Well if you fit a new oil pump it will prob last for another 3yrs..someone mentioned that the pump was possibly modified, but vw or skoda wont say if it was or wasnt !!

If you know the top end is fine and the urbo is fine, but have doubts about the pump and how long it has been in the engine,and you want to keep the car, then replace the pump.

Depends how many miles you plan to do in the car.

That was the problem supurbia..i couldnt scrap the car as it was still owing on finance...i've been to see the local dealer who supplied the car and awaiting to see if they are interested in purchasing it off us..incidentally they have one for sale...same model, more miles than the one we have, shorter mot,and asking a fair bit for it. Makes ours look like a real bargain to be had in our opinion.

We had to get it repaired, as it was basically a liability being a non runner, and now with a new engine and years mot it is now an asset.We aren't asking bucket loads for it, and certainly less than what the dealer is selling their model for. Incidentally i got a reasonable online valuation from we buy any car...and it would mean we could walk away finance paid and a bit in the bank!

Andy, Sparshatts will offer you nowt for it, they are the unholyest of unholy dealers, when I wanted a Sup, they couldn't get me one, a day after the salesman rang me to say they'd had one in but the manager offered the guy so little in px he walked off in a bad mood, personally I wouldn't deal with them again, I worked for another branch of the family years ago and it is a family that kicks sand in your face.

Reading this thread with great interest as i bought a 2.0 140 which had the problem.

sadly my 04 1.9 had to be retired due to my local council and their age restrictions(taxi)

the old car had achieved 277k and still had plently of life in it.

the big question i have is - am i replacing the oil pump and drive with the same parts that are likely to fail again or is there a modified pump which can be fitted? Fitting a replacement engine also means i could be faced with the same problems 30k later?

any constructive feedback would be helpful thanks!

From what I've seen, you will need to replace the balancer unit or engine to prevent it happening again.

The pump itself doesn't usually fail. It is the drive shaft from the balancer to the pump (looks like a 3" section of 1/4" allen key) that rounds off on the 'splines' that drive it. The concentricity of the 'splines' in the balancer unit seems to be the issue, so just replacing the shaft will probably result in another failure.

The 2.0 PD engine will never be the excellent long term engine as the 1.9 was.

The oil pump drive is a bodge which is severely hammered and fretted by the balancer shaft which drives it. If you need a big diesel as a long term proposition to run a business - forget it and buy something else.

rotodiesel.

The 2.0 PD engine will never be the excellent long term engine as the 1.9 was.

The oil pump drive is a bodge which is severely hammered and fretted by the balancer shaft which drives it. If you need a big diesel as a long term proposition to run a business - forget it and buy something else.

rotodiesel.

It's the way VAG treats its customers over this issue that it so unforgiveable. Audi or Skoda.

Every other manufacturer has problems like this and handles them so much better.

Nissan had a problem like this some years ago. The problem was less frequent and like this one, they couldn't identify the cars involved. Instead of denying it, they just extended the warranty on that particular problem to 10 years or 250k miles.

Just popped by the garage. The engine is out and the new unit is about to receive all the external components off the old engine. I should get the car back at the weekend.

I don't know if this is true but the garage owner said that he believes the balancer shaft is now case hardened in the new engine units and that is why they don't see repeat failures. Surely someone inside Skoda can verify/explain.

Sadly, another Superb Mk1 on an 08 plate was there having just trashed its engine with the same oil pump failure. The owner is waiting for a response from Skoda customer support because the 75k mileage is over the warranty limit (60k for the third year).

I'll post again when I'm driving Boris again (my wife's name for it because its large and a butt of few jokes).

The 2.0 PD engine will never be the excellent long term engine as the 1.9 was.

The oil pump drive is a bodge which is severely hammered and fretted by the balancer shaft which drives it. If you need a big diesel as a long term proposition to run a business - forget it and buy something else.

rotodiesel.

But I thought the oil pump issue was solely related to the longditudnal BSS 2.0 PD engines? Other series of 2.0 PD's don't appear to suffer this problem (as far as I'm aware). So all 2.0 PD's shouldn't be written off as "no hopers". Or do I have the wrong end of the stick?

Could well be one of the last mk1's superb before they went on to the mk2 with transverse engines......or is it a possibility that the newer superbs have inherited the same problem?

Hi. I'm new here and i suffered from the same problem discussed in this thread.

It failed at 41,828 miles (9 months out of warranty). I replaced the Turbo and Oil Pump Drive Assembly on the dealers recommendation and the car is now at 58,000 miles. No further problems but it worries me.

The dealer mentioned that the new drive assembly is a different part number but did not inspire confidence.

Has anybody heard of any cases of this recurring with the new drive assembly?

Ive heard of someone having a couple of engines replaced due to the oil pump failure..makes you wonder if the dealer will be saying anything to skoda about it, cause it must be seriously peeving them off....well i hope so at skoda uk who have to pay for the repairs, provided one has decent warranties! its about time they were brought to book and punished for treating customers like dogs mess and not having a care in the world.

VAG know all about these engines and made a calculated cost based decision to dump them into "Skoda" stickered vehicles to get rid of them with the lowest brand impact.

They don't give a toss about their customers - otherwise they might have corrected all the other serious design defects this vehicle has such as rain water ingress. This problem was fully known to VAG before the Superb clone was stickered - there is even a VW branded TSB outlining the "fix".

Nice people to do business with.

rotodiesel.

Maybe roto it would be a good idea if VAG used engine codes like FIX34584631...at least the owner would know the engine was duff

But I thought the oil pump issue was solely related to the longditudnal BSS 2.0 PD engines? Other series of 2.0 PD's don't appear to suffer this problem (as far as I'm aware). So all 2.0 PD's shouldn't be written off as "no hopers". Or do I have the wrong end of the stick?

Gotta avoid 55,06,56 and in some cases 07 Passat's with BKP and BMP engines 140 and 170 respectively, these trash the oil pump and suffer Injector failure along with tandem pump, tbh the only safe option right now is to get CR powerplant's, the later PD's are supposed to be ok, but I'm not convinced myself, whole thing is a hashed up 1.9, bit like comparing Ian Wright to Bradley Wright Phillips.

Gotta avoid 55,06,56 and in some cases 07 Passat's with BKP and BMP engines 140 and 170 respectively, these trash the oil pump and suffer Injector failure along with tandem pump, tbh the only safe option right now is to get CR powerplant's, the later PD's are supposed to be ok, but I'm not convinced myself, whole thing is a hashed up 1.9, bit like comparing Ian Wright to Bradley Wright Phillips.

But how many 2.0 PD owners on the FL Octavia forum complain about oil pump failure? I totally agree with you that VAG have acted in an almost dishonest way over this issue, and I understand your very justifiable anger because of your personal experience, but that doesn't mean the later 2.0 PD's are all junk.

But how many 2.0 PD owners on the FL Octavia forum complain about oil pump failure? I totally agree with you that VAG have acted in an almost dishonest way over this issue, and I understand your very justifiable anger because of your personal experience, but that doesn't mean the later 2.0 PD's are all junk.

Not me, I've not had one fail, yet, as for the 2.0, it is junk, it has many fault's and it is a born out of wedlock basically, the son of something a whole lot better that was top of the class already.

There's enough evidence here to suggest that the 2.0 TDI Superb is to be avoided at all costs IMO. I nearly bought one when they first came out. Lucky escape I had.

I have a 56 plate 2.0 140bhp Superb with 70K miles. The oil pump let go this morning. Anyone know roughly how much it will cost to have it replaced?.

In February it had a replacement comfort/convenience unit thanks to water causing a short in a door mirror. The pollen filter housing let water into the passenger footwell but I caught that before serious damage to the wiring loom. My previous Superb's wiring loom was destroyed by the same issue - quoted nearly £3k to fix by main dealer. Skoda paid 40% of the labour cost for the current car's issues even though it was a year out of warranty. Having replaced the timing belt and water pump in January I am getting heartily sick of spending on what is supposed to be a reliable car.

These are not reliable cars.

They have been produced with several serious design defects which will cause expensive damage or make the car potentially dangerous (water in brake servo).

You have two choices - cut and run, making sure you spend no more money with VAG. In the case of an engine design defect (2.0 PD) this is the only sensible option as there is no cheap "fix".

Otherwise, correct all the problems yourself before they become expensive. Pollen filter outer seal, plenum drains and seized pinch bolts are all fixable by the owner for pence - as are several other "sillies".

I have a 1.9 PD and have taken the second option with the design faults. So, my car is reliable but I am utterly p i s s e d off at having to do the VAG designer's work for him - I have never owned a car which has needed so much corrective maintenance. So, I will not be spending any more of my hard (honestly) earned money with VAG who produce cars with serious defects which they know all about - in the case of the Superb, before it was even marketed.

I believe these people trade dishonestly.

rotodiesel.

Bry, cut and run unless you were at low revs and turned it off there and then, go to a Skoda dealer and ask if one of the mechanics wants to buy it, if he gives you £2-£3k for it and you don't spend £1400 min £4k max repairing it it's like selling it for up to 7k, a mechanic will get trade prices for parts and no labour to worry about, makes it a viable option to him, personally I would want shot of it, they don't sell well and devalue like a stone, anything over 2k for it and you should ave it on yer toes.

I have a 56 plate 2.0 140bhp Superb with 70K miles. The oil pump let go this morning. Anyone know roughly how much it will cost to have it replaced?.

In February it had a replacement comfort/convenience unit thanks to water causing a short in a door mirror. The pollen filter housing let water into the passenger footwell but I caught that before serious damage to the wiring loom. My previous Superb's wiring loom was destroyed by the same issue - quoted nearly £3k to fix by main dealer. Skoda paid 40% of the labour cost for the current car's issues even though it was a year out of warranty. Having replaced the timing belt and water pump in January I am getting heartily sick of spending on what is supposed to be a reliable car.

Sympathies. Mine let go at 42k. It cost me 1500 pounds with a 40% goodwill from skoda. About 2200 all together.

That was for turbo, oil pump , drive assembly and labour.

The lingering bad taste in the mouth comes free.

Edited 4 April, 201115 yr by Oilpumpvictim

omg stop talking about the bss engine i have one of these ive done 1450628 miles ssshhhhhh no more talk about oil pumps please :yes: :yes:

Thanks to all who replied - you may be interested to know that Skoda have donated the oil pump for free and I have only to pay for the labour cost which is about £630. In the circumstances that is a good result. Obviously I have escaped without having to replace the turbo which, bearing in mind I couldn't stop immediately for safety reasons is remarkable. I am indebted to DM Keith in York for great service and if anyone in the area is thinking of buying Skoda I can recommend them. However, I am left wondering what next? I have lost faith in the car and don't feel inclined to buy another. Like many of you I have a sour taste in my mouth. This car has cost me £2200 in bills since Christmas of which about 1/3 is reasonable wear and tear or sheduled maintenance. 2 bad cars in a row doesn't feel like bad luck to me.

Regards to all

Bryan

Edited 5 April, 201115 yr by bryan4960

Thanks to all who replied - you may be interested to know that Skoda have donated the oil pump for free and I have only to pay for the labour cost which is about £630. In the circumstances that is a good result. Obviously I have escaped without having to replace the turbo which, bearing in mind I couldn't stop immediately for safety reasons is remarkable. I am indebted to DM Keith in York for great service and if anyone in the area is thinking of buying Skoda I can recommend them. However, I am left wondering what next? I have lost faith in the car and don't feel inclined to buy another. Like many of you I have a sour taste in my mouth. This car has cost me £2200 in bills since Christmas of which about 1/3 is reasonable wear and tear or sheduled maintenance. 2 bad cars in a row doesn't feel like bad luck to me.

Regards to all

Bryan

That is a result, one you shouldn't need mind you, I wonder if pressure is building on this as Skoda never give much away normally, perhaps they are diverting court action's.

Or skoda have so many oil pumps sitting on their parts shelves they cant even sell them...so hopefully giving them away free would be nice...shame the likes of me and others had to pay full wack !!

Even if the courts are sniffing around...they should still make VW pay for their incompetance is selling engines that are not fit for purpose.

omg stop talking about the bss engine i have one of these ive done 1450628 miles ssshhhhhh no more talk about oil pumps please :yes: :yes:

That's an impressive mileage! You'll be catching up with the Volvo in the States for a world record.