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Looks OK but don't be fooled about the size of the SMIC. It's 13 core while the new one is 7 core. Longer yes, but if you measured the surface area I think you will find the SMIC is slightly larger. The main advantage will be from the greater airflow over the FMIC.

Looking good but I was thinking the same about the surface area however it's now in direct airflow :)

Can you move it more to the right so it sits more central?

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Looks OK but don't be fooled about the size of the SMIC. It's 13 core while the new one is 7 core. Longer yes, but if you measured the surface area I think you will find the SMIC is slightly larger. The main advantage will be from the greater airflow over the FMIC.

I also thought about this when I took it off, but wasn't sure. Yeah it'l get MUCH better airflow than the sidemount so should help a lot!

I think the internal airflow will be better too, rather than having to go down, across, then up as the sidemount runs, it'l be going into the intercooler and straight across it

Looking good but I was thinking the same about the surface area however it's now in direct airflow :)

Can you move it more to the right so it sits more central?

Yeah to the direct airflow bit :)

No to the central bit, it's a little too wide and the grille slightly fouls a pipe io'm using on that side of the intercooler. This is however with me running a 57mm - 50mm reducer, then having a small peice of ally pipe as a joiner, then a 180degree 50mm hose. So I could make it totally central, for the cost of finding some sort of 180 degree 57mm - 50mm reducer, or alternatively buing a 57mm 180 degree hose and reducing it after the bend, but I'm not 100% bothered at this time, i'm just trying to keep costs down :)

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Be interesting to see if it makes much of a difference. Head/heart hope it really does. even if just because of the airflow.

I reckon it's 50-100% bigger than the standard one but it's probably bar/plate rather than tube/fin. Tube/fin tends to cool better for the same size pipe but restricts flow more (some restriction is inevitible).

Hopefully, long lengths of bar/plate will cool better AND flow better. Though I think you'd ditch most of the standard pipework to get it to flow optimally whilst and reducing pipe lengths.

Best "cheap" I/Cs I know of are Hybrid tube/fin jobs that are sometimes found on the front of Imprezas. Don't think they're cheap, compare with Jap manufacturers and the likes of Hyperflow etc... (or even Pace etc in the UK).

J.

proper sized fmic

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Another 'proper' one. Problem with the cheap eBay coolers is there in no research done on them and not tested for this application. As most don't appreciate this fact it's killing the tuning trade and forcing the prices of proper kit up.

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proper sized fmic

intercoolerclean006.jpg

cool. shame it costs 3x the amount mine has.

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Another 'proper' one. Problem with the cheap eBay coolers is there in no research done on them and not tested for this application. As most don't appreciate this fact it's killing the tuning trade and forcing the prices of proper kit up.

fap fap fap.

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Be interesting to see if it makes much of a difference. Head/heart hope it really does. even if just because of the airflow.

I reckon it's 50-100% bigger than the standard one but it's probably bar/plate rather than tube/fin. Tube/fin tends to cool better for the same size pipe but restricts flow more (some restriction is inevitible).

Hopefully, long lengths of bar/plate will cool better AND flow better. Though I think you'd ditch most of the standard pipework to get it to flow optimally whilst and reducing pipe lengths.

Best "cheap" I/Cs I know of are Hybrid tube/fin jobs that are sometimes found on the front of Imprezas. Don't think they're cheap, compare with Jap manufacturers and the likes of Hyperflow etc... (or even Pace etc in the UK).

J.

Thank. It's nice to get some positive feedback, and somebody who actually believes it might make a difference, unlike all those who seem to be having a sexual relationship with either their Forge or Seat Sport intercoolers

Its a Male thing, the bigger the better. :thumbup: but jokes aside. it looks good. Unless your running stupid bhp that FMIC will be up to the job.

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Its a Male thing, the bigger the better. :thumbup: but jokes aside. it looks good. Unless your running stupid bhp that FMIC will be up to the job.

:D haha. bigger = longer to fill = more lag. lag = gay.

Yeah :) I'm not aiming for silly bhp. Probably be aiming for about 225 and 380 or something in the end

that is high bhp!!!

with my fmic, running a standard bumper and no crash bar holes, on a rolling road it was becoming heat soaked!!!

lost 8 bhp over a 10 second run!!

the proof will be in the pudding however

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that is high bhp!!!

with my fmic, running a standard bumper and no crash bar holes, on a rolling road it was becoming heat soaked!!!

lost 8 bhp over a 10 second run!!

the proof will be in the pudding however

This is more of a trial thing to see if it can be done with ease, and well, it can

Im behind you all the way CJS....looks good, and its about a third of the price of a forge/seat sport IC setup.

I really cannot see the side mount giving off as good if not better air temps than the FMIC, yes it has 13 cores instead of 7, but they're closer together meaning less air flow between them, and its also a god awful design as well as being concealed reducing air flow again.

You also have your charge pipe running behind the cooler...not that it makes a great difference, but its still going add to the cooling slightly.

Personally, if people are happy to pay for Seat Sport/Forge IC's then fair play, but to say that a bigger FMIC with less but larger cores wont be as efficient as the standard SMIC is mental....to those people, do you still put cookies out for Santa at xmas too?

Is that the Forge Map sensor pipe you have used?

Also, what size is your intercooler? I have been looking at this mod for some time but never realised you could get a pipe to run behind the intercooler - inspiration!

Is that the Forge Map sensor pipe you have used?

Also, what size is your intercooler? I have been looking at this mod for some time but never realised you could get a pipe to run behind the intercooler - inspiration!

Yup forge map sensor from the ibiza forge seat sport pipes

Acquired from me i think

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Is that the Forge Map sensor pipe you have used?

Also, what size is your intercooler? I have been looking at this mod for some time but never realised you could get a pipe to run behind the intercooler - inspiration!

Yeah it's the forge pipe. Mine's 540x140x70 I think :)

Thanks!

Yup forge map sensor from the ibiza forge seat sport pipes

Acquired from me i think

Yup :)

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Just to update this, i'm still awaiting packages! Grrrr

Looks smart! It should make a difference, especially if your running a map. I think any more than that though it'll struggle. How much is it costing?

Matt

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Looks smart! It should make a difference, especially if your running a map. I think any more than that though it'll struggle. How much is it costing?

Matt

Around £200 in total :)

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when tightening it all up

spray some hair spray on the stainless and let it go slightly tacky then tighten it up, trick of the trade ;)

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when tightening it all up

spray some hair spray on the stainless and let it go slightly tacky then tighten it up, trick of the trade ;)

Will do :) thanks for that

Looking good CJS.

Looking forward to hearing your feedback on the finished article :thumbup:

Quite cheap then. Keep us updated as too how it performs, as said, i`m pretty sceptical that it`ll cope with anything more than a map, but we all want to save pennies and find new ways around things, so good luck, i like how it looks for sure.

Matt

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