On face value to the uninitiated, the 1.2 TSi appears to be little small for hauling the Yeti's not inconsiderable bulk around. According to this forum's engine poll it is by far the most popular unit especially when the DSG option is included. For whatever reasons this engine has been chosen by buyers, be it price, economy or refinement etc., how are longer term owners finding it now that the mileage is accruing? All is very positive from test drives and early ownership days but how about in the longer term?

Bassa

The engine hasnt been around in the Skoda cars for very long, VW's have had this longer, so it will be difficult to asses the long term reliability.

I think we really need to have had the engines running for at least 18 months to see how they stack up, & to gauge warranty claims.

My son was thinking about a MKII fabia vRS, but given the short time this configuration of engine has been around, its a bit of hesitation in waiting to see how this configuration pans out.

Given that VW have had these engines in their cars longer, any real valuable info would probably be better gained from looking at the VW forums to see what they say.

That would be my overall worry with the 1.2 in a car as heavy as the Yeti. Initial reports on performance seem good but how will a relatively small engine cope over time. Having said that, the engine will of course be put through the vigorous testing procedures and should be proven to do 150,000+ miles reliably like any other VW group engine.

Bassa

The engine hasnt been around in the Skoda cars for very long, VW's have had this longer, so it will be difficult to asses the long term reliability.

I think we really need to have had the engines running for at least 18 months to see how they stack up, & to gauge warranty claims.

My son was thinking about a MKII fabia vRS, but given the short time this configuration of engine has been around, its a bit of hesitation in waiting to see how this configuration pans out.

Given that VW have had these engines in their cars longer, any real valuable info would probably be better gained from looking at the VW forums to see what they say.

It is not so much long term reliability I'm thinking of but customer satifaction regarding a small engine in a fairly heavy car. Apart from the Octavia and possibly the Golf, it makes its appearance in smaller and lighter vehicles such as Fabia, Polo & Ibiza.

Some Yeti owners must have had this unit for several months now and it their findings I'd like to know of.

It is not so much long term reliability I'm thinking of but customer satifaction regarding a small engine in a fairly heavy car. Apart from the Octavia and possibly the Golf, it makes its appearance in smaller and lighter vehicles such as Fabia, Polo & Ibiza.

Some Yeti owners must have had this unit for several months now and it their findings I'd like to know of.

That wouldnt worry me. As long as I realised it wasnt going to be 'fast' and my expectations were realistic Id probably be happy with it. All these low capacity engines with turbos have a nice torque advantage over their normally aspirated equivalents and that makes the driving experience so much nicer imo.

Bassa

The engine hasnt been around in the Skoda cars for very long, VW's have had this longer, so it will be difficult to asses the long term reliability.

I think we really need to have had the engines running for at least 18 months to see how they stack up, & to gauge warranty claims.

My son was thinking about a MKII fabia vRS, but given the short time this configuration of engine has been around, its a bit of hesitation in waiting to see how this configuration pans out.

Given that VW have had these engines in their cars longer, any real valuable info would probably be better gained from looking at the VW forums to see what they say.

The 1.2TSI was first fitted to the Yeti then latter to other VAG products. The engine is built by Skoda and possibly designed by them It's not the same as the 1.4TSI. The 1.2 has 8 valves and also fairly unique in having a electrically actuated turbo wastegate, further unlike some versions of the 1.4 theres no supercharger either.

Regards,

TP

I have done nearly 6k miles on mine and when it was running in 2-3k when the engine was really tight, it doesn't feel great, however now after another 4k miles, it is really smooth and free revving, the engine is much more refine than any 1.6 VW I have driven. Performance wise, it felt a little like a diesel, a lot of torque, however the official mpg might be a little optimistic for the extra-urban cycle. In town driving, I regularly get 38 to 40 mpg, however on a motorway, I have only been able to achieve 40 to 42 at 70mph.

My wife loves hers.

It's quick enough once you allow for the DSG, which needs a second to drop the clutch when you want to go.

It's generally used for pottering about the villages.

The only time the 1.2 seems to suffer on performance is at motorway speeds.

It will accelerate happily up to 70mph+, but you can't get a brisk burst of acceleration at, say, 60mph to get out into a faster moving lane to pass a lorry.

But then if you do a lot of motorway driving would you go for a 1.2 Yeti? Possibly not.

The rest of the time it's got more than enough power. It's a family car, not a boy racer's car.

One thing has surprised me. It's not very fuel efficient. Maybe that will get better as the engine loosens up. Two and a half months on we've only done 600 miles.

If it did a lot of miles I'd be thinking we should have got a diesel...

...It's generally used for pottering about the villages.

...One thing has surprised me. It's not very fuel efficient.

...If it did a lot of miles I'd be thinking we should have got a diesel...

But diesels are not very efficient over relatively short journeys either. As a first-time diesel (170) owner, I've been a little surprised at how poor the fuel consumption is over the first 5-10 miles of any trip, presumably because of the substantially longer time that the diesel takes to warm up. There's an interesting graph on p191 of the Yeti manual that illustrates this point, although it's making the general point that short journeys give poor fuel consumption and it doesn't seem to distinguish between petrol and diesel.

Over a 5-10 mile trip I'd personally be surprised if there was much difference either way in petrol vs diesel fuel cosnumption.

I have done nearly 6k miles on mine and when it was running in 2-3k when the engine was really tight, it doesn't feel great, however now after another 4k miles, it is really smooth and free revving, the engine is much more refine than any 1.6 VW I have driven. Performance wise, it felt a little like a diesel, a lot of torque, however the official mpg might be a little optimistic for the extra-urban cycle. In town driving, I regularly get 38 to 40 mpg, however on a motorway, I have only been able to achieve 40 to 42 at 70mph.

Thanks, that's the type feed back I'm seeking, owners opinions after a few thousand on the clock. It is all too easy finding positives on test drives & very early ownership days but sometimes that gloss can rub off - hopefully not so with the 1.2TSi Yeti. After all it is probably the heaviest car that this engine appears in.

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Thanks, that's the type feed back I'm seeking, owners opinions after a few thousand on the clock. It is all too easy finding positives on test drives & very early ownership days but sometimes that gloss can rub off - hopefully not so with the 1.2TSi Yeti. After all it is probably the heaviest car that this engine appears in.

At the moment it is - its due to appear in the Octavia, Jetta and Passatt from what I have read in most car mags so would expect those to have weight issues if it does!

At the moment it is - its due to appear in the Octavia, Jetta and Passatt from what I have read in most car mags so would expect those to have weight issues if it does!

It's available in the Octavia up to SE and also will be available in the Jetta. Thought the new Passat range started with the 1.4TSi though ? If it does go into the latter, surely that would take the 1.2TSi heavyweight title away from the SM.

On face value to the uninitiated, the 1.2 TSi appears to be little small for hauling the Yeti's not inconsiderable bulk around. According to this forum's engine poll it is by far the most popular unit especially when the DSG option is included. For whatever reasons this engine has been chosen by buyers, be it price, economy or refinement etc., how are longer term owners finding it now that the mileage is accruing? All is very positive from test drives and early ownership days but how about in the longer term?

To be honest I think it is little short of sensational, of course it depends on your driving style and you really need to try it out to make sure it suits you. There's bags of low down torque and I've had no difficulty in keeping up with traffic even with the DSG gearbox changing up around 2,000 revs. Most of my friends who have high-end Volvos and Audis have been extremely impressed with the engine's performance. On balance I'm not sure I'd even be tempted by 1.4 as I find the 1.2 suits the car perfectly.

To be honest I think it is little short of sensational, of course it depends on your driving style and you really need to try it out to make sure it suits you. There's bags of low down torque and I've had no difficulty in keeping up with traffic even with the DSG gearbox changing up around 2,000 revs. Most of my friends who have high-end Volvos and Audis have been extremely impressed with the engine's performance. On balance I'm not sure I'd even be tempted by 1.4 as I find the 1.2 suits the car perfectly.

I suppose the point to bear in mind is that it is equivalent to a normally aspirated 1.6 but with far better low & mid range torque. Lower emissions and better mpg ( if the figures are to be believed ) only add to its appeal. Daft thing is a 1.6 in the Yeti, albeit normally aspirated, would probably never be questioned on its power to weight ratio.

Obviously your enthusiasm for it has not waned, how many miles has it done?

I have done 5,000 miles in my 1.2 DSG and it is a great engine, and I rate it highly(and I come from a background of Audi/BMW).

I have never found it wanting and it is a very good long distance motorway cruiser- extremely refined and, certainly with the DSG, seems sufficently torquey that fast motrway driving is never a chore.

I'd have no qualms about long term durability- I'm sure VW have done their homework and it will last.

The engine does take a while to become loose- and in the early days the fuel consumption when driving at motorway speeds was poor, though this has got better and now at 70 mph it does 40-42 mpg, which is fine by me. Go beyond 70 mph though, and it does start to get more thirsty however.

If I had a choice again bewteen the 1.2 and the 1.4, I'd still go for the 1.2. I can't think of any area where a 1.4 would make the car any better.

I've done 12000 miles in mine now and absolutely love the engine, the fuel consumption is about 33 mpg ish but it is fun to drive with the engine perfectly adequate at the British speed limits and lovely and smooth even above them. I find the DSG can get caught out when around town as it seems to go into the highest gear possible as soon as possible, At motorway speeds I find kickdown only produces relatively sedate acceleration for overtaking but it isn't anything dangerous and the Yeti's relative quietness makes it seem as if it is going slower than it is anyway. As for power I am not exactly small and it can deal with 4 large adults easily enough even dealing easily with the steep hills around my place fully loaded. This engine will pull happily from a few thousand revs and I have noticed very little loss in torque after coming from a diesel.

Hope this is of help and not rambling too much

Mark

I've done 12000 miles in mine now and absolutely love the engine, the fuel consumption is about 33 mpg ish but it is fun to drive with the engine perfectly adequate at the British speed limits and lovely and smooth even above them. I find the DSG can get caught out when around town as it seems to go into the highest gear possible as soon as possible, At motorway speeds I find kickdown only produces relatively sedate acceleration for overtaking but it isn't anything dangerous and the Yeti's relative quietness makes it seem as if it is going slower than it is anyway. As for power I am not exactly small and it can deal with 4 large adults easily enough even dealing easily with the steep hills around my place fully loaded. This engine will pull happily from a few thousand revs and I have noticed very little loss in torque after coming from a diesel.

Hope this is of help and not rambling too much

Mark

Thanks Mark, that's very helpful - plus its what I wanted to hear.

The 1.2TSI was first fitted to the Yeti then latter to other VAG products. The engine is built by Skoda and possibly designed by them It's not the same as the 1.4TSI. The 1.2 has 8 valves and also fairly unique in having a electrically actuated turbo wastegate, further unlike some versions of the 1.4 theres no supercharger either.

Regards,

TP

Not doubting your knowledge for a second, Tim, but the top of our engine block is stamped "VW", does this mean that the head is made by VW and used with the Skoda bottom half? Just wondering, still amazed by it's performance. Tony

Not doubting your knowledge for a second, Tim, but the top of our engine block is stamped "VW", does this mean that the head is made by VW and used with the Skoda bottom half? Just wondering, still amazed by it's performance. Tony

I understood it as being one of the few engines built by skoda but still used throughout the group.

Not doubting your knowledge for a second, Tim, but the top of our engine block is stamped "VW", does this mean that the head is made by VW and used with the Skoda bottom half? Just wondering, still amazed by it's performance. Tony

Hi Tony,

most components that are used throughout the various brands of the VAG empire tend to used the VW and or Audi logo as a matter of course. Parts that a brand specific like body and trim panels, will more likely as not use the brand logo.

This My link is an overview of what Skoda do from their web site. Slightly out of date as the Octavia Tour mentioned has recently ceased production.

Hope that helps.

TP

I suppose the point to bear in mind is that it is equivalent to a normally aspirated 1.6 but with far better low & mid range torque. Lower emissions and better mpg ( if the figures are to be believed ) only add to its appeal. Daft thing is a 1.6 in the Yeti, albeit normally aspirated, would probably never be questioned on its power to weight ratio.

Obviously your enthusiasm for it has not waned, how many miles has it done?

I've had the car for 10 weeks and only done 1,200 miles so it isn't fully run-in yet. That said the engine has felt strong and refined from day one. The low down torque gives the impression of a much larger engine and its power limitations are only really exposed if you try to drive it very hard. One concern I had with running-in was that under normal conditions with the DSG gearbox the car seldom reaches the mid and high rev ranges. What I've started to do is select 'S' mode and drive it a bit harder to occasionally get the revs up. My last car had a 2.3 V6 supercharged engine but it's not been hard to adjust to the Yeti. It is no exaggeration to say there isn't another car in the world I'd swap the Yeti for!

Hi Tony,

most components that are used throughout the various brands of the VAG empire tend to used the VW and or Audi logo as a matter of course. Parts that a brand specific like body and trim panels, will more likely as not use the brand logo.

This My link is an overview of what Skoda do from their web site. Slightly out of date as the Octavia Tour mentioned has recently ceased production.

Hope that helps.

TP

Thanks Tim, very interesting, hadn't seen that site, makes sense now. regards Tony

im 5000 miles in and i can honestly say its a cracker of and engine,..plenty of grunt( defo as fast as my last car ford focus 1.6)..mpg is good, always over 40mpg..have seen mid 50's on long runs....only downside ive had is high oil consumption, which is still been investigated'..but im loving it , defo have no worries about the weight v performance/engine theory

Hi Bassa

I 've had my 1.2tsi for few months now still only couple thou on clock but the engine has really loosened up in the last 500mls.

Like one of the other members who replied I too have a long background of Audis mainly diesels 110bhp and 130bhp models .

As I mentioned in a earlier post the test drive convinced me to go for this model and nothing has changed my opinion since, the economy is good anything between 38mpg and a best of 44mpg on a run and the engine is lively enough for sensible overtaking .

Even though mine is only a S Model I find the all round cabin quality excellent and quite on par with all my previously owned cars of any make.

The ride is good and handling top class. ( its a joy to get away from low profiles)

Believe me I'm a born whinger and hard to please but as yet I've found absolutely no faults .

Hope this helps

7029bob

When, 7 years ago, I was going to decide for a 307 I was in doubt if to go for a 2.0 or a 1.6 (petrol). I went for the 1.6 for economy: then I was happy about the choice. In very rare situations I had to go over 4000 rpm (the max torque was at that speed), the 2.0 would have been oversized for me, as the 1.6 was never used at its limit. One could say: "if I have to overcome very quickly the more power I have the more sure I am". This is indeed true, but the gain in time is sensible only if the power is very very higher: differences in 10-15% in power/torque are quite not noticeable (so the difference between e.g. a 1.2 and 1.4 cannot be abyssal, in my opinion). If the gain in a 0.1 sec. while ovecoming is not vital, there is no need to discard the 1.2. Personally, I am more than happy with the 1.2, because I note it is not necessary to stress it for usual situations. On motorways over 110 km/h it is not fast in accelerating (but we have very often this speed limit); I think that may happen that an overcoming could be postponed (most of the time this is not dramatic, but depends on the driver's philosophy). This for me is unfrequent, but what I am sure is that at every motor axle rotation the fuel has to fill only 1.2 liters (particularly, when still and at idle, when turbo does not work...).

Summing up, IMO: if you have a bigger motor you can exploit it sometimes, but most of the times it is useless (of course, for users not desidering always to reach the redline).

Bye,

R.