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Remapped Fabia vRS review

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Ok quite a few members have been requesting this so here goes:

To start off with most of us are aware that the vRS in it's standard form is no sloutch, it breezes to 60 quickly and climbs all the way to 90 without feeling stressed, it feels like an onslought between 2000-3000k rpm when standard as if all the boost comes at once, and just as quickly as it came is disappears. Once the magic 90 mph is reached the car starts to show it's poor drag co-effeciency and really struggles to 110+ above.

I started my car this morning with the intent to clean it, then take some video's (which to my annoyance are crap so I haven't posted them, however I will tomorrow), the first thing you notice is that the car doesnt sound any different on idle, nor when driving at a slow speed does the car give any indication that it is remapped which is excellent if your family/friends drive the car (or a Skoda technician), but any doubts that this car isnt capable are soon erased when you wheel spin it through the first 3 gears as the car struggles to get traction on full chat. The steering doesnt seem affected, cornering seems easier as you can blip the throttle better and the brakes seem up to the job (others may question that), however I believe if you are not going OTT (which you shouldnt be on normal roads) then the standard discs & pads are more than capable. One noticable improvement is the ASR which seems to not be as instrusive for some reason, whether this is because you are simply able to power through it's stopping power or if it gets reduced by Michael at Jabba im unsure.

General day to day driving / giving it some beans

Well, to be honest once you get used to it you'll want more :) But as far as things go you will notice a much more responsive pedal and a greater spread of the torque/bhp, unlike the standard car you are really able to use the gears to make quick progress and makes overtaking a doddle. I would say 0-60 arrives in around 6.5 seconds, this is confirmed by 3 seperate clock watch timings today (with a passenger) and because it keeps up with much faster cars.

In gear acceleration / The competition

Probably 20% in the lower gears and 30-40% once you get above 70 mph, it really doesnt let up. As a comparison run, I have lined my car up against my brothers Clio 172, which has a green panel filter and ligther alloys to loose some unsprung weight and also Eibach 20mm lowering to get the power down easier. Before on a 0-100 run he would be 6-7 car lenghts to 100 mph as an approximation and would sail past me even from a rolling start. Now that the car is remapped (with Cupra Intake and a Green Panel Filter), I would say my car pulls 2 car lengths to a 100 mph, a significant difference. I have also fended off a Bugeye Impreza (04) WRX with 216 bhp (I think!) and a CTR and probably most significantly, a Cooper S :D, which I managed to pull around 4 car lenghts on again to 90-100.

Economy

As a realistic average if you are nannying it you will get 56 mpg - as I managed on the way back from Peterborough, however if you do plan on giving it some beans (all the time) - expect 25-35 mpg as a realistic average. I tend to however around the 44-47 mark which encorporates a leasurely drive to work, with some briskoda driving home ;)

Mechanics

So far so good! admittadly i've probably only covered 500 miles since I had it remapped but so far i've had no clutch slippage and the power seems well within the cars capabilities (I put a lot of this down to the Cupra Intake). I would definately recommend the Cupra Intake before you get the car remapped, Michael at Jabba was extremely happy with the results compared to the stock filter, some 7 bhp and 10 lb/ft of torque, it also does help the engine breath much easier and it feels less stressed.

The annoyances

Giving it full beans you will see (when I post the videos) that I strugle to get traction on poor surfaces in damp/dirty road conditions (cant imagine good conditions will improve traction more than 20% though) up until around 50 mph, and you will get torque steer unless you are progressive with the throttle ( I find this fun however :D ), also the MPG when you boot it really does drop into WRX territory, so be prepared to have thick pockets if you plan on canning it everywhere.

All in all it's a definate :thumbup: and would recommend a remap on every Fabia vRS, purely because their is so much untapped power sitting in your car, trust me you wont believe it's possible to have the best of both worlds. But it is! :D

I would like to thank Michael at JabbaSport for doing an excellent job on my car, video's to follow tomorrow which should give people an idea of how much quicker it is, particuarly at high speed.

So what's the insurance premium loading for the various modifications?:

Front Upper Strut Brace

Cupra PD 160 Intake

Green Panel Filter

JabbSport Remap 195 bhp & 323lb/ft of torque

... perhaps as a % because our base premiums will all vary.

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Cupra Intake & Green panel filter & remap IMO you could get away with all though I would always recommend telling the insurers and the strut brace, nothing extra with Admiral, the guy said ok and charged me a

It is so very tempting to get it tweaked hehe ;) I'm with Zurich (have been for ages now, and they were excellent when I had a little mishap several years ago. Sux when your braking distance is worse than a new car in front of you doing emergency stops... Happens I suppose).

As long as you insure fully comprehensive and are over 25 you may have a good chance of not screaming up. Will have to ask my insurance broker, I forgot :(

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It's a review of the remap not a conversation about insurance increases, although I do take it into account, if we can get back on topic...

:)

I'd like some more power - I thought it was fine when running in but having gone over the initial limits I found little more there. Problem is I'm currently suffering a 60-70% loading on insurance owing to a fault claim and 2 speeding fines - that's one of the reasons for downgrading to a Fabia vRS in the first place! I'll report back when I've found out.

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A strut brace stiffens up the front to now end, best

you will notice a much more responsive pedal and a greater spread of the torque/bhp, unlike the standard car you are really able to use the gears to make quick progress and makes overtaking a doddle

Any chance either Hellfire or others have "before and after" rolling road figures to demonstrate the power increase and torque spread? It's the broadening of the torque band rather than absolute power I'd be interested in, to avoid having to change gear quite so much...

Great review... hard to be objective and impartial when it's your own car and own money gone into it though. I'm thinking of getting mine done but still no sure. On the plus side remapping improved the performance. But on the negative side there's up loss of the remaining two years warranty, cost of getting it done, cost of insurance, cost of ware and tear etc... Just not sure if it's worth the cost and potential problems.

Enjoyed the review, looking forward to the vids :D

On the subject of getting it done, I dont pick my vRS up till wednesday and already put my name down for the jabba group buy (10% discount is not to be sniffed at) cant wait to stick 5K on the clock then get jabba`d. I think after running the engine in I will stick the intake and filter on to get some mile under the belt so I can really appreciate the difference the remap will make certainly sounds like yuo have.

Great review... hard to be objective and impartial when it's your own car and own money gone into it though. I'm thinking of getting mine done but still no sure. On the plus side remapping improved the performance. But on the negative side there's up loss of the remaining two years warranty, cost of getting it done, cost of insurance, cost of ware and tear etc... Just not sure if it's worth the cost and potential problems.

Sorry to get off topic again but to answer your question regarding the warranty.

I contacted Jabba and asked the following -

1. Is the Map visible to Skoda techs during normal routine servicing?

2. When would you recommend having the job done (Currently has 1500 miles, but is a company car so that will creep up quickly. Also is still under warranty)

3. If the worst happened and I needed to make a warranty claim, is it feasible to send you the ECU and could you flash it to normal without the car present??

I got the following response

Good review indeed thanks, will definitely check out those vids :D

Hellfire... Great review, an interesting read :)

Look foward to the videos 2moro :thumbup:

Any chance either Hellfire or others have "before and after" rolling road figures to demonstrate the power increase and torque spread? It's the broadening of the torque band rather than absolute power I'd be interested in, to avoid having to change gear quite so much...

EDIT: ive (hopefully) attached a pdf with the jbs graph for FlyTDI's ibiza tdi 130, which is standard, his car ran alongside mine when we both did the dubsport day when mine was still stock... and they had identicle figures.

and heres one of my car with revo (the most powerful TDi130 theve ever tested) :D

271JBS071104_Large_.jpg

flytdi.pdf

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Done with a digital camera so sorry it's a bit scew-wiff.

1st Picture is of the car at full chat in 6th gear, showing the max power the car generated.

2nd Picture "I believe" is the car running through the gears, detuned because of clutch slippage - this is what the car runs with day-to-day.

:thumbup: Vids after sunday lunch :eek:

Mr Hellfire... Surely uve had Sunday lunch by now... Sorry I am impatatient :(

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Mr Hellfire... Surely uve had Sunday lunch by now... Sorry I am impatatient

:cool:

As promised two .mov video's, each 15 seconds long from my digital camera (no sound), I have bought a Camcorder from Ebay, so i'll do some extensive reviews/vids next time, but for now you get the jist...

1st clip is a 0-90 where I backed off a bit as I didnt want to go too fast on my private track. I also took it easy in first gear, hence the slow start...

2nd clip is the in gear acceleration (starting from 3rd gear) 30-??, it was only supposed to be until 70 mph but I got carried away :)

Video 1

Video 2

Both clips are in the region of 4mb.

:D

very nice there :)

what plays .mov files???

Quick Time

what plays .mov files???

QuickTime - available here

Chris

:thumbup:

oooooh i was hoping they were outside so we could see all the smoke

sounds like alot of torque for a standard drive line, the uprated Helix Clutch and fly wheel is only rated at 320 ft-lb!

Very nice video's, on an analogue watch we've just timed the 0-60 a 7 seconds and the 0-90 at 14 seconds! :thumbup:

:cool:

As promised two .mov video's' date=' each 15 seconds long from my digital camera (no sound), I have bought a Camcorder from Ebay, so i'll do some extensive reviews/vids next time, but for now you get the jist...

1st clip is a 0-90 where I backed off a bit as I didnt want to go too fast on my private track. I also took it easy in first gear, hence the slow start...

2nd clip is the in gear acceleration (starting from 3rd gear) 30-??, it was only supposed to be until 70 mph but I got carried away :)

Video 1

Video 2

Both clips are in the region of 4mb.

:D

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