went to hayselden skoda in doncaster todday to see about a test drive in the new skoda fabia vrs mk2, and see what it was like to my mk1. first thoughts were it looks nice car, i asked the sales person about a test drive an they said no problem. the car felt nice to drive and was quick for a 1.4 lol but didnt blow me away like i thought it would especially with 180bhp, and i missed the low down kick of the diesel plus you had to make it pull to get the best out of it. overall its a good car if a diesel option was avaliable i may consider, but the petrol version only manage 23.5mpg on the test drive where as my diesel vrs would manage at least 50mpg. overall nice car really enjoyed the test drive.

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Edited 23 January, 201115 yr by vrsadz

alot of the time the diesels punch or torque makes it feel like its really accelerating. Whereas with a long revving smooth petrol theres a consistent surge, so it doesnt feel as fast.

Whilst i can fully believe the mk2 returned 23.5mpg obviously as you gave it some punishment. id highly doubt that you would get double the mpg on the mk1 if driven in the same manner, of course it would give a higher mpg return, being diesel and 50hp lower in theoutput but no way would it return double driven like for like.

Edited 23 January, 201115 yr by janner_Sy

23.5mpg? You must have been driving like a maniac or stuck in traffic. The demo must have done very little miles as well hence bad mpg and lack of low down pull.

Currently getting 40.8mpg on maxidot or 390 miles using the full tank method.

I love the vRS because of the reason you don't like it Seems to have power no matter what gear I'm in. I did come from a Fiat Punto though!

Blue with black roof and those wheels is an awesome combination as well.

I would like to try a CR170 in there though. that could have some real potential, especially as it would require a 6spd DSG due to the torque, im just not a fan of diesels for use on a trackday. the power band is to short and you need to change gear to often for my liking. that said ive driven a 330d BMW on track and it was immense.

@Reavenger

is that 390 miles to the tank brim to empty??? that spretty good, how many litres of fuel is that. iirc the tank is 45litres,b but as with cars you can always get more in there

Edited 23 January, 201115 yr by janner_Sy

23.5mpg? You must have been driving like a maniac or stuck in traffic. The demo must have done very little miles as well hence bad mpg and lack of low down pull.

Currently getting 40.8mpg on maxidot or 390 miles using the full tank method.

I love the vRS because of the reason you don't like it Seems to have power no matter what gear I'm in. I did come from a Fiat Punto though!

Blue with black roof and those wheels is an awesome combination as well.

yeah givin it some beans lol, only had 1100miles on the clock

yeah givin it some beans lol, only had 1100miles on the clock

looking at the fuel economy threads on here and seat cupra net, it seems like the average economy for mixed driving is around 35-39mpg. With many guys seeing 40+ on the motorway, and low 30s around town.

Im not remotely bothered by fuel economy anyway. id drive a greenline fabia car if i was.

I would like to try a CR170 in there though. that could have some real potential, especially as it would require a 6spd DSG due to the torque, im just not a fan of diesels for use on a trackday. the power band is to short and you need to change gear to often for my liking. that said ive driven a 330d BMW on track and it was immense.

@Reavenger

is that 390 miles to the tank brim to empty??? that spretty good, how many litres of fuel is that. iirc the tank is 45litres,b but as with cars you can always get more in there

When I fill up with V-Power like I did today, it goes to 435 miles left with a full tank but it never turns out like that. For the 390 miles, I got to 340 miles done and then had to fill up and it said I had 55 miles left on the maxidot. So I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt there really. 99 Ron isn't easy to get round here so need to fill up when I can :S

yeah givin it some beans lol, only had 1100miles on the clock

From what I've read, on these forums and the manual, car doesn't bed in till AT LEAST 3k. Mine has gone up 1-2 mpg since I went over the 5k mark. Hopefully the MPG won't put you off to much.

Edited 23 January, 201115 yr by Reavenger

With Petrol and Diesel very close to £6 per gallon, and the prediction of it being over £7 per gallon by mid-summer, to me the new Fabia vRS appears too expensive to run. No doubt great power, performance and handling in a speedy and well-formed package however, for most of us affordability must also be considered amongst the costs of mortgages, electricity bills, children, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc........goes on forever..... For this reason, the MkII Fabia vRS misses the mark by a mile when compared with the MKI. "But the MKII is a completely different car" you hark, correct, and one of its most prominent features is that its flaming expensive to run on a day to day basis. For this reason I've dismissed purchasing a new vRS to replace my aged and creaky MK1 vRS which I've had from new.

When Skoda start producing a MKII Fabia vRS with a diesel engine and 6-speed manual gearbox together with a sensible price tag, then I'll part with some cash, but in the meantime, as attractive as it appears, the MKII vRS remains disregarded purely on the grounds of the running costs I would be committing to over the duration of ownership, which is usually 7 years/100,000 miles.

At £7 per gallon and 35mpg, 100,000 miles costs £20,000 in Petrol.

At £7 per gallon and 50mpg, 100,000 miles costs £14,000 in Diesel.

Personally, I'd rather have that £6,000 in my pocket than let that awfully nice Mr. Osborne have it.......as he'd end up with £5000 in duty and in return I'd only have £1000 in Petrol, but I'd also have to have earned £10,000 before tax to pay for this, so I only actually receive £1,000 in goods........90% of my well-earned going to government . "But the country is in financial crisis", you hark, it is, but I don't want to contribute any more than I am legally bound to cough up

Sorry, MKII vRS, I have no love for you (.....or Mr. Osborne).

When I fill up with V-Power like I did today, it goes to 435 miles left with a full tank but it never turns out like that. For the 390 miles, I got to 340 miles done and then had to fill up and it said I had 55 miles left on the maxidot. So I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt there really. 99 Ron isn't easy to get round here so need to fill up when I can :S

how many litres do you fill upi when you brim the tank?

I would like to try a CR170 in there though. that could have some real potential,

Can't see that ever happening. A fabia 2.0 TDI 170 would be significantly faster than the Octavia vRS TDI (due to the lower weight) - Skoda would never allow that situation to arise for marketing reasons (e.g polo gti not quicker than golf, ibiza cupra not faster than leon cupra etc...).

if they did a diesel they should put the 140bhp 2.0tdi cr engine in then it would be quick

how many litres do you fill upi when you brim the tank?

Filled it up to the petrol pump makes that strange noise and jerks backwards and won't put any more in. Or as I've done before, if the needle is just on the red line on the fuel gauge, then there is 7 litres left in the tank, so fill up with 38.5 :yes:

Can't see that ever happening. A fabia 2.0 TDI 170 would be significantly faster than the Octavia vRS TDI (due to the lower weight) - Skoda would never allow that situation to arise for marketing reasons (e.g polo gti not quicker than golf, ibiza cupra not faster than leon cupra etc...).

Fair point.

if they did a diesel they should put the 140bhp 2.0tdi cr engine in then it would be quick

Yours and my definitions of quick are obviously very different lol.

I didnt think the Mk2 fabia vRS was quick at all. Definitely lacking in the midrange, but with a map and some choice mods its got the potential to be very good. Zero lag, low weight, and ability to rev up to 7000rpm whilst still making good power, and with a pretty much flat torque curve where it matters. But compared to a mk1 furby vRS 1.9TDI it is ALOT quicker.

What i have found from the diesels i've driven (octy vRS PD TDI/CR TDI, Furby vRS TDI etc) all i found was this god almighty surge of torque which disappeared almost as soon as it arrived. Again these are much better when mapped as it widens the power band, which is my biggest bug bear on diesels but they still fool you into thinking they are quick. this is the reason that no other brand of performance hatch/saloon use diesels in their flagship models.

This is the reason why alot of people get disappointed when uprating to stage 2 after having a stage 1 remap. Stage 1 maps are often very peaky (like diesel delivery) and feel really quick. with stage 2 the power band is widened, and its much more progressive as such, there's not such a big surge as its more sustained. this gives the feeling of not being as quick, however when you compare the performance times there are very large differences between the two.

is yours mapped btw?

Regarding diesel power, BMW don't fool you with the 530D - 0-60 6.3secs. and 155 mph top speed lol

Yes but you have forgoten you'd be driving a BMW and we all know how widely loved BMW drivers are. :p SMIOK

Regarding diesel power, BMW don't fool you with the 530D - 0-60 6.3secs. and 155 mph top speed lol

look @ post 4. ive driven a 330D and said it was immense, but let sbe fair the 1.9TDI is not quite in the same league