With regards the Foglights being used at reduced brightness (or a separate bulb like non vRS Octavia's and Superbs). I think this is more styling as they seem to reserve the LED for the Sporty/high end versions

Audi do the same. You can get an A3 with normal DRL's but the S-line versions and S3 etc get LED DRL's. It's similar on other marque's in the VAG range.

Your probably right about the EU. But the EU doesn't state they have to be LED DRL it just says DRL.

GOT TO LOVE THIS

The Associations of Drivers against Daytime Running Lights Worldwide. :-)

http://www.dadrl.org.uk/docs/Verheugen%20Dok1%20V08-1.pdf

Some people must have really fulfilled lives if a couple of LED lights is all they worry about

Hopefully this will help but in short

You can't code the instrument cluster to be permanently illuminated (not that i have found and i have looked everywhere)It's either needles lit or full illumination

You can code the LED DRL's to dim with Activation of Indicators

I think you can code the LED DRL brightness for when parked up (i vaguely remember seeing something about this recently will check tonight)

You can't alter the LED brightness when the headlight switch is in the Sidelight Position.

HTH

Carl

Carl what do you mean by full illumination?

If anyone gets blinded/dazzled by LED DRL's then they seriously need there eyes testing for hyper sensitivity. I drive through an Armed security gate every day to get in and out of work. Often in the early hours and never once has anyone complained my DRL's are too bright.

If the LED DRL's were that bright then the Government/VOSA etc wouldn't allow them.

And yet when I do the same I get complained to all the time and rightly so, that's why we switch to sidelights to dim the DRLs.

If its gloomy enough that you feel you need the tears on then (regardless of whether or not you feel it's 'acceptable' to use sidelights for half hour between sunset and night time) the DRLs should be dimmed. They are fairly bright at full power and this is to make them visible in daylight - in gloomier setting they could be a bit dazzling, and I assume this is why they dim off when the proper lights are switched on.

At the end of the day I don't think they look particularly good anyway and would be more interested in turning the damn things off than making them brighter. Why anyone would want them turned up is beyond me.......

I have noticed on VW's there's a tendancy to use the fog lights, at reduced power, as DRLs, and not use LEDs at all. (Most Golfs and Caddys I've seen recently)

It's actually the main beam bulb (60W / 19W H15) that doubles up as the DRL on the latest Golf.

I think they are the best looking non-LED DRL's out there at the minute...

It's actually the main beam bulb (60W / 19W H15) that doubles up as the DRL on the latest Golf.

I think they are the best looking non-LED DRL's out there at the minute...

I stand corrected. I assumed fogs as thought my 51 plate had the fogs in that position.

Agree with them being best non-LED DRL

I assumed fogs as thought my 51 plate had the fogs in that position.

It did, the Mk4 had its fog lights in the headlight cluster

Thanks Carl

Out of interest, if you un-tick the "DRLs as position lights active" tab what do they do? Go out or remain lit when side lights are switched on?

Also have you tried say 85% instead of 100%?

Or is it the other way round, the percentage amount of dimming? Set it to say 5%? Not sure just throwing ideas out there

Thanks

This goes to max 127% and below 10% the leds go out on mine non-vrs model

Carl what do you mean by full illumination?

I mean that with the headlights/sidelights off you only have the needles illuminated/backlit

With the headlights/sidelights on then the whole instrument cluster is illuminated/backlit.

There is no other option available or coding available in VCDS

Pot, kettle.

I don't understand?

I mean that with the headlights/sidelights off you only have the needles illuminated/backlit

With the headlights/sidelights on then the whole instrument cluster is illuminated/backlit.

There is no other option available or coding available in VCDS

Ah I see,

just come back from test driving a new octavia vrs diesel DSG and I was very impressed!!! the DSG Is silk smooth

Driving a manual gearbox next week to compare

Question

Does the brand new Octavia VRS Diesel with DSG get flappy paddles as standard?

It's actually the main beam bulb (60W / 19W H15) that doubles up as the DRL on the latest Golf.

I think they are the best looking non-LED DRL's out there at the minute...

I do not see why we got rid off dim/dip/ introduced as standard on an E reg, the dipped beam lights came on at half power ) a coil wasted the rest) when you put the sidelights on. By the way D R L stands for DAYTIME Running lights . I think they should be off when you have your lights on anyway

Question

Does the brand new Octavia VRS Diesel with DSG get flappy paddles as standard?

I'm pretty certain that the vRS with DSG get's paddles as standard.

I'm pretty certain that the vRS with DSG get's paddles as standard.

Yes it does

Ok, I have finally got a copy of ELSAwin and have the wiring diagram for the LED DRL's. It appears there is 3 connections to the LED itself and the LED has a built in module as such.

One is a direct chassis earth and the other 2 are supplies from the lighting module (i think).

This maybe as simple as it supplies a live to the L/H wire to gain full illumination and then either an earth path or live to the R/H wire to place them in reduced intensity mode.

Could anyone try a multimember on theirs to see what is happening?

If this is true then it would be extremely simple to disable them dimming when on the sidelight position, but allow them to dim as usual when the headlights are switched on.

See the wiring diagram below

I will admit I've not read through the whole of this thread, however I'm assuming someone has pointed out the legality of DRL's dimming once other lights are switched on?

The clue is in the name, these are DAYLIGHT running lights and their job is to make the car easier to see in daylight. They have the sun to compete against and these need to be bright to be seen in the day.

At night it is a different matter, DRL's are too bright for use at night, hence once you switch to sidelight they dim and the same once you go to headlights.

This is a legal requirement with regards DRL's. All vehicles do it, Mercs look bright at night, but I can promise they are dimmer once other lights are switched on.

I'm seeing a lot of messing about here for zero benefit. There is no situation where putting sidelights on is preference to putting headlights on. The FL vRS doesn't even ahve sidelights, you go from DRL's alone to dimmed DRL's with rear lights to dimmed DRL's with headlights and rear lights.

Messing around with wiring for zero benefit and not even a cosmetic thing really does seem like a bit of a waste of time.

I will admit I've not read through the whole of this thread, however I'm assuming someone has pointed out the legality of DRL's dimming once other lights are switched on?

The clue is in the name, these are DAYLIGHT running lights and their job is to make the car easier to see in daylight. They have the sun to compete against and these need to be bright to be seen in the day.

At night it is a different matter, DRL's are too bright for use at night, hence once you switch to sidelight they dim and the same once you go to headlights.

This is a legal requirement with regards DRL's. All vehicles do it, Mercs look bright at night, but I can promise they are dimmer once other lights are switched on.

I'm seeing a lot of messing about here for zero benefit. There is no situation where putting sidelights on is preference to putting headlights on. The FL vRS doesn't even ahve sidelights, you go from DRL's alone to dimmed DRL's with rear lights to dimmed DRL's with headlights and rear lights.

Messing around with wiring for zero benefit and not even a cosmetic thing really does seem like a bit of a waste of time.

We have, however there are a few pratts on here that don't care and want to make their car look like its crashed into halfords.

I will admit I've not read through the whole of this thread.

Perhaps you should have before you posted?

Haven't got the time mate.

The last page seemed not to mention, so I simply assumed that if it had managed to get to page three of a discussion then maybe somebody hadn't mentioned the obvious.

It would appear that it was. Not going to apologise though

I will admit I've not read through the whole of this thread, however I'm assuming someone has pointed out the legality of DRL's dimming once other lights are switched on?

The clue is in the name, these are DAYLIGHT running lights and their job is to make the car easier to see in daylight. They have the sun to compete against and these need to be bright to be seen in the day.

At night it is a different matter, DRL's are too bright for use at night, hence once you switch to sidelight they dim and the same once you go to headlights.

This is a legal requirement with regards DRL's. All vehicles do it, Mercs look bright at night, but I can promise they are dimmer once other lights are switched on.

I'm seeing a lot of messing about here for zero benefit. There is no situation where putting sidelights on is preference to putting headlights on. The FL vRS doesn't even ahve sidelights, you go from DRL's alone to dimmed DRL's with rear lights to dimmed DRL's with headlights and rear lights.

Messing around with wiring for zero benefit and not even a cosmetic thing really does seem like a bit of a waste of time.

Thanks for all that, I hadn't realised :-D

ps. it is only YOUR opinion that it has zero cosmetic benefit and a waste of time!!! If you don't like it then don't read / reply to this thread. Simples!

I think you'll find it's not just my opinion that it's of zero cosmetic benefit and a waste of time. If you could tell me how it is supposed to look better I am all interested.

In low light situations when you should be using lights you'll be nothing but a **** with super bright front lights - a little like the idiots who drive around with front fogs on.

So if your aim is to look like a **** then I say go for it!!

I think you'll find it's not just my opinion that it's of zero cosmetic benefit and a waste of time. If you could tell me how it is supposed to look better I am all interested.

In low light situations when you should be using lights you'll be nothing but a **** with super bright front lights - a little like the idiots who drive around with front fogs on.

So if your aim is to look like a **** then I say go for it!!

You're wasting your time, he is a Pratt that wants to be pulled and fined.