Chaps!

Just enquiring, do skoda dealerships change the waterpump when they do the timing belt? I would of thought yes but does anyone know for certain?

Cheers,

Chris

Chaps!

Just enquiring, do skoda dealerships change the waterpump when they do the timing belt? I would of thought yes but does anyone know for certain?

Cheers,

Chris

I was quoted for this last week, they do not usually change the Waterpump but can do so for an extra £35 ish (just the cost of the part)

Without the waterpump Yeovil Skoda quoted me £305ish inc VAT for a cambelt change.

Hope this helps.

Edited 1 November, 201114 yr by T3RRY

I was quoted for this last week, they do not usually change the Waterpump but can do so for an extra £35 ish (just the cost of the part)

Without the waterpump Yeovil Skoda quoted me £305ish for a cambelt change.

Hope this helps.

Hmm, well i'm seriously think of buying a vRS (just need to fill out the v5 with the current owner).

However I don't think the waterpump was changed when the cambelt was done, at 70K. (its at 76K now).

The service was carried out at yeovil skoda too..

What are your thoughts?

I was at my local Skoda dealership today asking about a timing belt change.

They also said if I wanted the pump done then it would just be the price of the part extra, no added labour. Their price for the belt change was £269+vat

I was at my local Skoda dealership today asking about a timing belt change.

They also said if I wanted the pump done then it would just be the price of the part extra, no added labour. Their price for the belt change was £269+vat

Ah okay! say the waterpump was done, it wouldnt be in the service book would it? I guess I would need to check the reciept..

Ah okay! say the waterpump was done, it wouldnt be in the service book would it? I guess I would need to check the reciept..

Check the receipt, or at a stretch they may have it on their records at the dealer that did the job. My guess is if it wasn't requested or noted, it wasn't done.

I pull a foul face when discussing water pumps. You used to be able to buy third party versions with metal blades, much better than the OEM all plastic ones. But all of sudden you can't get them anymore, and third party versions are only able to stock plastic versions... :wonder:

Edited 1 November, 201114 yr by Tim_GTi

Check the receipt, or at a stretch they may have it on their records at the dealer that did the job. My guess is if it wasn't requested or noted, it wasn't done.

I pull a foul face when discussing water pumps. You used to be able to buy third party versions with metal blades, much better than the OEM all plastic ones. But all of sudden you can't get them anymore, and third party versions are only able to stock plastic versions... :wonder:

Okay cheers mate!

Say it hasnt been done, how much of a problem is it?

Okay cheers mate!

Say it hasnt been done, how much of a problem is it?

It's not so much problem,, just an annoyance as it's a part that could fail.

Not much you can do unless you fancy paying to get it replaced. I don't know if there's a way to check if the water pump is performing OK without getting it all out.

It's not so much problem,, just an annoyance as it's a part that could fail.

Not much you can do unless you fancy paying to get it replaced. I don't know if there's a way to check if the water pump is performing OK without getting it all out.

Okay, lets take worst case scenario.. What damage will it cause to the engine if the waterpump fails?

Then it won't pump coolant around your engine, and everything overheats. I don't know what physical parts are prone to immediate failure after this, but it wouldn't be good!

My car did 8 years on the stock OE plastic waterpump and it was fine when it was replaced.

I got it replaced because of the horror stories you hear about it going. But, as I said, the pump was fine after 8 years work and Skoda don't say they'd advise to change it with the cambelt change. I do think it may be a bit of an urban legend - worth changing if you're getting the cambelt done, but considering the labour to change a £35 part, I'm not sure it's worth doing specifically? (That said, I'm sure the damage done if the plastic impeller does disintegrate and distribute itself around the system is also a chunk of cash...)

My car did 8 years on the stock OE plastic waterpump and it was fine when it was replaced.

I got it replaced because of the horror stories you hear about it going. But, as I said, the pump was fine after 8 years work and Skoda don't say they'd advise to change it with the cambelt change. I do think it may be a bit of an urban legend - worth changing if you're getting the cambelt done, but considering the labour to change a £35 part, I'm not sure it's worth doing specifically? (That said, I'm sure the damage done if the plastic impeller does disintegrate and distribute itself around the system is also a chunk of cash...)

I think I may be worrying over nothing, If I see the engine temp rise or get worrying I will obviously pull over and get it looked at, and at that point I shall have the waterpump changed. I don't really see much point in changing it now and paying £200 odd quid for the laybour..

The water pumps do fail....get them changed defo every second belt change.....if you can afford it....do every belt change as just cost of part.

The reason the pump fails is that with the heating up and cooling down of the coolant the plastic impellor blade cracks and comes of the brass bit on the spindle. Then the impellor disintegrates! People started fitting metal blade impelors...then they started sticking (or a bit causes it to stick)..but then they stick solid and the belt keeps moving (gets striped) causing valve/piston comtact!!!!. So replace water pump with OEM when belt changed..........= piece of mind......and relax!!

Edited 1 November, 201114 yr by fabdavrav

Chaps!

Just enquiring, do skoda dealerships change the waterpump when they do the timing belt? I would of thought yes but does anyone know for certain?

Cheers,

Chris

Firstly I'm pretty sure it's actually 4 years/75,000 miles (i.e. 120k km) rather than 4 years/60,000 miles.

Secondly Skoda dealer advice seems to change. When my 2004 vRS had its belt changed in 2008 I mentioned the potential water pump change and the garage at that time suggested the water pump WASN'T changed.

However when I had the belt changed on my 2007vRS in 2011 the same garage - though a different person - recommended I DID have the water pump replaced. The pump was £34.91 ex vat - not sure whether they charged extra for fitting or not.

Just had my belt and tensioners replaced at Alex Lawrie here in Liverpool - they don't replace the waterpump too but they did check it and said it looked OK and didn't need replacing unless I really wanted it. They offered to replace it for an extra £50 but I said no. I'll get it changed on the 2nd belt change if I still have the car in another 4 years.

Firstly I'm pretty sure it's actually 4 years/75,000 miles (i.e. 120k km) rather than 4 years/60,000 miles.

It used to be only changed by mileage (not sure how many, but more than 60k), no time limit. They then changed to to 60k and added the 4 year time limit because of failures due to age.

So, the Timing Belt (or Toothed belt in book) should be changed every 60k miles or 4 years, whichever comes first and has been like that for a while.

I accept it USED to be just 60,000 miles.

I have "FABIASMR.XLS" - a spreadsheet covering service costs for fleet vehicles - downloaded from Skoda's website on 15/5/2005 and "Serviceguide.xls" - an electronic copy of the Skoda service sheet - downloaded on 06/06/2005 - both these show just 60,000 miles with no time limit.

However my car's Service Book dated 2006 clearly states replacement at 120,000 km - that translates to 74564.5 miles (and the tensioner pulley is at 240,000 km).

So are we saying that Skoda changed it from 60k to 75k in 2006 and then back again at some more recent date?

Can anyone provide documentary evidence of the 4 year limit or the mileage criterion (I realise this has been asked before but clearly it's still confusing many people)

Interestingly I've just discovered this at the Skoda website:

"...we recommend genuine Å KODA parts to Å KODA car owners. The guaranteed high quality of the materials used and the precise production process has enabled, for example, an extension of the interval for changing a timing belt on a Fabia with a 1.9 TDI PD/74kW engine from 90,000 km to 120,000 km."

At least that confirms the 120,000 km/ 75,000 mile interval for Fabias with the lower powered 1.9 engine.

Then there's this:

Å KODA Service - Timing Belt

Why have your timing belt checked?

Your timing belt is the most important maintenance item in your engine. Think of your timing belt as the conductor of the complex mechanical orchestra that is your car’s engine. If things don’t happen just at the right time, the whole piece is thrown off.

Timing belts should be replaced after 120,000km for diesel vehicles and 90,000km for petrol vehicles.*

The timing belt is vital to your ŠKODA’S health. It’s important to keep an eye on it - an expert’s eye! That’s why our authorised ŠKODA Retailers are offering a timing belt replacement, including water pump, for diesel and petrol cars, at very competitive prices.

*Mileage may vary depending on model. Contact your local Å KODA retailer for more information.

Edited 2 November, 201114 yr by DRJ