No idea why it is cross, I wouldn't be because it looks much better than the ASX on which it is based.

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/new-models/2011-09/citroen-announce-c4-aircross/

But it's French!!

And the only good things to come out of France are cheese and wine.

Oh and Calvados

I'll get my coat!

But it's French!!

And the only good things to come out of France are cheese and wine.

Oh and Calvados

The diesel ASX has rediculously short service interval of either 1 yr or 9000 miles. So for anyone wanting a diesel due to the milage they do they will be stung withh excessive numbers of services. For me it would be 2.5 serviced a year.

I guess Citroen will address this.

I'll get my coat!

I don't know how my text got in the quote box!!

OOOPS

Next enemy will be Peugeot 4008.

Strewth, Loskie, I'd be getting it serviced every 23 weeks!!!!

I have my SM serviced every 9500 miles........as I'm on fixed servicing

I think it might be using the PSA 1.6 diesel, so much longer sevice interval.

I had voted on Johann's thread before getting to the bottom of it and realising I had to come here. I think Citroen have been quite cute here. They have let Mitsubishi use their 4wd skills to create this car, allowed them to make mistakes (see the ASX forum for some VERY unhappy people) and now they will come in with the problems resolved, add a touch of design flair and an aggressive marketing campaign no doubt.

I think this will do very well. A couple of people at work have had Citroen's and whilst the finish has not been as good as a Skoda, C5 apart, they do give great value and I think they design good looking cars.

A few years ago people said the days of the standard hatchback were over as people went to mini people carriers. Now they are saying the same with these cars. Part of it is fashion but it is a growing market and you can't blame companies for wanting a piece of it. Hopefully it will create competition and keep standards high and prices low.

I had voted on Johann's thread before getting to the bottom of it and realising I had to come here. I think Citroen have been quite cute here. They have let Mitsubishi use their 4wd skills to create this car, allowed them to make mistakes (see the ASX forum for some VERY unhappy people) and now they will come in with the problems resolved, add a touch of design flair and an aggressive marketing campaign no doubt.

I think this will do very well. A couple of people at work have had Citroen's and whilst the finish has not been as good as a Skoda, C5 apart, they do give great value and I think they design good looking cars.

A few years ago people said the days of the standard hatchback were over as people went to mini people carriers. Now they are saying the same with these cars. Part of it is fashion but it is a growing market and you can't blame companies for wanting a piece of it. Hopefully it will create competition and keep standards high and prices low.

Pray tell....... why are the ASX people so unhappy?

I think this will do well too. The current Outlander based Pugs and Citroëns are too big to really compete in the Yeti class. On price they are too expensive and the third row seating is a joke. So too big for a Yeti competitor and yet too small for a real Disco competitor!

I went to the Frankfurt motor show just now and sat in the new DS5...... a huge car with even more overt styling than this one. Inside it is well OTT as well but they are trying a bit hard. AND they are using the same old suppliers. So it has the design flair (if you like that sort of in your face interior design) but the quality is really not there at all. Then I walked around to check the price. €47,000!!!!!! Yes for a Citroën with a so-so French interior!!!!!!!!!! I laughed and walked away.

I really like the idea of the DS5, but I have to say this looks much better.

The ASX has big problems with the DPF that they are still struggling to resolve. They are also not getting near to the mpg quoted, one of the selling points of the ASX is good mpg. Those are the main two but there also seem to be niggly faults requiring updates that should have been resolved before the car was put on the market.

I have no doubt all will be resolved, certainly by the time the Citroen model comes out, but the early buyers have been stung.

The Mitsubishi 4wd heritage is a good one but it looks as though they rushed this out without proper testing. Solving issues on the hoof is not good for customer service or reputation.

Recent test of ASX, Yeti and Vitara: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.autobild.es%2Fpruebas%2Fcomparativa-mitsubishi-asx-skoda-yeti-suzuki-grand-vitara-168165

At least the Pug version is a bit more toned down:

I believe Peugeot will not release this in the European market as they say they have that covered already by the 3008. I think this is for the Far East and China in particular.

I believe Peugeot will not release this in the European market as they say they have that covered already by the 3008. I think this is for the Far East and China in particular.

I prefer the ASX clone to the 3008 (or the blob). It has to be one of the most unexciting Cross-Over out there.

Inside it is well OTT as well but they are trying

That low centre console reminds of the coke can on a stalk that Visas used to have for auxiliary controls. I don't think much of it personally, but at least it someone seems to be experimenting with innovative ways to manage umpteen electric bells and whistles without overloading the steering column stalks.

The current C5 has so many buttons on the steering wheel that it is quite overwhelming. That is a trap that is easy to fall into and so any mfr that can avoid that has done well. I think the Yeti has a good balance on the steering wheel, just enough but not too much.

On this website they have a poll to vote for which of the three look best, Pug, Mitsu or Cit...

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2011/10/poll-mirror-mirror-on-wall-which-is.html?

And it is clearly NOT the ugly Mitsubishi.

Another 'late to the party' offering - this time from Honda.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/276766/honda_civic_suv_on_way.html?CMP=NLC-Newsletters&uid=5cbd2a1e3dcd55e98382a7df06ea6815

ugly.

Didn't they have a small SUV called the HRV in the past. Much better looking than the Civic Crossover.

ugly.

Didn't they have a small SUV called the HRV in the past. Much better looking than the Civic Crossover.

Yep and they called it the "Joy Machine" aiming at the 'younger' market. HRV actually stood for High Rider Vehicle. Had one back in 2001, a 1.6 petrol automatic.( non V-tec) Still see a few of them around, discontinued in 2006. All petrol, no oil burners.

Yep and they called it the "Joy Machine" aiming at the 'younger' market. HRV actually stood for High Rider Vehicle. Had one back in 2001, a 1.6 petrol automatic.( non V-tec) Still see a few of them around, discontinued in 2006. All petrol, no oil burners.

I like them - simple design, well executed. They also made them in a coupé version:

Hopefully the Civic version mentioned above will look more restrained and like a new take on the HR-V rather than the jacked up spaceship AutoExpress is suggesting...

I like the HRV! Economical engine, part-time 4x4, looks might be a marmite thing, but overall package is good and last time I look, they start from less than £1k on autotrader.

They did an updated version called the crossroad

Anyway, I thought the CRV was based on the Civic anyway.

I like the HRV! Economical engine, part-time 4x4, looks might be a marmite thing, but overall package is good and last time I look, they start from less than £1k on autotrader.

They did an updated version called the crossroad

Anyway, I thought the CRV was based on the Civic anyway.

Might as well buy a Ford Fusion on which my then 12 year old son commented (when I worked for Ford): "Dad, what's this car for - when you could have a perfectly good Fiesta for the same money. Tell them to give you back your Puma instantly".