i have just come across this air intake kit and was wondering if anyone has one? do you think it is a good idea or a waste of money?

Lol a pipe with a filter on the end :-)

Thats all it is and you and get a cai off ebay for 45 ish and the get a good k&n filter for it and save loads.

Could not see it on ebay anymore but a quick google and http://www.toyosports.co.uk/cold-air-induction-intake-18t-golfjettagti--octavia-3999-519-p.asp

Same as mine and works fine.

Edited 23 August, 201114 yr by JackDeath

I'd spent it on something else.

Massive power increases? Fantastic throttle responses? My arse.

Edited 23 August, 201114 yr by Liverpool-Lad

I'd spent it on something else.

Massive power increases? Fantastic throttle responses? My arse.

thanks, i thought it was a bit overpriced and far fetched myself.

Lol a pipe with a filter on the end :-)

Thats all it is and you and get a cai off ebay for 45 ish and the get a good k&n filter for it and save loads.

Could not see it on ebay anymore but a quick google and http://www.toyosports.co.uk/cold-air-induction-intake-18t-golfjettagti--octavia-3999-519-p.asp

Same as mine and works fine.

thanks, has it made any difference? does it make the sound of the turbo spooling up louder and the recirc valve louder?

Yes you get the Recyle sounds.

and when you change to 2nd on a hill a bit sooner the sound of the turbo sucking all that air in dose put a :-) on your face.

As for any boost in performance i would say some but no anything to right home about.

More a cosmetic thing.

Unless your going all the way and changing turbos and intakes and all that :-) then it would help more having it.

Edited 23 August, 201114 yr by JackDeath

As I have said before... I can't see this being any different from putting a 3" feed to the current box, taking out the pannel filter and adding a cone filter to the 3" feed. In principle it is the same Idea and you know that VAG has designed the box to keep the heat out and to hold the SAI pump feed and the MAF and if anyone looks under the bonnet it is still stock.

How would you fit a cone filter in the airbox? There's no where to fix it to the maf? May aswell put a panel filter in and be done with it.

How would you fit a cone filter in the airbox? There's no where to fix it to the maf? May aswell put a panel filter in and be done with it.

at the end of the 3" induction tubing, basically the same way you would with a CAI

MAF > Airbox > 3" duction > Cone filter bitter at the bottom of the bumper attach to the duction tubing

I have one. It's basically a carbonio with px badge

It's carbon fibre so looks really nice and as said you will get a farely loud sucking sound on intake and I'd you have a 007 valve or similar you will get a nice dump whoosh on let off

I bought mine second hand and wouldn't pay that price there to be honest

Dave

at the end of the 3" induction tubing, basically the same way you would with a CAI

MAF > Airbox > 3" duction > Cone filter bitter at the bottom of the bumper attach to the duction tubing

That's funny!

And the point of that would be?

What would it achieve that putting a panel filter in wouldn't? It's not gonna give any better performance/noise or filtration.

But each to there own I suppose.

That's funny!

And the point of that would be?

What would it achieve that putting a panel filter in wouldn't? It's not gonna give any better performance/noise or filtration.

But each to there own I suppose.

Thats what I am saying, how can that be any different to using a CAI? Same principle as a CAI. Just everything is already in place and you don't have to spend £230 on a bit of pipe. SO you might as well get a £5 worth of duction tubing and run it to the front bumper and save the dollar for something that will do more.

Its non comparable.

The cai replaces the airbox which is what there all about, a smoother/COLDER flow of air direct to the maf and there a bit noisier. Loose bhp but gain torque (or the other way round).

Puttin a cone on the end of some flexible cold air pipe and leavin the airbox in place isn't gonna do anything!.......or maybe if you fit a panel filter aswell you'll get twice the performance

Edited 23 August, 201114 yr by sivrs

Why put a 3" pipe into the std box and then a filter on the end, that will prob loose power plus if the pipe is flexi you may find that when the filter gets clogged youll end up sucking the pipe up and collapsing it.

On the old style TIP that were all Rubber iirc they used to collaps, there is a vid of it somewhere. they they modified it so the lower part was metal and the upper was rubber to try stop this.

Just adding the CAI will only make the sound of the turbo and DV louder. Thats all no other gains at all infact it will prob loose a few torques.

To get the most out of it you need a TIP as the std one is really small(fingers dont fit into it) also a turbo back zorst to get the turbo to spool faster and sooner

then a custom remap to get the most out of all of it.

if your not doing that then a pannel filter in the std box is the best thing to have.

This lot cost me around £60ish mark and thats the EBAY CAI pipe, K&N filter and some new black silicone hoses and stainless clamps and the black paint

I got the CAI a few years ago and ive had it on n off countless times trying to get a good feel in the car. with all the mods I have the std box just isnt good enough even with a good filter in it and more air. the CAI makes the throttle more responsive and there is no hesitation now was before due to a restrictive section in my Longlife zorst but they have now sorted it and that has got rid of the gas buildup lol.

Dont waist your money on one of them kits, get the ebay pipe and paint it or get the carbon wrap crap lol if thats what your into.

billy

edit:

the ebay ones have a small pipe off the main intake for the SAI unlike the Carbonio or ABD ones that are £200+ iirc which you need to use a small filter on the SAI and cable tie it somwhere.

this has just been covered too as I posted these pics in it and one of the kit before I tarted it up

De-fin the standard air box, fit a K&N panel filter, then do the 3" cold air feed pipe from behind the N/S lower bumper trim (cut away the little triangular bits), oh and re-fit the dump valve to the cold side of the inter-cooler (by the throttle body)otherwise your just sucking in warm air again that's been recirculated (cold air good, warm air bad,especially where turbo cars are concerned) .

Lots of cold air, well filtered + looks like a standard air box system, unless you want to impress the Clio boys down at McDonald's, in which case just stick a cone filter on the end of the AFM (which by the way will actually reduce your engine output!)

Keep the standard air box (as it is already cold air fed) change the paper filter more often and you will get a more consistent power figure, no issues down the line and no warranty grief.

Keep the standard air box (as it is already cold air fed) change the paper filter more often and you will get a more consistent power figure, no issues down the line and no warranty grief.

True...

Who still has a MK 1 VRS in Warranty these days. Well Dealer Warranty that is.

Quick question.

I have one of the Toyo / ebay induction kits to fit now, was looking tonight at a few things, the lower air vent from what I understand needs drilling out thats is fine but I cannot help but notice that with the horns etc the vent hole is very small will it be ok or have people moved other parts.

I Have left my std grill as is and its spot on, I found with the Milotec grills the filter got really dirty really fast but this way just prolongs the time

The horns also help frotect the filter a bit.

Quick question.

I have one of the Toyo / ebay induction kits to fit now, was looking tonight at a few things, the lower air vent from what I understand needs drilling out thats is fine but I cannot help but notice that with the horns etc the vent hole is very small will it be ok or have people moved other parts.

I have the ABD CAI and i have Milotec grill, before that i vented the std grill, yes the is a horn there but not really that in the way. I bent the horn bracket down a tad to help, but not really needed. I did cut out the corner triangle part of the bumper(bit not seen behind grill)

few pics of the corner area cut( and a cold feed pipe that i used when i had std airbox, not there now.)

I Have left my std grill as is and its spot on, I found with the Milotec grills the filter got really dirty really fast but this way just prolongs the time

The horns also help frotect the filter a bit.

Billy get more air it there buddy, I still only clean mine once every 6 months.

Way back when I joined the site I remember Eddy H who had a huge power(460ish) mk1 octavia did a test between std box and cai's.

Guess which won .......Std smoothed air box with a degauzed maf housing, the cai iirc suffered from heatsoak.

Just saying, not looking for lesson in thermo dynamics lol

I will prob get some mew Milotec grills at some point But not spending on it now, just gonna run it.

Heat soak on the CAI surprises me.

Way back when I joined the site I remember Eddy H who had a huge power(460ish) mk1 octavia did a test between std box and cai's.

Guess which won .......Std smoothed air box with a degauzed maf housing, the cai iirc suffered from heatsoak.

Just saying, not looking for lesson in thermo dynamics lol

Was the Heak soak on a bog std cone filter stuck on a MAF or a proper CAI..

Heak soak on a CAI does surprise me too.

I have ran all sorts of Airbox variants and CAI's on mine and although not done any real RR tests(so won't pass theromo tests over )

shorter trumpet

3" feed

std panel filter

Green panel

variants of all above and the CAI seems better on mine.

Not tried airbox with the MAF mesh gauze removed though?? now that is another one to add to try..

Can you remove the gauze without having to break it off? Not likely to get damaged without the gauze is it?

Can you remove the gauze without having to break it off? Not likely to get damaged without the gauze is it?

Yes you can, it is clipped in. You need to just lever it out with a fine flat screwdriver(carefully)

Don't see why the MAF would be damaged as it is protected. Should not be getting anything past the filter to cause damage.