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Well it was a long time coming round, seems ages ago that I placed my order and I must say that I like the car, although I don't think it is as comfortable as the old model. The seats seem to be further in towards the centre of the car and harder to get in and and out of the car as a result. Has anybody else noticed this?

The colour is nice, Amethyist Purple and the auto box is nice and smooth.

The rear bumper has been bumped in the garage and damaged, they are aware of this and will be booking it in soon for repair, but sadly on my home another driver thought their car was far wider then it was managed to clip my drivers mirror, smashed the indictor lens on it, and the best bit is that they did not even stop to see what damage they did to their own car, probably weren't insured I guess.

Right, I now have a question about the bluetooth phone setup, does anyone know if the bluetooth can automatically disconnect from the phone and hand back the call to the phone itself? It seems that you have to hang up the call and then make the call again if you wish to continue the call outside the car?

I have looked at all the various menu options but there does seem to be anything at all that suggests it can do this. The phone in question is a Blackberry 8520 and when I had it se up in my old Superb I used it with a Blackerry bluetooth visor adaptor which worked perfectly in transfering a call to and from the bluetooth system.

I might post some photos of the car if I get a good day to take some on.

Thanks for reading.

Sorry to hear about your 'knocks'. Hope they get sorted for you.

The phone call comes into your phone, not the bluetooth. Therefore, (using my Samsung Tocco as a reference) once you turn off the ignition the bluetooth is disconnected but the call remains on your phone and comes through your phones speaker as normal.

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During the call I think you press the right hand roller switch inwards and it brings up a menu that allows the call to be transferred to the handset. I think its called privacy or something like that, there is also another setting that allows you to mute the handsfree microphone and is not to be confused with the privacy setting. Not sure if this is generic or handset specific, I connect with an iPhone 3GS.

Really sorry to hear about the damage to your brand new car emoticon-0149-no.gif

I found the seat on my Superb to be a tad uncomfortable to stat with but its getting better as the miles rack up.

Appear both of us had a knock on our way home. Sorry to hear you weren't as luck as I was.

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Sorry to hear about your 'knocks'. Hope they get sorted for you.

The phone call comes into your phone, not the bluetooth. Therefore, (using my Samsung Tocco as a reference) once you turn off the ignition the bluetooth is disconnected but the call remains on your phone and comes through your phones speaker as normal.

Thanks for the reply, what you said is just what I would have expected, but sadly not so. It seems that if you are engaged in a call then you can switch off the ingition and remove the key altogether but the bluetooth interface of the radio hangs on to the call and the only way to transfer the call is to cancel the call and then redial the number from the handset.

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During the call I think you press the right hand roller switch inwards and it brings up a menu that allows the call to be transferred to the handset. I think its called privacy or something like that, there is also another setting that allows you to mute the handsfree microphone and is not to be confused with the privacy setting. Not sure if this is generic or handset specific, I connect with an iPhone 3GS.

Really sorry to hear about the damage to your brand new car emoticon-0149-no.gif

I found the seat on my Superb to be a tad uncomfortable to stat with but its getting better as the miles rack up.

Thanks for the suggestion, bad on my setup the only option I have to is to end the call or mute the microphone and yet it does automatically connect to the car radio when swtiching the ignition on, strange that it should be able to do it one way and not the other. I guess this a Blackberry fault and I shall be attemting to get a resolution from them but I'm not holding out much hope on this, they don't seem to be very helpful at all.

Thanks for the reply, what you said is just what I would have expected, but sadly not so. It seems that if you are engaged in a call then you can switch off the ingition and remove the key altogether but the bluetooth interface of the radio hangs on to the call and the only way to transfer the call is to cancel the call and then redial the number from the handset.

What handset do you have? All the phones I've had in the least few years allow you to transfer the call from a handsfree to the phone (that's Nokias, Windows Mobile phones, iPhone and HTC desire)

Thanks for the suggestion, bad on my setup the only option I have to is to end the call or mute the microphone and yet it does automatically connect to the car radio when swtiching the ignition on, strange that it should be able to do it one way and not the other. I guess this a Blackberry fault and I shall be attemting to get a resolution from them but I'm not holding out much hope on this, they don't seem to be very helpful at all.

Hi I use a Blackberry although not yet with the Superb as still waiting !

But on my Honda CRV to pick up the phone when its connected to the car i press the Roller Ball ( yes its an older 8310) and press the option for "activate handset" this returns call to phone,likewise when i want to pass it back to the car it says "activate Honda HFT" on the screen

cheers Andy

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What handset do you have? All the phones I've had in the least few years allow you to transfer the call from a handsfree to the phone (that's Nokias, Windows Mobile phones, iPhone and HTC desire)

Hi I have the Blackberry 8520, not from choice. It is a company wide standard issue otherwise I would chosen one from the approved list for the Superb.

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Hi I use a Blackberry although not yet with the Superb as still waiting !

But on my Honda CRV to pick up the phone when its connected to the car i press the Roller Ball ( yes its an older 8310) and press the option for "activate handset" this returns call to phone,likewise when i want to pass it back to the car it says "activate Honda HFT" on the screen

cheers Andy

Hi Andy, sadly it seems that no Blackberrys are fully compatible and Skoda do not list any Blackberrys in their approved phones. It does seem however that most of the Nokia's are, including older Nokia 6230i phones which used to be the company phone that we were issued with, sadly it is the Blackberry that we have to use now. That said it does however work perfectly apart from it will not allow the call to be dropped back to the handset so you either have to complete the call or, drop the connection, switch off the columbus radio and then redial on the handset.

So there is a chance that your Blackberry might work in the same fashion as mine.

Graham

Hi I have the Blackberry 8520, not from choice. It is a company wide standard issue otherwise I would chosen one from the approved list for the Superb.

Hi Andy, sadly it seems that no Blackberrys are fully compatible and Skoda do not list any Blackberrys in their approved phones. It does seem however that most of the Nokia's are, including older Nokia 6230i phones which used to be the company phone that we were issued with, sadly it is the Blackberry that we have to use now. That said it does however work perfectly apart from it will not allow the call to be dropped back to the handset so you either have to complete the call or, drop the connection, switch off the columbus radio and then redial on the handset.

So there is a chance that your Blackberry might work in the same fashion as mine.

Graham

This is actually making sense now. The Skoda kit uses rSAP which means that the car is the phone and the bluetooth is for accessing the SIM in the phone. Therefore, you can't move the call between the phone and the handsfree kit as you'd be changing the active device on the GSM network.

When using the handsfree bluetooth profile you can swap between handsfree device and phone because the device making the connection to the GSM network isn't changing, it's only the audio that has to be redirected.

I don't have the Skoda handsfree as I knew it used rSAP when I bought my car and the iPhone doesn't support that (nor does the HTC Desire I replaced it with) so I can swap between the handsfree kit and the phone at will.

Is yours one of the newer Skoda handsfree kits that supports the handsfree profile as well as rsap? If so, you could disable rsap on your phone and just use it as a normal handsfree device although the reception may not be as good as when using rsap.

Also, the Skoda list of phones is about as much use as a chocolate fireguard, when I bought my car it listed several Sony Ericsson phones which didn't support the rsap protocol so would never have worked with the original GSM III Premium kit...

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This is actually making sense now. The Skoda kit uses rSAP which means that the car is the phone and the bluetooth is for accessing the SIM in the phone. Therefore, you can't move the call between the phone and the handsfree kit as you'd be changing the active device on the GSM network.

When using the handsfree bluetooth profile you can swap between handsfree device and phone because the device making the connection to the GSM network isn't changing, it's only the audio that has to be redirected.

I don't have the Skoda handsfree as I knew it used rSAP when I bought my car and the iPhone doesn't support that (nor does the HTC Desire I replaced it with) so I can swap between the handsfree kit and the phone at will.

Is yours one of the newer Skoda handsfree kits that supports the handsfree profile as well as rsap? If so, you could disable rsap on your phone and just use it as a normal handsfree device although the reception may not be as good as when using rsap.

Also, the Skoda list of phones is about as much use as a chocolate fireguard, when I bought my car it listed several Sony Ericsson phones which didn't support the rsap protocol so would never have worked with the original GSM III Premium kit...

I have a couple of old Nokia phones so I tried them out last night, first up was a 6230i which worked in exactly the same way as the Blackberry, second up was an old 6310i which works perfectly apart from the SMS which does not work at all with the Columbus but it does hand over the call when the ignition is switched off. I think that this is an area that Skoda need to pay attention to as many of these cars will be company cars and as such must expect that there will a very high phone useage in them for business purposes. It is so unproffesional having to tell people on the phone that you will have hang up and then call them back in order to exit the car.

I have a couple of old Nokia phones so I tried them out last night, first up was a 6230i which worked in exactly the same way as the Blackberry, second up was an old 6310i which works perfectly apart from the SMS which does not work at all with the Columbus but it does hand over the call when the ignition is switched off. I think that this is an area that Skoda need to pay attention to as many of these cars will be company cars and as such must expect that there will a very high phone useage in them for business purposes. It is so unproffesional having to tell people on the phone that you will have hang up and then call them back in order to exit the car.

I bet the 6310i was using the handsfree profile and the others using rsap. If you disable rsap on the other phones then you'll be able to swap the call between the car and the handset, but will lose the better reception that rsap provides...

Technically, rsap is a superior solution, but you've found one of it's biggest problems...

Is it possible to pair phones using reap, but then use BT headset if privacy needed? I understand that after reap connection, phone is just SIM provider, and Skoda becomes 'headset', does that headset has ability to connect to another BT... For example I like idea of having displayed who is calling on dashboard, but if kids are sleeping in the back, I would rather transfer call to BT headset.

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I bet the 6310i was using the handsfree profile and the others using rsap. If you disable rsap on the other phones then you'll be able to swap the call between the car and the handset, but will lose the better reception that rsap provides...

Technically, rsap is a superior solution, but you've found one of it's biggest problems...

I have looked at the Blackberry setup routine and I can't see any option to disable the rSAP so I guess that unless someone knows how to disable it on a Blackberry Curve 8520, stuck with the problem until the company decide to upgrade the phones again and then hope that new phone will be suitable?

I have looked at the Blackberry setup routine and I can't see any option to disable the rSAP so I guess that unless someone knows how to disable it on a Blackberry Curve 8520, stuck with the problem until the company decide to upgrade the phones again and then hope that new phone will be suitable?

Blackberry call it SIM access, if you go into the bluetooth settings and deselect this profile you can repair the blackberry ewith the car and it should use the handsfree profile instead

Sorry to hear about your 'knocks'. Hope they get sorted for you.

The phone call comes into your phone, not the bluetooth. Therefore, (using my Samsung Tocco as a reference) once you turn off the ignition the bluetooth is disconnected but the call remains on your phone and comes through your phones speaker as normal.

Hi,

I'm fascinated to hear that you have got your Samsung Tocco up & running - Please spare the time to explain how you succeeded....

tdm.

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Blackberry call it SIM access, if you go into the bluetooth settings and deselect this profile you can repair the blackberry ewith the car and it should use the handsfree profile instead

Thanks, I'll try this as soon as I get my car back. It is currently having a new bumper fitted following the accident it sustained in the dealers before I took delivery. I'll report back on the results.

Blackberry Torch (9800) is working with 2010 (rSAP only) Bluetooth in April built 2010 estate.

Blackberry Bold (9700) reportedly works well also.

It does hick-up every few weeks, and need's to be re-started, but that's a small price to pay - others have reported the same issue, and the same fix of re-starting the handset.

Al.

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Blackberry call it SIM access, if you go into the bluetooth settings and deselect this profile you can repair the blackberry ewith the car and it should use the handsfree profile instead

Followed the instructions and it works, just as a phone, no longer supports SMS messages but that is a good thing in my book, Thanks for the info.

Followed the instructions and it works, just as a phone, no longer supports SMS messages but that is a good thing in my book, Thanks for the info.

No problem, glad I could actually help someone for a change emoticon-0102-bigsmile.gif

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