Hi all,

As part of my recent mission to upgrade my vrs I would like to uprate the intercooler.

I keep reading on other threads about the seat cupra intercooler (£300?) and forge pipes (£200?) but wondered if it would be perfectly acceptable just to get a universal one off eBay for around £70?

Also is there any skill to fitting them besides bolting them on and making sure the pipes fit?

How do they work?

Thanks in advance

Mark1983

I`ll not pass judgement on the intercooler`s themselves, since I have only read about them. But plenty have fitted them, its just down to how easy you`ll be able make the pipework up, lots of measuring and fabricating involved from a mate`s experience doing it.

I`ll not pass judgement on the intercooler`s themselves, since I have only read about them. But plenty have fitted them, its just down to how easy you`ll be able make the pipework up, lots of measuring and fabricating involved from a mate`s experience doing it.

Um, well obviously here speaks the voice of total inexperience, but surely making the pipes fit would be easy if you could just source some silicon elbows?

That's why I ask how they work, is there some hidden reason why people have trouble, like the pipes not having to turn to many corners etc??

Lol, I clearly have no idea what I'm talking about here but maybe someone can enlighten me?? :-)

Makes you wonder why people buy the forge kit when its so easy eh.

Hi all,

As part of my recent mission to upgrade my vrs I would like to uprate the intercooler.

I keep reading on other threads about the seat cupra intercooler (£300?) and forge pipes (£200?) but wondered if it would be perfectly acceptable just to get a universal one off eBay for around £70?

Also is there any skill to fitting them besides bolting them on and making sure the pipes fit?

How do they work?

Thanks in advance

Mark1983

Hard to say mate, the joys of the forge is that its been developed as a bolt on upgrade, so everything measured, intake tempretures tested etc... etc...

There is no reason why a universal one wouldnt do the job. However you need to ensure fixings are correct. And more importantly pipework is correct. Then you need to find out the quality of the intercoolers that you would buying. Or attempting to steal off another car.

anything can be done but mess it up and get it wrong, it will cost you more £££'s setting it up and getting it right. Rather than paying a few quid extra from the start and not having to worry that it wont fit, quality, mountings etc....

If you do go ahead keep a diary on the website mate, would love to see how you get on

Makes you wonder why people buy the forge kit when its so easy eh.

Do forge do a kit specifically for the vrs?

Do forge do a kit specifically for the vrs?

Check out there website mate

This was posted by someone on here a while back and im sure they will let themselves be known at some point! So credit goes to them!

right this will be miles better than the forge kit......

i'll number the items in the order they go... this will get you from the turbo right through

working away from the turbo....

1. 90 degree silicone bend 50mm

2. 80 degree stainless bend 50mm

3. Long silicone 50mm coupler (around 250mm long)

4. 90 degree stainless bend 50 mm

5. reducer from 57mm - 50mm.....

Intercooler ( i believe its 57mm outlets, but you should measure to confirm, may be 64mm)

6. reducer 57mm - 50mm

7. 45 degree stainless bend 50mm

8. straight coupler 50mm

9. 90 degree stainless / aluminium map sensor pipe (possibly phone up forge and get this item seperately?) or get a 90 stainless bend and get somewhere to make you a mounting point

10. 45 degree silicone reducer bend 50mm - 57mm

11. vRS Dovit top stainless intercooler pipe 57mm

12. 57mm 90 degree silicone bend

13. jabbasport 57mm egr delete

that will be miles better than the forge kit

This might help

http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/product.php?xProd=5267&xSec=283

This was posted by someone on here a while back and im sure they will let themselves be known at some point! So credit goes to them!

right this will be miles better than the forge kit......

i'll number the items in the order they go... this will get you from the turbo right through

working away from the turbo....

1. 90 degree silicone bend 50mm

2. 80 degree stainless bend 50mm

3. Long silicone 50mm coupler (around 250mm long)

4. 90 degree stainless bend 50 mm

5. reducer from 57mm - 50mm.....

Intercooler ( i believe its 57mm outlets, but you should measure to confirm, may be 64mm)

6. reducer 57mm - 50mm

7. 45 degree stainless bend 50mm

8. straight coupler 50mm

9. 90 degree stainless / aluminium map sensor pipe (possibly phone up forge and get this item seperately?) or get a 90 stainless bend and get somewhere to make you a mounting point

10. 45 degree silicone reducer bend 50mm - 57mm

11. vRS Dovit top stainless intercooler pipe 57mm

12. 57mm 90 degree silicone bend

13. jabbasport 57mm egr delete

that will be miles better than the forge kit

Why an egr delete for an uprated intercooler

BecAuse it will eliminate all the s*** that gets though into the standard inter cooler

BecAuse it will eliminate all the s*** that gets though into the standard inter cooler

I was always under the impression that what it lets through is very very very minimal, and causes no real concern. And if anything removing a part that is quiet integral to the orginal engines operation can be worse.

Has anyone on the forum ever had a failure from the egr itself? Am aware that they can be prone to cavity build off, if not treated.

I made the list yonks ago

Egr delete gives a better connection

I made the list yonks ago

Egr delete gives a better connection

There you go!

Do forge do a kit specifically for the vrs?

Yeah they do but its Summat like £627

Yeah they do but its Summat like £627

Jeez, that's a lot of wedge for a few bits of old scaffold tube... Personally I would go for the option the op has suggested, buy a cheap universal fit cooler and make my own pipework up from ready made elbows, I reckon it could be done for less than £200. However it's not all that easy for a novice to work with so a bolt extortion kit.. Sorry I mean intercooler kit might be appealing to other folk.

Yup its not soo easy to fit a custom kit

You need to be pretty handy!

I wish when i did mine i was a pipefitted with a bending machine, would have saved me a fortune and been a hell of a lot easier

Hi all,

As part of my recent mission to upgrade my vrs I would like to uprate the intercooler.

I keep reading on other threads about the seat cupra intercooler (£300?) and forge pipes (£200?) but wondered if it would be perfectly acceptable just to get a universal one off eBay for around £70?

Also is there any skill to fitting them besides bolting them on and making sure the pipes fit?

How do they work?

Thanks in advance

Mark1983

Really it's the pipework that's most of the issue. You can buy a MAP sensor pipe from Forge, or a flange to get welded from several places. Cheapest would be to buy a MAP sensor flange/boss, then a pipework kit and intercooler from eBay.

Downtime and planning time to get it all to fit is the main issue. I do find it galling that there appears to be no "budget" aftermarket scene for VAG intercoolers. In Impreza circles, you spend £350 on an HDI kit that will cheerfully run >500HP.

J.

Egr delete gives a better connection

You can buy a bayonet style coupling from forge that will allow you to connect a silicone pipe to the existing EGR, I can vouch for them as I've yet to have any problems with mine.

Yeah they do but its Summat like £627

Forge are forum sponsors and it's worth contacting them through the PM system for a much better price than the list price.

Awesome-GTi do a decent discount over list as well I seem to recall.

Thanks for all your input guys, im stil yet to find out how it works tho??

Is the idea just to get a bigger one than you currently have?

Is it possible to go TOO big? Not physical size wise but in terns of it won't work with the car for some reason

Bigger and mounted at the front to get cooler quicker. You`ll not get much bigger than the seat sport since there isnt that much room tbh

Which car actually is the seat sport anyway?

Surely u mean the cupra Ibiza, I've not heard it called sport before? :-S

Also can I mayb nick a Leon cupra intercooler or is it just the Ibiza sizes that work?? :-)

Seat sport is just seat's name for their sporty parts. Seat sport strut brace, seat sport brakes, seat sport intercooler etc etc. in this case, the cooler is from a Ibiza. You could use a Ibiza one and then make your own pipes. People use the Ibiza one because it fits well and forge make the pipes ready to go.

Pm damian at dpm perforance for forge pipework