Just wondering what a standard pd150 turbo how much bhp can it run

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190, maybe 200 with a FMIC.

190, maybe 200 with a FMIC.

Would it be a safe 200bhp? Genuine question as i got a pd150 turbo at home debating hybriding it or just keeping it stock at a safe 200 bhp .

Might just run a standard pd150 for a bit then is that safe at 200bhp

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Sorry t hijack but what can a standard pd130 take?

People tend to map them to 160 - 170bhp mate

Ok kool sounds safe cheers

People reckon the golfs with them and a stock fmic can get to about 190 I think. I think the consensus is 200 isn't doable, or won't last long if it is!

PD130 will map to 170, PD150 will map to 190 both safe figures. 180/200 respectively is pushing it in my experience

My Leon PD150 (so ARL engine including the standard FMIC which PD150s got over 130s) mapped to 186-196 depending on rollers. Lack of FMIC probably wouldn't make any difference this time of year but would probably help in summer as it's pretty massive compared to standard Fabia SMICs.

My Leon PD150 (so ARL engine including the standard FMIC which PD150s got over 130s) mapped to 186-196 depending on rollers. Lack of FMIC probably wouldn't make any difference this time of year but would probably help in summer as it's pretty massive compared to standard Fabia SMICs.

What sort of quality is the ARL one would you say? Curious as to how it stacks up against the SS one mainly.

Honestly? No idea, I don't know what makes a good FMIC and what makes a bad one. It was the standard one, and was considered "perfectly adequate" by people on SCN with more tuned motors than mine, so I never gave a thought to upgrading it. It's obvious that it's better than a stock SMIC of the same design but half the size and tucked away in a wheelarch though, so someone fitting a 150 turbo and getting appropriate mapping I would expect to suffer more from heatsoak in the summer weather.

was considered "perfectly adequate" by people on SCN

Sounds good enough too me, thanks.

Wasn't sure if it was considered to be terrible in terms of construction or anything else, like the SMICs are generally regarded as not too good.

Nah, I think it's one of those things where it's good enough, there's probably better out there but it's not worth paying unless you were changing anyway. I would guess that with it being exposed it's more tolerant of bad design/construction anyway as it gets more of a helping hand from the ambient air being pushed through your grill than the OEM SMIC on a PD130 does.

so if a standard pd150 can take 190bhp safely, then what could a pd150 hybrid take?

According to companies like TD, they flow enough for around 240-250bhp. It was previously thought that you couldn't get more than around 220 on standard PD130 injectors, but there's been a few cars recently which have disproved that (most recently Warwick Hunt's old Jabbasport build which did over 260bhp on Shark's dyno, even though Mikko had posted his figures and explained why he believed it was impossible). So in theory, 250ish bhp but in practice you would probably be limited by other parts.

Standard FMIC is rather good, still used on a lot of high power applications - its the boost hoses that need upgrading - they can't handle the high boost (let alone standard boost!)

i recon a PD150 turbo can take 200bhp, i know of a few people that are running around that, anywhere from 195-205 with a PD150, FMIC and a shark map. one made 208 on a reliable dyno

cheers