Hi all, just wondering what this engine is like in a fairly large car like the yeti.

Have people had any problems with the engine?

Any performance parts out yet?

Also what sort of mpg are people getting?

I am looking at getting either a octavia or leon with this engine.

Thanks

Jamie

Hi all, just wondering what this engine is like in a fairly large car like the yeti.

Have people had any problems with the engine?

Any performance parts out yet?

Also what sort of mpg are people getting?

I am looking at getting either a octavia or leon with this engine.

Thanks

Jamie

I have done about 7000 miles on mine now, mixture of motorway driving, town and country (mostly just me onboard).

I also had initial reservation on these engine as I am used to engines at least double the size of this. However, after the engine has run in (first 3000 miles, it felt very tight and wasn't very smooth), it performs really well, some rolling roads are showing 120+ hp and 200 NM standard on these engines. The turbo lag does exist, however on normal driving you would not notice it, well I didn't, of course if you give it more wellie it does show the relative low rev lack of power, but normal driving definitely nothing noticeable.

It does accelerate respectable enough, but don't expect break neck accelerations. In gear acceleration are great because the ratios are spot on for all types of driing (70 mph, 2500 rpm in 6th), it is also very flexible, it pulls easily from 30 mph in 3rd, 4th or 5th (haven't tried 6th)

Firstly, although the Yeti seem like a large car, the 1.2 version actually only weight around 1350kg, which is not heavy by modern day standards, however the profile doesn't help on motorway speed, this has come as a cost to fuel economy.

I have not had any problem with mine at all, some people mentioned they had the EPC light on, but mine was flawless, occasionally the automatic choke engages when its cold, but that's just normal on most cars.

On the motorway, it is very economical at 70 mph, I could manage 43 mpg when doing that, however when it is travelling more than that then the economy would drop, expect middle to fast lane driving at around 38-39 mpg, which is not all that bad considering the speed you are going. At 50 mph (ie Average Speed Camera speed) the computer shows at least 50 mpg, and sometimes 60 mpg.

It is very economical in town, I could easily manage 35-36 mpg on mixed stop start, 30 mph driving. The first gear is very short and take some time to get used to.

In terms of tuning, there was a thread (pretty old now, I believe) on "Chip Tuning" on the 1.2 TSI, do a search on the search box in the right hand top corner. As far as I am concern, in contrast to what ABT or other website has said, chip tuning is not yet possible due to "double write protection"??

But if you fancy inductions, those are readily availabe from K&N - not panel, but enclosed induction kit.

Having said that and started the thread on chip tuning, I have not find the need to do any tuning as yet.

Edited 24 January, 201115 yr by My_Yeti

AS above really, its a cracking little motor.

I myself came from a 2.0 turbo and a 3.5 V6, so its a big step down for me.

But in all honesty i find it just as quick in town as my 3.5, plant your foot down from a dead stop and it will light up the tyres and very quickly get to 45mph, its only after that does the 1.2 show signs of it being underpowered.

Fuel economy is excellent, i live in a gridlocked city in asia and i get better MPG than almost any car i know of in the country, the little engine and the DSG combine perfectly for this situation.

Plus theres the added benefit of remapping, its not availible yet but when it is you can expect more torque, top end and slightly better MPG.

Whats not to like on a engine that costs peanuts to tax every year!

The 1.2 tsi engine is a gem. It's very smooth and quiet and the 'change up' light on the dashboard seems to ask the impossible by suggesting changing up gear at seemingly too low road speeds. So most of the time I'm driving down small country lanes in 6th gear with the revs between 1200 - 2200 - almost like a big diesel. I don't think I've ever pushed the engine beyond 4000 rpm as there really isn't any need. Over 6000 miles I've averaged 39 mpg - it would be more but my daily commute takes me over a mountain. Mpg before going up is 44mpg - once at the top it's down to 32mpg and by the end of my 25 mile commute to the Welsh Valleys it's recovered to 40 mpg overall. I haven't tested the engine with a full car load but I'm sure it would cope .

So for me it's a great engine

fantastic engine, great power and delivery esp for a 1.2, i reg drive with 5 adults and i can overtake even uphill with plenty of power in reserve, as for mpg ive seen anything from 38 to 60's....i cannot fault it at all, i did have an issue with no oil after 3000 miles but that has settled now..

Agree with everything above - I drive both a Fabia and a Yeti with this engine and I find both of them a hoot to drive! I find the Yeti is better/happier to be chucked round corners but definitely more get up and go with the Fabia.

Hi all, just wondering what this engine is like in a fairly large car like the yeti.

Have people had any problems with the engine?

Any performance parts out yet?

Also what sort of mpg are people getting?

I am looking at getting either a octavia or leon with this engine.

Thanks

Jamie

Ours has never missed a beat, an amazing engine. It's never felt at all underpowered, certainly has all the power we need, and coupled with the DSG it has smooth, progressive acceleration, surprising amount of pull for a small engine, still can't believe it's only a 1.2! Ours had averaged 39mpg overall from new on the Maxidot, but on longer trips we've averaged 43mpg regularly, and around town it's always in the mid to high 30's. The lively throttle response took some getting used to originally, but now wouldn't change it for anything.

Thank you all very much for all of your very usefull replies. I have got a test drive in a Leon on saturday and if i like it I will be ordering it there and then.

Great thread for an aspiring 1.2TSI owner - more comments appreciated

As said above, it's a good engine.

There is only one small area where it is lacking, that's overtaking at speed. Acceleration from 60mph is not rapid if you need to pass someone quickly.

Not surprising considering it's a 1.2 litre!

If you do a lot of motorway miles I'd go for one of the diesels. Otherwise for general everyday it is great.

Ours spends 90% of the time on country lanes and performance is brisk at lower speeds, part of the issue at high speed may not just the engine power, the Yeti is rather un-areodynamic. Drag coefficient is similar to a Range Rover.

We are averaging 36.1mpg over 1200 miles and the maxidot is only 1% out. That's with the 7 speed DSG box.

Right lads!! What does "tsi" stand for ?

Turbo Stratified Injection.

I thought that meant it is both turbocharged AND supercharged?

http://www.vw.co.za/about/technology/tsi/

Edited 26 January, 201115 yr by looby

Still running in (approaching 1000 miles) so no heavy welly but the 1.2 TSI DSG performs every task the 2L TDI DSG Octavia used to equally well. I doubt if we ever used the 138 BHP of the Octy. The Yeti will always loose out to the Octavia on economy at high speed because of its boxy shape.

Seeing how frequently the DSG changes gear in variable speed town traffic I'm glad I didn't get a manual box with my left knee problems.

Fuel consumption so far has varied between 35 and 45 mpg on a mix of trips (with a peak of 52 mpg on the M5 going north from Bridgwater to the M4/M5 junction north of Bristol, i.e. up hill with cruise control set to 60 mph).

As they say, its a cracking little engine, and the 7 speed DSG seems to be even smoother than the 6 speed DSG.

Great thread for an aspiring 1.2TSI owner - more comments appreciated

+1 Confidence inspiring to say the least - keep them coming.

+1 Confidence inspiring to say the least - keep them coming.

Great Thread!. I am on the verge of purchasing my first Skoda (Octavia) and originally was considering the 1.2 but have doubts about its ability to pull a car like that when fully loaded, despite what the salesman says. I was veering towards the 1.6 diesel (everybody looks at you like you have two heads these days if you don't buy a diesel)..but with my annual mileage < 10,000 and after reading these replies I may go back to the 1.2 petrol

Great Thread!. I am on the verge of purchasing my first Skoda (Octavia) and originally was considering the 1.2 but have doubts about its ability to pull a car like that when fully loaded, despite what the salesman says.

I don't think these comments above refer to a "fully loaded" 1,2... It refers to town driving with a very small load in the car (eg. a max of 3 passengers). A fully loaded 1,2 still goes, still does not sound strained and is still a cracking car but the fuel consumption will suffer significantly. Just like if you do 80mph on a motorway.

I test drove a 1,2 DSG and found it extemely slow to get up and go. A 12 second 0-60 reflects that.

But for mainly town driving it does sound as if it can certainly do the job admirably.

I don't think these comments above refer to a "fully loaded" 1,2... It refers to town driving with a very small load in the car (eg. a max of 3 passengers). A fully loaded 1,2 still goes, still does not sound strained and is still a cracking car but the fuel consumption will suffer significantly. Just like if you do 80mph on a motorway.

I test drove a 1,2 DSG and found it extemely slow to get up and go. A 12 second 0-60 reflects that.

But for mainly town driving it does sound as if it can certainly do the job admirably.

Here is a post from a while back with 12,000 miles of 1.2 TSi experience. No problems here regarding power, full loads or steep inclines - and from an ex oil burner owner. Low & mid range torque being the real key.

mhjonesuk, on 18 November 2010 - 14:45, said:

I've done 12000 miles in mine now and absolutely love the engine, the fuel consumption is about 33 mpg ish but it is fun to drive with the engine perfectly adequate at the British speed limits and lovely and smooth even above them. I find the DSG can get caught out when around town as it seems to go into the highest gear possible as soon as possible, At motorway speeds I find kickdown only produces relatively sedate acceleration for overtaking but it isn't anything dangerous and the Yeti's relative quietness makes it seem as if it is going slower than it is anyway. As for power I am not exactly small and it can deal with 4 large adults easily enough even dealing easily with the steep hills around my place fully loaded. This engine will pull happily from a few thousand revs and I have noticed very little loss in torque after coming from a diesel.

Hope this is of help and not rambling too much

Mark

I find the DSG can get caught out when around town as it seems to go into the highest gear possible as soon as possible...

I found that driving in S instead of D solves this problem. In S the car stays in a gear as if it is a manual far more and takes far longer to change up and go to the top as you say. It will use more fuel as a result of course.

as i said i reg drive with 5 adults on board i live in a very hilly area, and reg see 40+ mpg....as for power etc, i can overtake in any situation..far far better than the focus zetec with 120bhp it replaced ...on occasions, when just me and missus in, i have had a few spirited drives, and seen off quite a few bigger powered cars esp on the twisties...ITS AN HOOT!!!!!

Great Thread!. I am on the verge of purchasing my first Skoda (Octavia) and originally was considering the 1.2 but have doubts about its ability to pull a car like that when fully loaded, despite what the salesman says. I was veering towards the 1.6 diesel (everybody looks at you like you have two heads these days if you don't buy a diesel)..but with my annual mileage < 10,000 and after reading these replies I may go back to the 1.2 petrol

I test drove an Octavia to try the TSI (they didn't have a Fabia) - when we got back to the dealers I had to check with them that it was the right car!!! Sure didn't feel like a 1.2!

I can only agree with the above comments. We have done 10k kilometers in our 1.2 TSI DSG, and done anything from going with the family on vacation (2 adults, 2 kids, car stuffed) on highway cruising to towing a boat, and most commonly sitting in commuting traffic jams. I was also a bit sceptical of this engine (coming from a Roomster with a 1.9 diesel), but this engine has by far succeded my expectations. The only negative comment is that it is not extremely fuel efficient, but I guess that has also to do with the fact that it's a fairly heavy and non-aerodynamic car it has to drag around. The torque is equivalent to what you might expect in a "traditional" 1.8l engine, and so is unfortunately more or less also the consumption.

As said earlier - if you do a lot of miles, a lot of highway driving and/or regularly tow heavu stuff a diesel might be more appropriate, but if not, this is a perfect engine!

Great Thread!. I am on the verge of purchasing my first Skoda (Octavia) and originally was considering the 1.2 but have doubts about its ability to pull a car like that when fully loaded, despite what the salesman says. I was veering towards the 1.6 diesel (everybody looks at you like you have two heads these days if you don't buy a diesel)..but with my annual mileage < 10,000 and after reading these replies I may go back to the 1.2 petrol

Regarding the question if the 1.2 TSI engine can cope with a fully loaded Yeti I would say, definitely! Especially, if it's also docked to the 7 gear DSG. Since the engine is so quiet and gear changes are virtually unnoticeable in most situations, it will only be the rev counter and the maxi dot that tells you that you are in 5: th gear rather than in 7: th gear, up a steep hill. Besides that, the ride is as smooth and quiet as on level road in 7: th gear at the same speed (within limits). Of course, you have to pay a bit extra in fuel consumption but normally these situations occur only for a relatively short time thus not affecting average fuel consumption that much.

My fuel consumption figures here: http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/156147-12-tsi-real-mpg/page__view__findpost__p__2256564

/Stephan

Thanks again for all the brilliant replies. I have a test drive on saturday and will update with how it went.