Today I attempted a cam belt change on a 1.4 16v Seat Arosa sport only to discover its an engine out job! There is about half an inch between the crankshaft pulley and the chassis/engine bay. No chance of getting even a socket on the bolt never mind a wrench aswell! I suppose its the price we pay for VW using the same engines in every make and model no thought about different chassis.

Sure theres not a trick ??

Edit the title and a tech might know a trick

Sure theres not a trick ??

Edit the title and a tech might know a trick

lol maybe the title is harsh its all in jest tho I wouldnt buy anything else. I cant see how it would be done without dropping the engine down but then the gearbox,exhaust and all the rest of it would have to be moved with it! You can usually get at the pulley through the wheel arch lining but on the Arosa you are met with solid chassis :|

Yes, it would appear you have to remove one engine mount, although from what these guys say it's no biggie...

http://forums.clublupo.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=81754

Yes, it would appear you have to remove one engine mount, although from what these guys say it's no biggie...

http://forums.clublupo.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=81754

Thanks for that mate it worrys me dropping it with the gearbox and exhaust attatched ill have to think about my next move. Anyway I have some technical data regarding that ASDA oil I stirred up a storm with lol im going to re-post in Octavia 2 after my next visit to ASDA lol

Thanks for that mate it worrys me dropping it with the gearbox and exhaust attatched ill have to think about my next move. Anyway I have some technical data regarding that ASDA oil I stirred up a storm with lol im going to re-post in Octavia 2 after my next visit to ASDA lol

Haha, I remember that thread, think I even chipped in too (now hoping what I said wasn't too controversial )

Off for a look now...

Reminds me of the time I cut the aux. belt off my turbo cavalier before I realised you couldn't refit without undoing a mount. No facilities and no big tools, luckily I'm only 100 yards from a garage.

Reminds me of the time I cut the aux. belt off my turbo cavalier before I realised you couldn't refit without undoing a mount. No facilities and no big tools, luckily I'm only 100 yards from a garage.

haha its an engine job out for that too!

same with the Fabia 1.4 twin cam. The cam belt bridges an engine support. The get round is use a jack to support the engine. Or what I've done in the past is cover both wings with a thick cloth, then lay a piece of angle iron with a hole drilled in it across the engine bay, and run some medium duty wire cable through the fixing point to support the engine with the jack readied underneath as fall-back.

I wonder how much arm twisting had to be exerted on the professional design engineer of that feature before he came round to completely compromising his own engineering common sense and ethics.

Nick

its fairly easy on the 1.4 16v engines on a lupo/arosa, it's only the 1.7 diesel where it's really tight, just use a Trolley jack and a block of wood under the engine and remove the engine mounting and drop it down so yo can get access. There's no timing marks on the camshaft pulleys on those, you need a special tool with 2 prongs to lock the cams in place.... The other thing you might struggle with is counter holding the crank pulley so you can undo the centre bolt but you can make one quite easily.

Vw special tool number T10016... You can buy them from a few different sources like laser or sealey or hazet... It pushes through 2 holes in the cam pulleys and goes into 2 holes in the side of the cylinder head.

Thanks for the great advice guys im still unsure about moving an engine with only one mount removed and still attatched to the exhaust tho. I mite try and borrow a hoist, ill let you know how it goes :-)

It will be fine.

I encountered exactly the same problem when I did the chain on my felicia. Physically not enough room between the pully and the chassis so just used a trolley jack and a block of wood and dropped the engine slightly.

phil

Without telling grandma how to suck eggs - best done on level ground, with the wheels chocked, away from other pedestrian traffic and with some cover from the weather - especially now.

Nick

Edited 17 February, 201214 yr by Clunkclick

Did one on my old Lupo Sport, engine mount off, easily done

And the Arosa is a Seat product, VW knicked it for the Lupo

Done one some years ago same as Teflon Toms method, yes it is tight for space. It's jacking the engine up and down to get to the top and bottom pulleys respectively, that is a pain. Protect your sump with a flat peice of wood, an old piece of floorboard is ideal.