Hi Everyone

I am looking to purchase a Greenline SE but started to get worried about all the comments about Diesel Particle Filters [DPF] on the web for virtually every make of car.

I do not see really what the problem is. From how I see it even if you do short journeys if the light comes on as long as you drive above 2000 RPM and let the DPF heat up and continue until the light goes off there should be no problem. Is the problem basically because Customers were not informed about the methods for active regeneration?

If I do not order a Greenline I thought of the 1.2 TSI but I cannot find any definite results of what the real average fuel consumption is?

Can any of you experts help me as the Greenline would suit me perfectly if I am correct about the DPF.

Thanks

Hi Everyone

I am looking to purchase a Greenline SE but started to get worried about all the comments about Diesel Particle Filters [DPF] on the web for virtually every make of car.

I do not see really what the problem is. From how I see it even if you do short journeys if the light comes on as long as you drive above 2000 RPM and let the DPF heat up and continue until the light goes off there should be no problem. Is the problem basically because Customers were not informed about the methods for active regeneration?

If I do not order a Greenline I thought of the 1.2 TSI but I cannot find any definite results of what the real average fuel consumption is?

Can any of you experts help me as the Greenline would suit me perfectly if I am correct about the DPF.

Thanks

I'm a CR140 diesel owner. I drive around London all the time. I'm not worried about the DPF issue. I think it is blown out of all proportion. I know of nobody yet who has an issue with the CR engines, but I stand to be corrected.

The 1.2tsi is ok on fuel, but not as good as the greenline. Depends on what you want to use the car for....

Mike

I think maybe a Greenline is the way to go, unless you are especially adverse to buying a diesel car? The 1.6CR in the Fabia and Octavia work very well so it should be very nice in the Yeti too.

+1 Rockhopper. In the real world I think Autocar are only getting about 32 MPG from their 1.2 . However what is the difference in purchase cost new? (James ? ) . Quite a lot I'll bet, and that will buy an awful lot of fuel . :yes:

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+1 Rockhopper. In the real world I think Autocar are only getting about 32 MPG from their 1.2 . However what is the difference in purchase cost new? (James ? ) . Quite a lot I'll bet, and that will buy an awful lot of fuel . :yes:

or DSG transmission.

The 1,2 is a fine engine when you are mainly going to potter around town. BUT as soon as you give it a motorway, or load it up with people and luggage the engine is just too small for the mass it has to haul around and the fuel consumption drops dramatically. There are many a thread on that on this forum. Just do a search. Click on "Search" top right without putting anything in the white box. THEN put your search term in and select "Yeti forum only" in the drop down list. You will get better focussed answers that way.

Personally my DPF does not worry me in the least. Like the pollen filter or catalyst or whatever it is there, it does something and it sorts itself out. I will deal with it if it needs dealing with but I suspect it never will.

Greenline SE costs £1,580 more than a SE 1.2TSi. Roadtax is £90 less on the Greenline too.

The 1,2 is a fine engine when you are mainly going to potter around town. BUT as soon as you give it a motorway, or load it up with people and luggage the engine is just too small for the mass it has to haul around and the fuel consumption drops dramatically. There are many a thread on that on this forum. Just do a search. Click on "Search" top right without putting anything in the white box. THEN put your search term in and select "Yeti forum only" in the drop down list. You will get better focussed answers that way.

Personally my DPF does not worry me in the least. Like the pollen filter or catalyst or whatever it is there, it does something and it sorts itself out. I will deal with it if it needs dealing with but I suspect it never will.

The 1.2 TSi is a more adaptable than many believe - in fact here its the pick of the bunch :-

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/longtermtests/255856/skoda_yeti_12_tsi.html

The 1.2 TSi is a more adaptable than many believe - in fact here its the pick of the bunch :-

http://www.autoexpre...eti_12_tsi.html

All fine and well. But a "pick of the bunch" does not suit everyone's driving styles. As I said (in my view) the 1,2 TSI is fine for city driving with us many people as you like in it and you will be very happy with it and its fuel consumption. But if you regularly travel the country with camping gear, bikes or roof box on the roof, or do many motorway miles you will not get good fuel consumption. It will still be an amazingly smooth lovely car, but you will pay at the pump.

There are a lot of scares about DPF most of which relate to grannies going 1/2 mile to the post office and back each day and no further. Get the revs up every so often and you will be fine. In your shoes I would go for the Greenline.

All fine and well. But a "pick of the bunch" does not suit everyone's driving styles. As I said (in my view) the 1,2 TSI is fine for city driving with us many people as you like in it and you will be very happy with it and its fuel consumption. But if you regularly travel the country with camping gear, bikes or roof box on the roof, or do many motorway miles you will not get good fuel consumption. It will still be an amazingly smooth lovely car, but you will pay at the pump.

I'm not saying one is better than the other but this long term report on the 1.2 TSi was by a magazine photographer who no doubt carries a lot of kit and covers plenty of motorway miles. His Yeti also followed the running of a long term diesel Superb so to me that is high praise indeed for the little petrol Yeti.

The price differential between the petrol & diesel also buys a lot of fuel - something to consider.

Personally like the GreenLine package myself, only drawback fo me being the lower ground clearance and lack of 4x4 but at least it comes as standard on more sensable 16" wheels no matter what trim level.

TP

I've got a 1.2 dsg Yeti and so far it's given 37 to the gallon, mainly A and B roads and knocking about town with a bit of motorway thrown in.

Yes, motorways are where it suffers most but the pay off is fantastic refinement and ease of driving, I love mine.

Last summer i did a motorway trip of about 4000 Km with the Yeti 1.2 TSI. Wtih speed around 130 Km/h the fuel consupmtion is about 7.3 l per 100 Km. This would be around 39 miles per gallon.

With the car fully loaded no problems at all. Also at steeper hills no problems, almost everything in 6th gear and cruise control. Was needed to go back to 5th gear once or twice only.

So in my opinion the 1.2 TSI is quite capable to do longer motorwaytrips.

Last summer i did a motorway trip of about 4000 Km with the Yeti 1.2 TSI. Wtih speed around 130 Km/h the fuel consupmtion is about 7.3 l per 100 Km. This would be around 39 miles per gallon.

With the car fully loaded no problems at all. Also at steeper hills no problems, almost everything in 6th gear and cruise control. Was needed to go back to 5th gear once or twice only.

So in my opinion the 1.2 TSI is quite capable to do longer motorwaytrips.

It strikes me that us poor Brits would struggle to achieve 39 MPG in 1.2L engined Yetis at 80+MPH on our motorways mainly because Britain has so many hills!

I reckon diesel engines offer more economy thanks to their high levels of low-row power (torque) - but wouldn't it be great if we could control the stupid turbo activation so that we didn't lose our fuel effeciency as soon as we went up a hill.... I remember the mark two version of the Toyota Celica GT4 with fondness in this regard as I could drive with gentle throttle at any speed and not allow the turbo to spin and thus maintain higher MPG, but these modern turbo'd engines are a pain as the turbos kick in on gentle throttle as well... :(

Anyway, I would go for the Greenline version rather than the 1.2, but when the sunroofs return, a diesel DSG version will be my choice...

Anyway, I would go for the Greenline version rather than the 1.2, but when the sunroofs return, a diesel DSG version will be my choice...

Last night I read an Autocar test of the new Seat Alhambra (the VW Sharan cousin). In the pictures they showed the standard top spec model's sunroof - yet it is standard. And guess what? It is the VERY roof we can't get on the Yeti anymore! So the entire VAG group can get this roof and anyone in the rest of the world can order this roof on a Yeti but not the UK and Ireland. It stinks. I got mine thankfully, but if I was waiting for this feature to come back I think you guys should email the SUK MD Mr Hazelwood en masse and soon...

Now back to topic: I think my choice would be clear between these two as well: Greenline every day.

The decider for us was the availability of the DSG automatic and our predominantly short trip non-motorway driving.

Fuel consumption early days:

Averaged 37.5 mpg over 125 miles of mainly motorway driving home M25/M3/M4/M32 mostly at 60 mph/2000 rpm in 7th.

But the car only had about 9 miles on the clock when we collected it, so has not loosened up yet, and I would expect an improvement with time. A & B road short trips (cold weather) showed as 35.5 mpg.

(Not started brim to brim measurements yet.)

Experience with the 2L diesel DSG Octy suggests that for short trips from cold there isn't much in it 35 - 40 mpg (no heater output either).

Longer trips where the diesel has time to reach working temperature are a different matter 45 - 55 mpg.

If there had been a Greenline 1.6 CR with DSG the choice would have been harder.

The problem with DPF seems to be if you ignore the advice from Skoda and let it block up. My wife tends to ignore little warning lights until she gets home and asks me to look at them. Hope its never a brake failure warning!

Hope your choice turns out to be the right one for you.

The 1.2 TSi, especially if the manual & DSG are added together, is by far the most popular unit as far as this forum goes.

Of course cost plays a part and the 1.6 TDI CR is only a recent addition but for the type of vehicle the SM is, it is somewhat surprising not to see a diesel leading the pack.

It may have been different if the 1.6TDI CR had been available from launch let alone a 1.4 TSi both in manual and DSG.

1. 1.2TSI (75 votes [23.58%] Percentage of vote: 23.58%
2. 1.8TSI 4x4 (26 votes [8.18%] Percentage of vote: 8.18%
3. 110TDI (40 votes [12.58%] Percentage of vote: 12.58%
4. 110TDI 4x4 (11 votes [3.46%] Percentage of vote: 3.46%
5. 140TDI 4x4 (61 votes [19.18%] Percentage of vote: 19.18%
6. 170TDI 4x4 (46 votes [14.47%] Percentage of vote: 14.47%
7. 1.2TSI DSG 7 Speed (from Feb 2010) (36 votes [11.32%] Percentage of vote: 11.32%
8. 140TDI 4x4 DSG 6 Speed (from June 2010) (15 votes [4.72%] Percentage of vote: 4.72%
9. 1.4TSI (from July 2010) (8 votes [2.52%]

I was very hopeful that the Greenline would be the most attractive engine option for me, but it suffers from some stupid restrictions on the options you can add. Why should adding a heated front windscreen affect the CO2 figures???

Chris

Thanks very much for all your very quick and informative help.

I have been in touch with DTD and I think my problem is going to be the long wait. They said it could be up to six months.

I may soldier on as I am and look again when the present factory peak has reduced some what. Perhaps there might be some better deals then!!

I am still thinking...........

Why should adding a heated front windscreen affect the CO2 figures???

The heated front screen (as with the heated rear screen) draws a huge amount of power and puts additional strain on the alternator and therefore the engine.

Higher engines loads equals higher CO2 = no heated front screen.

The 1,2 is a fine engine when you are mainly going to potter around town. BUT as soon as you give it a motorway, or load it up with people and luggage the engine is just too small for the mass it has to haul around and the fuel consumption drops dramatically.

I'd have to disagree with you there. My Wife's Yeti has now done 10,000 miles, so the engine hasn't fully loosen up yet - around town 42mpg is easily attainable (even with my lead right foot) and on a trip last weekend over to France - fully loaded with 4 adult, a 9 month old baby and all the stuff that goes with one, mainly motorway (making very good progress) I managed an average 37mpg.

When the Wife's behind the wheel she average's in the low 40's of mixed town and cross country driving.

The extra cost buys a lot of petrol - when I worked it out, over three years we wouldn't break even buying the diesel.

+1 Rockhopper. In the real world I think Autocar are only getting about 32 MPG from their 1.2 . However what is the difference in purchase cost new? (James ? ) . Quite a lot I'll bet, and that will buy an awful lot of fuel . :yes:

But then Top Gear Magazine are only averaging 31 mpg in their long term 2wd 2.0 TDi CR.

I was very hopeful that the Greenline would be the most attractive engine option for me, but it suffers from some stupid restrictions on the options you can add.

No spare wheel option either, but at least Skoda have done the decent thing and fitted ESP which is a shamefull omission for much of the FWD range, especially for those of us who will likely be buying second-hand.

I take it the Greenline is Skoda's version of VW's Blue-bowel-motion - incredibly long 5th gear, grip-free tyres and lowered suspension damaging the ride comfort (hence the 16's only) - whether it could get anywhere near 60mpg in the real world I'm rather doubtful, especially if the slightest incline requires dropping it into 4th.

Encouraging to hear some good reports on 1.2TSI economy - I think diesels will hold a substantial premium for residuals meaning there is more chance of getting into a used petrol Yeti sooner and not feel short-changed, especially as 1.4TSI's come on the market in time (an engine I really rate from a courtesy A3). Shame it won't likely have ESP, mind

I got 375 miles to a tank (full to empty) mostly with 3-5 adults mixed town and highway.

So a real variation of driving and loads.

375 miles is pretty good for 50 litres of fuel i think?

If you live in town the 1.2 DSG will make you giggle, it saves tons of fuel compared to a manual or larger engine, its really what the engine was designed for (stop-start traffic)