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Tyre Wear and Camber Angle

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Hello,

I am aware that there had been quite a few discussion about the life of tires etc. Ahead of my first service, I went to check the tyres and that the outside of both the front tires worn more than the inside.

Is this due to the camber angle or is it because of conering? I do corner quite quickly normally, with the Yeti's agility, it is difficult not to ;)

Thanks!

PS. Its a 1.2 FWD

Edited by My_Yeti

It's quite normal in any FWD vehicle. Swap front to back at about 50% thread wear and get a longer life.

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Brilliant, thanks! Will ask the garage to change the back to front, but just a little concern about the more wear outside than inside of front tires. I am sure the tyre pressure is right.

It's one of 3 things:-

1) Too little camber angle, but this is most unusual, particularly if the car handles well.

2) Tracking needs adjusted. It's unusual to get both sides out the same way and amount though. In this case, IMO the setting was wrong ex-works.

3) Enthusiastic cornering. You might sort this by putting the tyre pressures up a couple of PSI all round.

You don't mention the mileage, but if it's relatively low and you can see a big difference in wear, I'd suspect something is wrong and it's probably the tracking.

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Hello,

It's on th original GoodYear tyres and I have done around 9200 miles. The tires are still good. The inside have around 5.5mm thread whilst the outside is down to about 4mm. The wear is similar on both with the outside wearing more than the inside.

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It's one of 3 things:-

1) Too little camber angle, but this is most unusual, particularly if the car handles well.

2) Tracking needs adjusted. It's unusual to get both sides out the same way and amount though. In this case, IMO the setting was wrong ex-works.

3) Enthusiastic cornering. You might sort this by putting the tyre pressures up a couple of PSI all round.

Hi, thanks, the car handles fine, no judder at speed or losing grip.

The tracking or alignment was actually done when it was 3000 miles, because the steering wheel was offset to the left (or right, can't remember) from new and was never sorted out until then when I visited a new garage.

Edited by My_Yeti

I have been wondering about chassis set up, as the Octavia seems to benefit big time by having the wheels all aligned properly by somebody like Wheels-In-Motion and as the Yeti is very similar, was wondering if it would benefit from 4 wheel alignment?

sounds like too fast a cornering to me... especially with the roll id suspect you'd get from a yeti??

on my lupo im running about 2.5 degree's of negative camber (wheels pointing in at the top) on the front and it handles like its on rails

sounds like too fast a cornering to me... especially with the roll id suspect you'd get from a yeti??

on my lupo im running about 2.5 degree's of negative camber (wheels pointing in at the top) on the front and it handles like its on rails

What roll???? emoticon-0136-giggle.gif Yeti's don't roll................emoticon-0140-rofl.gif

  • 4 weeks later...

I have done 14,500 miles and decided to swap my tyres today, front-back. I did notice slightly more wear on the outside than the inside but not to a degree that it was worrying. I asked the fitter if there was much difference between the tread front and back and he replied very little, around 1mm. It may seem a little pointless changing them after hearing that but seeing the cost of Yeti 17" tyres every little bit will help. It is the first time I have done this but as I was only charged £15 it seemed worthwhile.

There seems to be plenty of tread left and I am hoping to get them through the summer and replace with All Season tyres come September, ish. Hopefully they will then see me through until the car goes back in July next year.

This is a kind of related question and I don't apologise if it sounds stupid!!

The question is with reference to cambered speed bumps:

If you gauge correctly you can drive over with both tyres either side of the speed bump (left wheel on a camber sloping down to the left, right wheel on a camber sloping down to the right) cambers. Or you could drive slightly to one side with only one wheel going over the speed bump (no camber).

Which method (if any) would have the most effect on knocking out your steering geometry?

According to some experts getting the hump in the middle, as that affects both wheels. Hitting it straight with just one wheel shouldn't do anything.

Always put one wheel over the hump. I have had the inside of a tyre torn by a speed hump that was breaking up at the edges. Honest John has some strong opinions on the subject!

Always put one wheel over the hump. I have had the inside of a tyre torn by a speed hump that was breaking up at the edges. Honest John has some strong opinions on the subject!

Or avoid the road with humps and any nearby businesses until such time as everyone complains to get the b''''y things removed!

The 'Speedhump' - only the British could come up with such a totally barmy idea :thumbdown:

I have to cope with miles and miles of speed bumps around South London. some are easy on the suspension, some are really hard and you need to do 5mph over them....others are fine and gentle.

But as you say, which is best. Big bump with 1 front and rear wheel over them, or straddle them. Or alternate nearside 1 bump, offside next bump, weaving all over the road....emoticon-0140-rofl.gif.

I will even avoid some roads because of the speed humps.

But as somebody said to me a few years ago, if there are speed bumps they lead to somewhere interesting and probably where you want to goemoticon-0140-rofl.gif

  • 4 years later...

Has anyone on this site ever noticed excessive negative camber angle on Yeti rear wheels. I've seen loads of threads about this on Octavias but not the Yeti. Standing back about 10 feet from the back of the car i can actually see the negative camber. I looked at another Yeti in a car park and it was exactly the same as mine. My rear set of Good Years only lasted 20,000 because the inner part of the tread wore down to the canvas due to the camber. Would not have noticed this but for having the car on a ramp to get the Haldex oil changed. Had a reply from one member saying that the rear camber on the Yeti (170 Elegance Year 2010) is adjustable, so will check that out.

My rear set of Good Years only lasted 20,000 because the inner part of the tread wore down to the canvas due to the camber.

Are you sure that was the result of camber, incorrect alignment is probably the biggest cause of that.

Agreed ^^^^^^^^^^^

First thing I would be checking!

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