really hate having to apply my brakes, it is such a waste of kinetic energy which is expensive to acquire. Try to look well ahead and anticipate the need to slow down so that all you need to do is just back off the accelerator rather than stand on the brakes at the last minute. Do you really need to show a clean pair of heels to everyone else when the traffic lights turn green? etc.etc..

I'm expecting to be shot down but what I have stated above is the truth! I have my car serviced at DSB Autocare (Nottm) and Dave can hardly believe what shows on the dash computer either. I admit that I've not done regular brim to brim checks but I would suggest that based on refilling amounts vs miles the figures are not grossly out. Probably about 5-7% optimistic.

Anyway, I'm happy with my old rattly PD - you can keep your refined 1.6CR.

Dave (the answer's in your right foot).

Do you live at the top of a hill and have a 1800-mile downhill trip to work..?

I drove to my father's last night and managed 64.1mpg there and 38.7 on the way back. my father was in the car for only one of those two journeys. 64.1 is the best I've ever got on that journey, the worst being under 32...

No, and I certainly wouldn't describe myself as a slow driver. My journey to work is about 12 miles of motorway and 4 of crawling, my average was about 60.2 until recently when my wife gave birth a few weeks ago and I had to crawl backwards and forwards to Leicester General Hospital daily.

To give you some context the car the Octavia replaced was a Golf Gti Mk5 Oettinger mapped to 260hp and I was averaging 29.9 in that.

Well I must say this is probably the most depressing thread I've ever read on briskoda.

I've got a 2005 1.9 BJB PD TDI That has just been driven fast from south of Spain to the midlands and back, well loaded, 6080 Km 3800 miles at 53.52 MPG.

I love my Octavia but one day it will need replacing. I would be happy--very--with another Octavia but the thought of a 1.6 is a total turn off.

What the hell are Skoda thinking of? OK offer 1.6 and VRs but surely they could offer a well sorted 2 litre as well.

Ridiculous. So I shall keep my eye on Exeos from now on. But it still looks like I'll have to have a blasted DPF !!

I suppose it is all linked to saving the planet baloney and trying to starve all plant life of its essential food. God help us.

What the hell are Skoda thinking of? OK offer 1.6 and VRs but surely they could offer a well sorted 2 litre as well.

I'm running the 2.0 tdi 140 CR at present which seems fine.

LOADS of small journeys with the occasional long blat and no DPF issues in 3,000 miles so far...

Getting 44 lowest average around town and 52+ on runs with A roads & high speed motorway use. Bear in mind that I have a heavy right foot.

Love the fact that it pulls from 1500rpm and boost is really working 1700 ish upwards. Not found any lack of power compared with my old Audi A6 2.4 V6.

Steve

Edited 21 September, 201015 yr by Lemming