I currently have the standard lights, which are ok... but I feel I want to switch to HID's. I dont have the money/want to spend the money for the proper lamps, so I was thinking maybe just get the kit?

How do people rate them?

How easy are they to install?

Where is the best place to buy them?

Thanks,

Damian.

I currently have the standard lights, which are ok... but I feel I want to switch to HID's. I dont have the money/want to spend the money for the proper lamps, so I was thinking maybe just get the kit?

How do people rate them?

How easy are they to install?

Where is the best place to buy them?

Thanks,

Damian.

Hi..... Ebay mate get bi neons (high/low beam) cheap as chips h7 bulbs ive got them on my mk1 octy vrs and my wifes mg-zr.....stuff standard bulbs

I was having a quick google and I think I read that they are illegal. Is this true?

I was having a quick google and I think I read that they are illegal. Is this true?

If thay pass an MOT then your fine.

But some can give the rong beam pattern.

gov.uk

Edited 25 September, 201015 yr by JackDeath

Hmm, I don't want to get it wrong. Apperently I can get HID style bulbs?

I am looking on here but none of it makes sense to me lol.

http://www.powerbulbs.com/bulb_finder.asp?cat1=39&make_id=37&model_id=627&year_id=627&bulb=6

I got my kit from hids-direct.co.uk

Nice and Brite

Nice and easy to fit

Iirc a 2 year warranty

And a new mot today

Your get mixed views mate, but 79.99 delivered for there canbus pro kit

I will sneak my random thought in

You makes your choice

You pays your money

And how many people drive over 30 in a 30 i wonder?

But thats just my thoughts i dont force them on folk

Hmm, I don't want to get it wrong. Apperently I can get HID style bulbs?

I am looking on here but none of it makes sense to me lol.

http://www.powerbulbs.com/bulb_finder.asp?cat1=39&make_id=37&model_id=627&year_id=627&bulb=6

Thay are just bulbs that are a bit brighter then normal ones thay are not HID bulbs.

You need soming like My link

Getting colored bulbs is just a waste imo

Edited 25 September, 201015 yr by JackDeath

Hi!

The Octavia has H4-bulbs. If you substitute just the bulbs with Xenon/HID on original lamps, the light-pattern will be all wrong, and the drivers that meet you on the road will hate you for it!!!

I went for a kit with better gauge wire and relays, to get enough voltage to the bulbs, which helped alot! And now it is even better with Osram NightBreaker bulbs!

But in time I will get L&K lamps. Still ordinary H4, but clear glass and better reflectors (I am told).

Olit-Norway

I was having a quick google and I think I read that they are illegal. Is this true?

Depends how tight your local force are, there was a member on here from somewhere up North that got stopped and got a producer for his HID kit but down here in Kent the police don't seem to be too fussed about them, there's a couple of local members near me with them on and never been stopped.

They are illegal unless an auto light leveller is fitted. The Police are lazy barstewards and dont do a lot, but have a crash and you will find your insurance is invalid and not only will they not pay out, but you will get done for driving without insurance and with an illegally modified car.

Iam new to the forum having only bought my octavia a couple of weeks ago but heres my thoughts.

I had a H7 kit fitted in my previous car (vectra) for 4 years bought from HIDS4U was over £200 at the time but there's lots more companys making them now so prices have come down. Officially you need self levelling headlamps and headlamp washers. My vectra had neither and I had no problems with police or MOT's for 4years. The vectra had the H7 bulb in the open inside the headlight unlike the H4 in my octavia which is covered at the end, this causes lots of glare for other people and meant they were very bright.

I have just fitted a Bi-xenon H4 kit in my 2001 octavia again from HIDS4U and they dont seem as bright but this is only due to the cover over the end of the H4 bulb reducing the glare, they look no different to any cars standard set up so there is no chance of getting pulled for it but my previous car was so bright it was quite obviously an after market kit.

When I was looking most companys who supply the H4 kit only uses one headlamp feed operated by a relay kit conected to the battery, I didn't want this because i felt it looked cheap having wires running all over, the HIDS4U kit was the only H4 kit I found that was plug and play like all the H7 kits out there. Like i said ive only just bought my octavia but it was the first thing I fitted as once you've been driving a car with them you wont go back to halogens!

Mike

This is a perennial favourite on every car forum I've been on.

Let me make clear:

• It is illegal to fit HIDs without the correct lens, self-levelling and washers.
  
• I've lost count of the number of times I've been blinded on my bike by badly-adjusted headlights, the majority of which I think are illegal HID kits.
  
• When you've been blinded when doing the speed limit (I wouldn't go faster than that, officer, but life's too short to go slow) knowing that hitting the kerb or a bollard will result in your instant death (if you're lucky) then you will understand why I want to scream at anyone who raises this subject.
  

Just get the extra-bright bulbs. You know it makes sense.

Ian

Hi again!

I totally agree with Ian the bike-rider!!

Dual H7-lamps, or H7+H1 lamps is a totally different story. There you can use ordinary bulbs on "normal" light, and HID/Xenons on "full". As you will dip to the halogen bulb when you meet another vehicle, no one notices or cares.

If you still chooses HID/Xenons, remember that you will get white light from 4300 Kelvin. 6000 Kelvin is blue(ish), and 8000 Kelvin is blue/purple.. If you have lenses, 6000 Kelvin is said to be the one to have, otherwise go for 4300 K.

Olit - Norway

Edited 26 September, 201015 yr by olit

its just one of those topics that will never have a winner

aslong as they are made, some people will buy them some people wont

some people will obey the speed limit , some people wont

cars will be taxed and some cars wont

some people will pay attention and some people dont

the list could go on

what your supose to do and what you do are often very different thing

the laws my get tougher on things but it takes a while, and with some people it will never change

after all hasnt speeding and drink driving been illegel for years ?

right:thumbup: or wrong

it doesnt stop it being done :no:

And incase people think im out to argue im not, but its true and not just with car topics

for or against whatever you may or may not like, all the ****ing and moaning wont make it stop, it may make it less and it may make it illegel but it wont make it stop :(

when all said and done matey, its just another choice for you to make

http://www.hids-dire...-kit-p-455.html

Again not to sound a current but i got my mot yesterday with this kit

Edited 26 September, 201015 yr by Lloyd55vrs

I'll keep it short. Even bi xenon are illegal if using standard headlights as the beam pattern is wrong and there is nothing to diffuse the brightness.

The only legal way is to fit l&k headlights with the diffuser lenses built in which is what I'll be doing. Strictly speaking they also need high pressure headlight washers but you can get away with that.

I ran a set of 5000k xenons in my last vrs and used to get flashed all the time coz they were too bright. Gets on your nerves after a bit.

Think this should do the trick...

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps

Taking some extracts from it, it does contradict itself...

"In the Department's view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon."

Ok, Great..! - The next sentence, goes onto say....

"If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps."

With regard to self leveling, it does it again and states

"Once fitted to the vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self-levelling (which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension - some expensive estate cars have "self-levelling suspension" and that is adequate). Also the dipped beam must stay on with the main beam."

So, on the whole, it's naughty to fit HID's BULBS to a car with reflector-style headlamps, and that does not have washers and either self-leveling lights or suspension... that being said, my Sorento had 5000k HID's from Hids4U fitted for 3 years; i was never flashed or stopped for it. My wifes car also had 5000k HID's fitted, and no matter what people say, they all passed MOT's and rarely got flashed at...

Hope this helps!

Al.

Edited 27 September, 201015 yr by ukcruiser

Agree with the above

I have read through this statement a few times and any good solicitor would tear it to shreds!

As long as you buy a quality HID kit, and make sure that the beam patterns are correct and declare it to your insurance there should be no problems.

There are also kits out there from HIDS4U that have bulbs specificly for reflector lenses also. I had them in my last car and they were fantastic, perfect beam patterns. Go for 5000k IMO :yes:

The police can choose to enforce it but I get the impression most traffic officers won't bother because if you chose to contest their decision it would be a big waste of police money to take it to court and prove one way or another whether they are illegal or not, and when you see how wooly the DFT wording is, a case like that could go on for months.

This is the Briskoda member who had to remove his. I suppose they can always go on ebay though if you are told to take them off.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/143350-headlights/page__st__20__p__1796683entry1796683

it says.............view not law......

its a view...no case law has been set so its not illegal and stating it is incorrect.

I am still trying to decide which kit to go for, but from personal experience out on the road out of every 100 cars that have HID's that I find a bit bright and blinding 95 of them are the OE Mercedes or BMW (Mercedes being the worst, especially the 4x4's) I have seen a lot of cars running kits that dont cause much issues at all

it says.............view not law......

its a view...no case law has been set so its not illegal and stating it is incorrect.

bang on but if your headlights dazzel then I assume could try and give you a vehicle defect or something.

yes if it dazzles or if it blinds others its not on....however a lot of oe xenons do this anyway to be fair!

This post was repeated last week...all mods should be done properly or not at all...

the op stating did not want to spend a lot of money to do it properly (not that spending lots to get good quality is always a prerequisite), it doesnt help the cause as its comes across as a 'i will fit whats cheapest' regardless of the outcome to others. Which is what the members who state its illegal...want to read so they can flame us for it.

The fact that they state things as law....which are not.......funny they must know somemthing that we dont!

If researched and done properly hid kits can offer a vast improvement in light source without affecting others...

Sadly like previously suggest 'get uprated bulbs' just doesnt work......

If you want to modify your car so that if thing go wrong then you hurt yourself, then I'm fairly relaxed. Risk blinding and killing yourself, that's your choice.

What I object to is that illegal HIDs put other road users' lives at risk. Risk blinding, maiming and killing innocent people, that's wrong.

i can see the best thing for this topic is to be closed

when strong opinions come up it just a matter of time before bitching and arguments start

if you want them get them, if you dont........ well dont

Opinions are great until they get forced on people

yes dazzle sucks but speeding will no doubt claim more lives, so if everyone drove at the limit there will no doubt be less deaths

less but by no means none

If you want to modify your car so that if thing go wrong then you hurt yourself, then I'm fairly relaxed. Risk blinding and killing yourself, that's your choice.

What I object to is that illegal HIDs put other road users' lives at risk. Risk blinding, maiming and killing innocent people, that's wrong.

No one is disagreeing with that, any light upgrades should be done properly or not at all like all mods...you would hope the op would be considerate once fitted and check for glare or if his lights blind others, i am assuming they will.

No one likes being blinded, i also dont like being undertaken by motorbikers on the motorway or by being cut up by people who are too fecking cheap to buy handsfree kits for their phones, am not on here complaining about that though....

It goes without saying....fit the kit properly!