As title is it a worth while mod? If so what kits have people used?

Cheers

Mike

yes yes and yes

well worth it and much much better than uprated bulbs

bought my kit on ebay for around 45ish, will try to find link.

I always get 4300k bulbs if poss, nearest to true light, not too blue (more blue =less useable light)

angle down on your dash adjuster and you dont dazzle people.

Am sure you will get the usual....its not legal...they blind people....you need washer jets and self levelling blah blah blah...

they are not illegal, angle and adjust properly and you dont blind (any more than every modern merc and bmw) washer jets and self levelling are a recommendation not a requirement iirc

The benefit of proper lighting is far more useful in night time safety and its literally like night and day between halogen and HID bulbs...

storm coming...

Is it possible to equip our Octavias RS with bi-xenon kits, having in mind that they already have OEM xenon bulbs and that for the long range light beam it uses different bulbs?

most octavias have halogen bulbs, not xenon...

if you have projector xenon bulbs then you are ok (these are an option that most uk cars do not have) why bother uprating main beam to xenon/hid as you barely use these anyway.

There aren't any bi-xenon kits for the octy AFAIK.

There aren't any bi-xenon kits for the octy AFAIK.

Yes there are....for the mk1 at least...thats why i said i have some...

There aren't any bi-xenon kits for the octy AFAIK.

Yes there are....for the mk1 at least...thats why i said i have some...

Re-read what gadgetman said ... there are no BI-xenons available, not there are no xenon kits - two completely different things.

i did read what he said..

he said 'there are no bi-xenons....'

I said 'yes there are i have some'........which are BI-xenon HID bulbs.

To summise, my bulbs offer dipped beam and full beam, so i state these are bi-xenon (as does the seller) HID bulbs.

Or do you mean there are no official aftermarket skoda oe bi-xenons...as there arent, quite right, you have to retrofit oe stock?

Edited 12 September, 201015 yr by Oet

Oh, I didn't know that the RHD Octavias RS have halogen light bulbs... I thought xenon came as standard... Most LHD Octavias RS have OEM xenon kits. That's just discrimination....

Edited 12 September, 201015 yr by Devil69

i did read what he said..

he said 'there are no bi-xenons....'

I said 'yes there are i have some'........which are BI-xenon HID bulbs.

To summise, my bulbs offer dipped beam and full beam, so i state these are bi-xenon (as does the seller) HID bulbs.

Or do you mean there are no official aftermarket skoda oe bi-xenons...as there arent, quite right, you have to retrofit oe stock?

So how have you powered up the shutter system?

yup one of the benefits of lhd cars, of course the advantage you have is projector headlight housings too.

You could run a single hid xenon upgrade on your main beam (the one you flash people with) however by the time the bulb warms up its not really worth it...

enjoy your oe xenon as is

So how have you powered up the shutter system?

Are you being pedantic about the difference between oe xenon and retrofit aftermarket HIDs?

No, as someone who runs xenon's in a projector headlight I am genuinely interested how you have wired up the shutter system to enable the same bulb to be used as both dip and main beam.............

they are not illegal, angle and adjust properly and you dont blind (any more than every modern merc and bmw) washer jets and self levelling are a recommendation not a requirement iirc

http://www.dft.gov.u...rs/hidheadlamps

Says it all there pal. For those not wanting to follow the link...

In the Department's view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon.

Under the Road Traffic Act 1988 it is an offence to supply, fit or use vehicle parts which are not legal.

In summary it is not permitted to convert an existing halogen headlamp unit for use with HID bulbs. The entire headlamp unit must be replaced with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs and it must be installed in accordance with the rules stated above.

Cheers.

EDIT: The following also applies RE: self levelling and washer jets

Once fitted to the vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self-levelling (which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension - some expensive estate cars have "self-levelling suspension" and that is adequate). Also the dipped beam must stay on with the main beam.

Edited 12 September, 201015 yr by Jcb.

http://www.dft.gov.u...rs/hidheadlamps

Says it all there pal. For those not wanting to follow the link...

Cheers.

Boring.....if you read, it says in the departments view......it does not say this is law (view is opinion and this has not been passed as case law)

Gizmo, The retrofit kits like this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H4-H4-3-Bi-Xenon-HID-Conversion-Kit-Low-High-Beam-U-K-/330379346373?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4cec24c1c5 allow for both main and dipped beams.

So not quite oe, but still performs the dual light function...and well.

Edited 12 September, 201015 yr by Oet

Thanks that was the kind of kit I thought you were referring to, but your £45 price tag suggested they were normal xenon units, some fit these into the main beam light then think they have a bi-xenon system, whereas what they actually have is a main beam that is useless until the bulb warms up and will fail very quickly.

I assume one of the cables splices into the main beam bulb plug to power the shutter?

No worries, the link should go to a bi-xenon kit for £69.

Its not the kit i have, but the first one i found to show you what i meant.

You are right, fitting a single kit to your main beams would not give you hid lighting on dipped, however the twin kits do both functions.

Its plug and play into your existing setup, and has all required hardwear to function without any cutting of your loom.

Because you are using the same bulb the bulb is already warm and ignited so when you do flash onto main beam the light is instant unlike having a seperate kit for main and dipped.

hth

How do you flash your lights,if dipped beam is not on?? Is there an auxiliary bulb to allow this?

no the bulb is a dual bulb with a shutter style mechanism, they fire when dipped lights are on as soon as you put it to main, with no loss of light.

My octy has xenon projector headlights factory fitted . Driving/Fog lights halogen projector positioned outboard of the Xenons. High beam/flash are halogens positioned inboard above the sidelights.

I don't understand how bi-xenon can work. As soon as you flash a xenon it won't have had time to trigger on (and with that high voltage circuitry, probably wouldn't last long either)

Stef

Edited 12 September, 201015 yr by goonybird

Boring.....if you read, it says in the departments view......it does not say this is law (view is opinion and this has not been passed as case law)

Lol, so who's opinion and recommendation holds more influence to the law, the Department of Transport... or yours?

Lol, so who's opinion and recommendation holds more influence to the law, the Department of Transport... or yours?

yours clearly....zzz

still not law though is it...

Edited 12 September, 201015 yr by Oet

true retroft is of course the best type of system, however the cost of headlight units (circa 500ish) plus the associated self levelling kit from kufatec and then the washer system make a true retrofit very expensive.

The switch between dipped and main is actually faster than on my old oe audi xenon system, and that lasted several years until i sold the car.

Again these kits do work to do both functions, and well, the glare is minimal and i dont get flashed from blinding others.

I have done a LOT of research into oe xenon / aftermarket hids and have done this in a way to not blind others, if they did i would remove them without thought.

The upside is my lights are now no longer woefully underpowered unlike the factory lights and or upgraded 'brighter' halogen bulbs.

They are just not comparable.

Edited 12 September, 201015 yr by Oet

It is interesting to note that many people have requirely had their cars MOTed after fitting 2nd gen HID kits, without issue.

Now I know the UKMOT is pretty crude compared to German TUV or other European system, however it shows they can pass the basic tests.

Since I'm (hopefully) going to see my new engine/turbo running tomorrow, I'll ask my tuner is any kit cars have got through SVA/IVA with HID.

I think the bottom line has to be, if the light on the vehicle pass all the tests, it doesn't matter what type of bulb system you have fitted, be it traditional bulb, HID or even LED

Come to think of it, don't think those muppets @ the DoT even know you can get LED powerful enough for headlights ....