Hi

I'm trying to decide between Nokian winter tyres (as per The Plumber) and Nokian all weather eNtyres on 16" wheels.

I would be interested in hearing of experiences of the latter on the SM, particularly the 1.2 TSI.

I live in the wet but normally mild wintered south west, so I might not need the capability The Plumber has for Yorkshire.

Last winter was exceptional for us, but of course I don't know if or when it will happen again.

Fred (Waiting for red Postman Pat SM)

Hi

I'm trying to decide between Nokian winter tyres (as per The Plumber) and Nokian all weather eNtyres on 16" wheels.

I would be interested in hearing of experiences of the latter on the SM, particularly the 1.2 TSI.

I live in the wet but normally mild wintered south west, so I might not need the capability The Plumber has for Yorkshire.

Last winter was exceptional for us, but of course I don't know if or when it will happen again.

Fred (Waiting for red Postman Pat SM)

If they are OK in the North East, they should be great in the South West.

Edited 28 September, 201015 yr by Ray_Green

I believe the Plumber is considering the Nokian eNtyres for summer boots. He already has winter wheels and tyres.

My personal take on this is that the eNtyrs would be OK as all year tyres in the Southern UK, but if you are considering them as winter only, then a more dedicated winter tyre would be better.

If I step up on the soapbox: It's the wet performance that really counts - for both summer and winter.

I believe the Plumber is considering the Nokian eNtyres for summer boots. He already has winter wheels and tyres.

My personal take on this is that the eNtyrs would be OK as all year tyres in the Southern UK, but if you are considering them as winter only, then a more dedicated winter tyre would be better.

If I step up on the soapbox: It's the wet performance that really counts - for both summer and winter.

Hi Agerbundsen,

spot on as usual looking at eNtyre fitted to the Dolomites for use between April and November with Nokian WR G2 for the 'deep' winter periods due to the hills round here.

Considering the eNtyre to replace the Googyear's when (if ever, there long lasting :S ) they wear out. From the manufactures blurb and my experience with the WR G2's then these tyres might suit the weather conditions around here more than a summer sports tyre. Only way to find out will be to give them a try.

Did consider the Goodyear 4Season but that appear to have a stronger winter bias (have the winter snowflake symbol).

Probably the Nokians would suit for an all year tyre in some of the more southern counties that don't have steep hills and surprise isolated snow blizzards.

Regards,

TP

I am going to have a think about new summer rubber soon. There is about 17000 km on the original Conti's and this week and next, Snehvide will take a trip which includes her birthplace country, but probably not the town. She will do about 5000 km in a week or two, so there will not be much left when we are back.

Any experience or thoughts on the wet weather performance of the Nokian eNtyre?

Obviously the makers claim its good - but I haven't come across any comparative tests with other wet weather tyres.

My winter driving is mostly on cold wet roads or slush or shallow snow and ice.

We do have hills, but not many as steep as 1in 4!

(If its 6ft of snow this winter I'll regret that statement!)

If I step up on the soapbox: It's the wet performance that really counts - for both summer and winter.

Hi Agerbundsen

Cold wet weather with shallow snow/slush, perhaps frozen, is what I'm trying to make sure we can cope with, and the reason for looking at the eNtyre was that it would seem to be capable of this and of running in warmer weather so avoiding the need for frequent change overs. However wet performance is the key characteristic and I'm wondering if you know of any tests that compare the wet weather performance of the eNtyre with other cold weather tyres?

With us both being retired if we get heavy snow we just stay put and walk to the corner shop for milk and bread!

Fred

Just found my first 'owners forum' reviews of the entyre. Lack a bit of detail but a start.

My link

My link

My link

TP

Edited 10 October, 201015 yr by The Plumber

Hi Agerbundsen

Cold wet weather with shallow snow/slush, perhaps frozen, is what I'm trying to make sure we can cope with, and the reason for looking at the eNtyre was that it would seem to be capable of this and of running in warmer weather so avoiding the need for frequent change overs. However wet performance is the key characteristic and I'm wondering if you know of any tests that compare the wet weather performance of the eNtyre with other cold weather tyres?

With us both being retired if we get heavy snow we just stay put and walk to the corner shop for milk and bread!

Fred

Hi Fred,

I have been looking for comparisons between winter and summer tyres for some time now - without success. many rate both types and all season tyres, but I have not found any that compares the winter and summer tyres in wet conditions - warm or cold.

..and while at the corner store, I suppose you might as well walk across the street to the pub for a quick pint?

Still debating whether to be an eNTYRE guinea-pig when the Dunlops come up for replacement in the next month or so.

By the way, does anyone understand, the US mileage ratings? As the Yeti's tyres will have lasted about 15,000 miles and the XF's were shot in a little over 10,000, the concept of tread life over 100,000 miles (mentioned in TP's links) is a bit alien and I would expect some serious compromises in other areas. Or is this figure based on driving at 20mph in a straight line on velvet? And the US treadwear index gives 280 for the Dunlop SP Sport 01, 700 for the eNTYRE and 220 for the Pirelli P Zero. At least the latter figure would be consistent with how the Dunlops are doing on the XF compared with the original Pirellis. But does that mean I can expect 37,500 miles out of the Nokians on the Yeti?

Mark

Edited 10 October, 201015 yr by mbrock

By the way, does anyone understand, the US mileage ratings? Mark

Not entyrely (sic), but some anecdotal information:

My daughter had a B 2000 Mazda/Ford mini pick-up 4WD when the Firestone tyres were recalled - she got a complete new set of tyres free - the old ones had 100,000 miles on them and no problems. In many years of driving in the USA, I would normally expect between 40,000 and 50,000 miles on a set of tyres.

I can only surmize that the very different driving style there had an influence - mostly straight roads and a very relaxed driving style copmpared to most European conditions.

I do not know what the original thread depth on the current Conti tyres were, but after 19,000 km (12,000 miles) there is 6 mm left on the fronts and 5 mm on the rear tyres. They were just switched front to back. Assuming something like 8 mm original depth, I would expect they will last another 19,000 km before they are down to 3 mm both and need replacement. There is quite a bit of high speed mileage on the Autobahn included, so around 40,000 km per set is not unreasonable.

Edited 11 October, 201015 yr by Agerbundsen

Hi Fred,

..and while at the corner store, I suppose you might as well walk across the street to the pub for a quick pint?

They have demolished our pub, so no temptation there, and closed our post office - feels like a village, which it was once, before urban sprawl surounded us replacing the cows in the fields. :(

Hi

I'm trying to decide between Nokian winter tyres (as per The Plumber) and Nokian all weather eNtyres on 16" wheels.

I would be interested in hearing of experiences of the latter on the SM, particularly the 1.2 TSI.

I live in the wet but normally mild wintered south west, so I might not need the capability The Plumber has for Yorkshire.

Last winter was exceptional for us, but of course I don't know if or when it will happen again.

Fred (Waiting for red Postman Pat SM)

Trouble is, and im a bit like you we live on the somerset levels but the last 2 winters have seen me have to take 6 days holiday I didnt want to take because I couldnt get my car out due to snow, and I have to say the predictions for this year are even worse than last year (by the people who actually got it right last yr), so my question is what sort of 16" wheels can you get that are still nice looking on the car and not just to have to shove on a pair of basic steels ? I was also thinking about the Dunlop Winter 3 Tyres as a winter tyre as they seem to do well in rainy slushy conditions ?

Trouble is, and im a bit like you we live on the somerset levels but the last 2 winters have seen me have to take 6 days holiday I didnt want to take because I couldnt get my car out due to snow, and I have to say the predictions for this year are even worse than last year (by the people who actually got it right last yr), so my question is what sort of 16" wheels can you get that are still nice looking on the car and not just to have to shove on a pair of basic steels ? I was also thinking about the Dunlop Winter 3 Tyres as a winter tyre as they seem to do well in rainy slushy conditions ?

RIF trims on steel wheels like The Plumber? (standard on Yeti E)

I'm buying Continental wintercontact TS810 215/60 R16 99H tyres. My wheels are ready to collect now. just need somewhere to store them.

Mike

RIF trims on steel wheels like The Plumber? (standard on Yeti E)

I'm buying Continental wintercontact TS810 215/60 R16 99H tyres. My wheels are ready to collect now. just need somewhere to store them.

Mike

I was thinking of the continental winter TS 380P's - are yours slightly different ?

I was thinking of the continental winter TS 380P's - are yours slightly different ?

That's what I was after as well. Mytyres keep putting the price up so I tried my local tyre supplier. They quoted me £112 fitted each which is about £120 ish less than Mytyres fitted for 4 so I ordered them.

What then happened is that the TS 810's turned up as they couldn't get hold of the 830's. They are an older design from 2006 I think. Still appear to be ok, but probably not as good as the TS830p by using the 810's I'll save some money.

The TS 830P is a high performance tyre. Not quite sure our's fit that category. Check out the continental website for more info. On iPhone at moment otherwise would post link.

Mike