I'm completely lost now.

Personally for me it works. I have a injector in a metal boost hose so for me to connect it with a delete pipe is easy with a 90 silicone hose to the egr delete. Where as with a egr valve in place you will have to use a oem hose and cut it.

For the sake of £40, it looks miles neater

the flap is horizontal until engine shuts down.... aint gona restrict flow.

and you could put a drainpipe in place of the egr but as the ecu controls the boost what is increasing the flow goin to achieve?

Sorry are you now saying the egr delete isn't worth doing? I very much question that as quite a few car forums have mentioned this being a good mod. I was asking exactly why you think it's going to fail on emissions apart from a mate of a mate told me.

the flap is horizontal until engine shuts down.... aint gona restrict flow.

I take it yours is still connected to your exhaust then? I cant see why if you've spent all the money on your car and then to have a standard boost hose? that we all know are prone to failure even on a standard car. Very strange.

Anyway back to the op.

If you want to get rid of the oem boost hoses then is a no brainer and it looks 10 times better when coupled up with a 90 silicone hose

it doesn't take a scientist to look at both options regarding air flow

one has no restrictions

the other has some gubbins in the way

pretty blatantly obvious which one will flow better!! its just common sense

I am completely lost are we even still talking about egr deletes?! Agh sod I'd I'm having a pint.

Didn't want to set an argument off guys lol.

Each to their own i suppose aint it?

All i wanted to know......is there any risks associated with this mod? Especially with blanking a bit off on the turbo?

Cheers Guys

Daz

you will lose anti shuddder valve on earlier ASZ engines... easy to combat however just press the clutch in when you knock the car off...

other negatives are Engine Light (can be mapped out)

also may fail mot in 2012

I take it yours is still connected to your exhaust then? I cant see why if you've spent all the money on your car and then to have a standard boost hose? that we all know are prone to failure even on a standard car. Very strange.

Anyway back to the op.

If you want to get rid of the oem boost hoses then is a no brainer and it looks 10 times better when coupled up with a 90 silicone hose

mine isnt...mine has a jabba exhaust manifold that doesnt have the egr flange attached.

and it has alloy boost pipes and aftermarket hoses fitted by jabba.

it doesn't take a scientist to look at both options regarding air flow

one has no restrictions

the other has some gubbins in the way

pretty blatantly obvious which one will flow better!! its just common sense

my point being jase...it can only achieve the boost that the ecu allows...if mine can still boost at 2.3 bar then the flow cant be effected enough to make any difference.

Sorry are you now saying the egr delete isn't worth doing? I very much question that as quite a few car forums have mentioned this being a good mod. I was asking exactly why you think it's going to fail on emissions apart from a mate of a mate told me.

The egr allows inert exhaust gases back into the intake manifold for emission purposes (Nitrides of Oxygen (NOX) )in exhaust gas, has the effect of reducing combustion temperatures....But..these gases mix with the oil vapoured air from the crankcase breather and its what gunks up the egr valve and intake manifold....so people do the egr delete and crankcase elephant hose mod to erradicate this problem...i dont understand why people waste time and money fitting an egr delete pipe when simply removing and plugging the rubber vacuum hose that activates the egr valve does the same job at no cost and 1 minute of time....the egr delete pipes cannot be seen anyway for the engine cover...and on the later blt engines you also lose the anti shudder valve if you fit a egr delete pipe...everyone to their own...only my tuppence worth.

Not every one runs the engine cover.... We are not on about higher boost pressures. How many times do we need to tell you this??!!??!!

This is boring me now

You lose the ASV valve on all PD engines when you do EGR delete. Are you sure removing the vacuum hose actually 100% closes the EGR valve? I am sure it is still open a bit. For keeping oem look, you could detach the connecting pipeat the EGR end, cut a couple of slivers of coke can into the same style as the connectors, insert, and bolt back up again. Then there is definitely no recirc going on. Actually, thinking about it, I would cap off at the manifold end.

Been running an EGR delete now for 5 years+ and no worries. Mongrel flew through MOT yesterday and I asked MOT chap who ran the garage about EGR deletes and he had heard nothing about plans to make them MOT failures.

Not every one runs the engine cover.... We are not on about higher boost pressures. How many times do we need to tell you this??!!??!!

This is boring me now

cant be boring you that much as your keen on replying..

so your not on about higher boost pressures so what does increasing the flow by fitting a delete pipe achieve??

You lose the ASV valve on all PD engines when you do EGR delete. Are you sure removing the vacuum hose actually 100% closes the EGR valve? I am sure it is still open a bit. For keeping oem look, you could detach the connecting pipeat the EGR end, cut a couple of slivers of coke can into the same style as the connectors, insert, and bolt back up again. Then there is definitely no recirc going on. Actually, thinking about it, I would cap off at the manifold end.

Been running an EGR delete now for 5 years+ and no worries. Mongrel flew through MOT yesterday and I asked MOT chap who ran the garage about EGR deletes and he had heard nothing about plans to make them MOT failures.

Jason the egr can only activate when the vacuum unit activates the diaphram on top of the egr valve which then opens the plunger on the bottom of the egr spindle...otherwise the plunger blocks the exhaust gases from entering.

it was moggytech who posted the other day about new emissions which removing the egr may make it fail.

EGR delete is better!

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rumour has it diesels will be tested on emissions and nox gasses in the near future poss 2012??

what ive heard is that a car will fail if it was fitted with a egr valve as standard and it has been removed.

only rumour for now as my mate went on his MOT refresher course and the trainer had heard of the rumour but wasnt sure when it will be changing.

i want to remove my egr valve but ive heard the 'blt' engine cannot have the management light mapped out?

EGR delete is better!

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rumour has it diesels will be tested on emissions and nox gasses in the near future poss 2012??

what ive heard is that a car will fail if it was fitted with a egr valve as standard and it has been removed.

only rumour for now as my mate went on his MOT refresher course and the trainer had heard of the rumour but wasnt sure when it will be changing.

i want to remove my egr valve but ive heard the 'blt' engine cannot have the management light mapped out?

my egr isnt functioning and ive no light.

My head hurts!! So it's all just rumour about the mot fail, mines booked in in feb next year so unless anyone has one in jan I'll let you know! As for it being a worthwhile mod, so many people not just on this site but all over the place have done it, so I doubt very much that it does not do anything it's too popular, just going on common sense and logic here plus if devonutopia has done it it's got to be good right??!!!

Warwick, can you give me some info? I've got a BLT engine, and want to get an uprated turbo, but I don't want to delete the EGR. I've read through some of your threads, and understand that you still got your EGR, but it's disconnected. What about the pipe that goes from the manifold to the EGR?

Warwick, can you give me some info? I've got a BLT engine, and want to get an uprated turbo, but I don't want to delete the EGR. I've read through some of your threads, and understand that you still got your EGR, but it's disconnected. What about the pipe that goes from the manifold to the EGR?

it can safely be left in place as the gases cant enter it if the egr is disconnected or you can remove the pipe and blank the flange on the exhaust manifold with a cut up coca cola can...:yes:

What have you done with yours? As I thought that with the BLT engine, with any turbo (apart from standard) the pipe would need to be removed, as it doesn't mate up?