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That's the thing, real life figures are near impossible, Prius and all the rest never really do what they're suppose to do ! It's a shame as its a good selling point you'll get 83mpg (only occasionally though) miss selling or what !

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3. Yes, mine has only a badge on the back and I believe the GL1 did not have an estate.

2. This sounds like the car is going through a DPF regeneration and the smell and fan is normal, the smell gets less and less over time.

1. Your engine is still running in and the MPG might get better, but due to driving style and terrain you might not get to the 83+ mpg. The official MPG is calculated on the flat under best conditions and is not actually a measure of fuel used but the gases created and then converted to MPG.

Exactly. :thumbup:

Just a point of my own.

1. From new I could only get 68mpg, baring in mind my daily driving does lead to good economy. Not much town work. After 10,000 miles I could get 78mpg (and did by driving carefully over three tanks of fuel) so the engine will loosen up.

So 83 mpg may be possible if you drive carefully, don't go into towns and wait until the engine is well run in.

Fact is most (if not all) Skodas (and many other makes) don't meet the combined mpg figure in real world driving. But it does let you compare one car to another on equal terms. So you may not hit 83mpg, but there is a good chance you'll still get noticably better mpg than if you were driving the 1.6 which is rated at something like 67mpg, suggesting you'd possibly get something like 50mpg from that.

Oh and ignore the gear change indicator, it makes you change up too early. Economy plummets under 1500rpm if you need power to maintain speed, on an uphill stretch etc... The turbo/engine gives best efficiency between 1500rpm and 2000rpm.

Lastly, don't believe the mpg indicator on the display. It can be accurate, but it can also be rather optimistic. When I was getting 68mpg the car thought I was getting 90mpg. It's much more accurate now it's run in, but I still use the fuelly website to track my real world mpg and it is currently at 72mpg over 14,500 miles since I got the car. Not bad in my opinion for a five door estate driven from rural Essex to London for 90% of it's life.

Exactly. :thumbup:

Just a point of my own.

1. From new I could only get 68mpg, baring in mind my daily driving does lead to good economy. Not much town work. After 10,000 miles I could get 78mpg (and did by driving

carefully over three tanks of fuel) so the engine will loosen up.

So 83 mpg may be possible if you drive carefully, don't go into towns and wait until the engine is well run in.

Fact is most (if not all) Skodas (and many other makes) don't meet the combined mpg figure in real world driving. But it does let you compare one car to another on equal

terms. So you may not hit 83mpg, but there is a good chance you'll still get noticably better mpg than if you were driving the 1.6 which is rated at something like 67mpg, suggesting you'd possibly get something like 50mpg from that.

Oh and ignore the gear change indicator, it makes you change up too early. Economy plummets under 1500rpm if you need power to maintain speed, on an uphill stretch etc... The turbo/engine gives best efficiency between 1500rpm and 2000rpm.

Lastly, don't believe the mpg indicator on the display. It can be accurate, but it can also be rather optimistic. When I was getting 68mpg the car thought I was getting 90mpg. It's

much more accurate now it's run in, but I still use the fuelly website to track my real world mpg and it is currently at 72mpg over 14,500 miles since I got the car. Not bad in my opinion for a five door estate driven from rural Essex to London for 90% of it's life.

I always get over 60 mpg from my 1.6 crtdi diesel average is about 64mpg on a run from north Wales to the south of England got 69 mpg ;)

I don't know about the greenline II, but a collegue has the polo bluemotion and get 75mpg ish from it...

manufacturers fugures are hard to match, but I can in my vRS, average 45mpg I can get on every run if I don't go too fast ;) even had it in the 50's by trying hard...

and to OP at 1500 miles its too tight for good MPG, it will improve, at 10k it will be doing the mpg you can expect for the rest of the cars life... (I could only get 35mpg at 1500 miles in the vRS)

I always get over 60 mpg from my 1.6 crtdi diesel average is about 64mpg on a run from north Wales to the south of England got 69 mpg ;)

As I said above, combined figures are representative.

You are getting 64mpg average in a 1.6 and I am getting 72mpg average in a 1.2 GL2. :)

A difference of over 10%, then the gov figures are about 20%.

And that's not allowing for driving style differences, I commute into London every time I drive the car.

Most of us know you personally prefer the 1.6 from previous threads about the Greenline II.

Hi all.

Picked up my Greenline II (arctic green + maxidot) on Saturday. After spending ages in the car (even dragging the wife in for half an hour), I've clocked up 42 miles! I just like sitting in it.

Thanks to Andy for starting this thread. I'd like to share my (very) first impressions.

I've moved up/down from a 3 yr old 1.9 TDI DSG Jetta. I wanted a green car, under the magic 100, with a large boot (still have to ferry kids and luggage all over the country) that cruised well on long journeys. I didn't want to spend a lot of money. I wanted an auto gearbox, but at current technology levels, that's not possible. So compromised and went back to manual. Fab Estate fits the bill (hopefully!).

Sitting in the Fab is like sitting in the Jetta. All controls, and the look and feel, are recognisable. I like them. I'm not a fan of the more 'modern', futuristic Fiesta style consoles.

The 1.2 engine is definitely a change.

It's noisy when first starting, and when taking off in first gear. But after that, it's fine. I can still hear the radio and chat without shouting.

I'm still getting used to driving a manual again, never mind one with unusual gearing.

I find the computer advise as to when to change gear is sometimes good (ie. feels/sounds right), but sometimes not. I suppose it has no idea of the gradient of the road in front, so can only be a guide. Bossfox's post seems to sum it all.

Once moving, it has plenty of power. Very suprising. I'm not a boy racer, but need to move faster sometimes. And the 1.2 is absolutely fine. Not much different than the 1.9.

I notice that once in 4th gear, driving at 30, it's brilliant. Quiet, frugal and just right.

Hopefully, I'll post some more when I've increased my mileage to 100!!

In 3 years even Clarkson will be driving one.

Dave

Well I have had a gl2, sold it a few months ago, I do miss it, mainly the mpg. Now got a vw caddy maxi life bluemotion, with the 1.6crtdi engine, they are pretty similar gearing wise and similarly the vw tells me to change up gear before I should(by my reckoning) and the gl2 did also. Now getting 55mpg instead of 70mpg. New car has a bigger tank, so get the same miles between fill ups, just means I have to pay £70 instead of £55 to fill up. I do find 3rd at 30mph is best, 4th is just a touch too high.

It's houses for courses of course, I think they are both great, depends what suits each person.

A long time ago ( October 2010) in a distant garage a Greenline II was was collected The young (old really) Biskodian after driving home did write a review about the Greenline II.

Unfortunately the Greenline was not faithful and keept breaking down. The young Briskodian did complian to the high council and at some considerable extra cost to the briskodian it was agreed the Greenline was sub standard.

Now awaiting an Elegance 1 6TDI (due Jan) and I will be one of the few who will be able to truly comment on the two engines.

Hi POSitality,

Glad to know the Greenline is serving you well, and racking up the miles nicely!

See you again in the new year for a service I suspect!

Now awaiting an Elegance 1 6TDI (due Jan) and I will be one of the few who will be able to truly comment on the two engines.

I for one am waiting for your unbiased review.

While I have the GL2 for work, my Mum now has the Yeti Greenline II with the same 1.6 engine. And I had the same engine in a Roomster borrowed from the local dealer. Which is pretty much a Fabia anyway.

It is a good engine. More refined than I was expecting.

Let us know what you think Dempsek. :thumbup:

As I said above, combined figures are representative.

You are getting 64mpg average in a 1.6 and I am getting 72mpg average in a 1.2 GL2. :)

A difference of over 10%, then the gov figures are about 20%.

And that's not allowing for driving style differences, I commute into London every time I drive the car.

Most of us know you personally prefer the 1.6 from previous threads about the Greenline II.

Ho boss fox , not strictly true as you know I have 2 fabs one of which is a 1.4 tdi which I think is similar to the greenline? I love it the 3 cylinder it's been berated as a noisy and lacklustre engine, I beg to differ come and sit in the passenger seat when red mist descends ;) the greenline is an awesome package at the moment it's one of the most difficult vehicles to get your hands on so that tells you something, here i wouldn't benefit from a greenline way to hilly the engine would labour and use more fuel, I think it needs a nice smooth road with little or no hills to get the figure, but for me the crtdi is more economical around here, but for the motorway it will use hardly any fuel ;) the greenline makes an excellent motorway cruiser

I for one am waiting for your unbiased review.

While I have the GL2 for work, my Mum now has the Yeti Greenline II with the same 1.6 engine. And I had the same engine in a Roomster borrowed from the local dealer. Which is pretty much a Fabia anyway.

It is a good engine. More refined than I was expecting.

Let us know what you think Dempsek. :thumbup:

It's hilly were I live and I have the popular 105ps version on order, I think I will give my view after running it a bit.

If I could have had a Greenline Yeti I would have, it's had very good reviews.

It's hilly were I live and I have the popular 105ps version on order, I think I will give my view after running it a bit.

If I could have had a Greenline Yeti I would have, it's had very good reviews.

Dempsek you'll love it on the hills, pulls like a train ;)

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A few months away from a year's driving and I have about 14,000 miles on the clock. Thought I'd throw in a couple of comments on the experience so far...

Brilliant! Defintely (as a works vehicle) the best car I've had so far. Although I'm sure there are cars that are a touch more economical on fuel I don't think there's so many in Estate/Combi style.

The only thing I can comment on over my previous posts is faults: I had a minor problem with an exhaust temperature sensor that cropped up twice. I believe by the second time Skoda got on top of it and issued one of their advisories to dealers. Anyhoo, no faults that actually have stopped me driving.

A nod to Allams here: fantastic service! If all Skoda dealers were even half as good as these guys I'd wonder why anyone would buy a car from other manufacturers. I've always been treated extremely well and always got the impression they "pull out all the stops" to get things done. Our company will definitely be getting another Skoda soon. Hopefully we won't have to wait too long for the economy to pick up a bit :(

Also, very reasonably parts and service charges. After the main service I said to one of my fellow directors: "This is why I chose Skoda, I'd rather have 3 years of quality servicing than a 7 year warranty that's not worth the paper it's written on!"

NB the Kia 7 year warranty I'm thinking of is no such thing. 7 years or 100,000 miles... which I'll probably do in 5 years, maybe 4!

Great car, great dealers, great experience!

Thanks Skoda

the greenline makes an excellent motorway cruiser

I've asked on a few threads what owners are getting at motorway speeds 70 to 75mph indicated and the common response is just over 50mpg

Looks like you need to drop with the lorries at 55 to 60mph to get towards 70mpg.

For someone like me who uses the motorway network daily that isn't great for an economy special. It's easily beaten by bigger engined more aerodynamic cars in the VAG range.

I think the greenline is great for urban and A road use but not best suited for higher speed motorway use.

Cheers

Lee

Bigger more powerful Diesel engines give better MPG on motorways as they are running at much lower revs and less stress.My remapped 1.9PD returns low 60s mpg at 70-75mph and 70+ mpg at 60mph,around town the economy could be better though at around 50mpg.

The downfall for bigger diesel's will be higher road tax and insurance also they are possibly less economical around town.

just waiting for mine now, apparently about 4 weeks away :)

good to see the mpg figures you guys are getting, also interesting the point about drinking fuel below 1500rpm with little power, as used to driving a pd105 roomster or pd130 mk1 vrs

I've asked on a few threads what owners are getting at motorway speeds 70 to 75mph indicated and the common response is just over 50mpg

Looks like you need to drop with the lorries at 55 to 60mph to get towards 70mpg.

For someone like me who uses the motorway network daily that isn't great for an economy special. It's easily beaten by bigger engined more aerodynamic cars in the VAG range.

I think the greenline is great for urban and A road use but not best suited for higher speed motorw

I would disagree with that, although I don't regularly get above 70mph in mine, I am fairly regularly sitting between 60-65 (mainly due to traffic) and get way more than 50... I have to really thrash mine to get it to drop below 60mph on my 67 mile trip to work.

I would say that the lower mpg is down to driver rather than car... As I had a Octavia when mine was in for a service and found that once at cruising speed it was showing 70 ish... But even think of touching the power and I'd plumeted.

I would say that VAG engines get better with miles. My 1.4 PD tdi having just ticked over 60k regularly gets over 65 MPG on a 70mph motorway run and on a recent trip of 120 miles averaged 74mpg.

The fuel consumption increases very rapidly with speed - at least on my Greenline II Estate. Maybe more so than other cars - which I think is more due to the poor aerodynamics than the small engine myself.

However, it can give fantastic results around around town and on A-roads.

I would disagree with that, although I don't regularly get above 70mph in mine, I am fairly regularly sitting between 60-65 (mainly due to traffic) and get way more than 50... I have to really thrash mine to get it to drop below 60mph on my 67 mile trip to work.

From the 3 Fabia's I've owned and a couple more I've had on loan I'd say there is quite a difference in economy averaging 60-65mph than there is to averaging 70-75mph.

The most noticable being the 1.2 HTP that will drop 10mpg between those speeds.

I'm on a quest to find the most economical high speed car if there is such a thing. On my way home I keep up with outside line traffic which in a parallel universe and definately not the M1 do 70-85mph. Last week even with aircon I was breaking 50mpg in the Passat (80mph = 2400rpm), if I end up taking the htp it will happily run over 70mph but drops below 40mpg in the process (80mph = 4000rpm). The 7 Speed TSi isn't as bad but speed hurts it too (80mph = 2750rpm), I think the Fabia must have pretty poor aerodynamics.

I have tried some of the newer bluemotion VW's with very tall gearing where 80mph is nearer 2000rpm but they are no better than my current Passat, I expect at 80mph aerodynamics have a greater effect than gearing.

Cheers

Lee

Edited by logiclee

The Yeti suffers greatly with speed as well. Steady motorway 70ish mph will give around 43mpg, but drop to 60mph and it will increase to about 50mpg.<br />On 40/50mph roads that are flattish it will get up to 55/60mpg. <br />I can't afford to drive it on the motorway at illegal speeds, which will also save my driving licence!<br />And this is from a 4x4 DSG remapped CR140 with about 100bhp more than the fabia greenline estate I have at the moment as a courtesy car. <br /><br />The engine is very rough, my Triumph triple sounded better! The gears are very high. Some 2nd gear left turns up hills have necessitated 1st gear otherwise it will just die on me. <br />It is very economical though and the tax is slightly less than my £195 for this year :cough:<br />I might consider one if they did a DSG version, but probably the 1.6TDI with DSG would be better for me. Just wish they all came with stop/start.

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