As the title suggests, I am thinking of selling my black magic 57 plate Octavia but it would break my heart to strip all the bits off and return it to stock. I would much rather sell to an enthusiast who understands the car and the mods.

The car has broken through 80k miles last week but has had a new K04 turbo and clutch (and Quaife LSD) between 50 and 60k. It has been fully looked after and serviced by JKM. A recent service also included a health check and a compression test on cylinders showed almost 'as new' results. The gearbox was fine when the clutch/Quaife was fitted. Body work is excellent although shows signs of the expected road rash that would be expected on an 80k car. Despite all the mods, I have driven it very conservatively with only the occasional 'slip from grace'. I would be happy for an independent health check.

A look at Autotrader suggests about £6000 for a car of this age and mileage if stock. However, as the old saying goes, it is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. My question is, what do you think it is worth with the following mods if planning for a quick sale (sensible estimates only please although I would look favourably on selling it 'as is' to someone on this site )???:

• Full K04 conversion with Revo software
  
• Quaife ATB diff
  
• Sachs clutch (fitted with new flywheel)
  
• APR HPFP
  
• RS4 fuel valve
  
• ITG cold air intake
  
• Twintercooler
  
• Porsche 4-pot front brake calipers with RS4-2 pads
  
• Pipewerx downpipe (200 cel cat) with Piper cat-back
  
• Eibach RARB
  
• WALK
  
• Koni FSDs with Eibach springs
  
• Goodyear Eagle Asymetric 2 tyres (about half worn)
  

Immediately after KO4 conversion:

February rolling road day (and after Revo setting tweaked and ECU had adapted etc) was 328 bhp on JKMs rollers:

This is not a 'for sale' advert - just getting opinions

Cheers

Not in the market myself for a used car, but that could be an awesome car for someone who had planned to do those mods anyway.

General consensus is that "stock" sells better and you can re-coup some of your costs by selling the bits. But I agree, a shame to strip it all off.. No harm in trying as it is, then if it won't sell, return to stock?

Nice car. I know where your coming from

I think you will be dissapointed with what it will sell for as a whole package. Having said that you never know and its all about timing. If someone is looking for a car with your spec it will sell quickly for a decent price. Otherwise you might be in the more realistic situation of you cant even sell the car modified and it has to be standard to sell. (trust me I speak from experience more than once)

Unfortunatly the only way you will get any where near to recouping some of the money spent is to return to standard and sell the parts. Even then the prices for the performance parts are rock bottom.

Lately theres been brake sets like yours for well under £500 and full exhausts havent even been selling or have gone for silly money (less than £200). Its just a really bad situation all round ATM

However i'm interested in the LSD and KO4 turbo and bits if you do strip. Please PM me first.

Good luck with what ever you decide to do.

Modified car price != car price + mods price

However, maybe £8,000 if standard ones are going for £6,000?

I would advertise it for a few weeks as is, before stripping it. But sadly it does work out that the standard cars do move better than modified ones.

I would say that if you are looking for £5500 to £6000 then you might be very lucky

Good luck with the sale

I reckon a forum regular may want it or at least someone they know. If that were the case if the rest of the car was specced well (jumbo box, climate, cruise, maxidot, pdc) I reckon 7-7.5K would be a decent price for that type of car

If I were building one I know I would have to source a car first (5.5K-6K) and then about 2.5K on bits plus fitting (so maybe 3.5K) so in reality even at 7.5K it would be a bargain.

You have to consider many people after a K04 car may look at Leon Cupras (8K) and Golf ED30's (9K) first though, and spend a little more on a car already with most the parts as standard.

Edited 28 March, 201214 yr by vrs777

I think its a given that anyone who mods a car, certainly to this degree knows they won't get their money back but there used to be the option of returning to standard and getting somewhere close if not make a bit more. That doesnt seem to be the case anymore and its a case of taking the hit and carrying on regardless.

Also most of the time a modded car wont sell quickly and if you need to make things happen you have no real option but to return back to standard.

If I were building one I know I would have to source a car first (5.5K-6K) and then about 2.5K on bits plus fitting (so maybe 3.5K) so in reality even at 7.5K it would be a bargain.

To me that makes perfect sense but it doesnt seem to play out ATM hence why I say he might be dissapointed with the current market value.

Thanks for the quick responses folks. I fully take the point about not getting the money back for the mods but I have to be honest and say that I always knew that this would be the case. It was done for the sheer enjoyment of how this car performs...and it was worth it!

It does have jumbo box, climate and cruise control.

There will certainly be a 'hit' on this and I'm prepared to take the hit and sell at a bargain price when compared to what has been spent. However, selling it for the same (or less as is suggested above) than the stock price just wouldn't make sense.

I agree that buying a stock car and then sourcing/fitting the bits would put the value at about £9k. I was thinking somewhere between £7-£8k but that was just a guess. As mentioned in the OP, it is worth what someone is prepared to pay.

On my side is the fact that I am in no hurry to sell and looking towards a new TSI VRS where a lot of the mods can be moved across . Yup, I am just dumb enough to do it all over again!!

Why not just do that then? Buy new one, put mods across, sell old standard one?

Why not just do that then? Buy new one, put mods across, sell old standard one?

It is a fair point and I am prepared to do that. However, finding the time to do it myself at the moment is a bit of an issue so I would have to take time off work to do it or leave two cars side by side at JKM for a few days (which means time off work as no car to commute) and simply the 'hassle factor' of all this. By the time fitting costs are factored in for clutches/LSDs and K04 turbos on the new car (i.e. bits I wouldn't do myself), the difference in price is not huge between swapping old parts or sourcing new and getting fitted.

Does that make sense?

Also, I sold the OEM K03.

As was said earlier, it may end up having to go the strip down/sell stock route in which case fair enough, I'd do that.

It is just such a stunning car at the moment that I'd feel bad doing it.

Why sell it at all then? if you're just gonna replace it with the same car?

LOL - that is also a very good point!

I hope it doesn't sound arrogant but the truth is that I can afford a new TSI VRS combined with the fact that I do about 22,000 miles a year meaning the old one won't last forever....and then there was seeing what Jim at JKM's TSI VRS could do...... .......344.4 BHP and 387 Ft/Lb torque!

http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/tsi-skoda-jkm.htm

I have to admit, running the old VRS 'until the wheels fell off' was/is also an option!

muckipup, have a look in the 'Items Wanted' section, there was a chap a few weeks ago who posted up wanting a heavily modified Octavia for a modball rally type affair. I'm sure he didn't specify a budget, and from waht I've read on this thread your car may fit the bill.

I hope this is of some use.

Why not a different TSI engined car? Golf? Scirocco? Leon? A4?

muckipup, have a look in the 'Items Wanted' section, there was a chap a few weeks ago who posted up wanting a heavily modified Octavia for a modball rally type affair. I'm sure he didn't specify a budget, and from waht I've read on this thread your car may fit the bill.

I hope this is of some use.

Cheers - I never spotted that so will have a look although am not in a position to sell at the moment.

Why not a different TSI engined car? Golf? Scirocco? Leon? A4?

BLASPHEMY!

Seriously mate, if something came up at the right price then I would consider it but the VAT-free deal means that the price difference it just too much to warrant the better (?) build qulaity of the VWs or badge snobbery.

I plan on running mine into the ground. It's how I want it now (k04, Matt black etc) so no point selling.

I plan on running mine into the ground. It's how I want it now (k04, Matt black etc) so no point selling.

I can fully understand that Harry - it looks great and we both know how these things are on the road!

Of course, rubbing your nose in a 344 bhp / 387 ft/lb dyno graph has absolutely nothing to do with my plans for a K04 TSI

Why do you want to change for a TSI? Is it more power you're after?

Just sod it and go GT3076R mate. Go big, or go home

BLASPHEMY!

Seriously mate, if something came up at the right price then I would consider it but the VAT-free deal means that the price difference it just too much to warrant the better (?) build qulaity of the VWs or badge snobbery.

Badges mean nothing to me really. VW and Audi have an arguably better interior, but that's all down to personal taste.

I'm just wondering if it's worth it for you, to effectively build the same car twice?

More power....me?

No, I am actually happy with the power the TFSI is producing now. The headline figure that I mentioned earlier doesn't do that much for me (believe it or not ) although I was impressed with the area under the torque curve for JKM's TSI:

http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/2011%20updates%20November/K04_Bign.jpg

It is simply about drumming up the mileage on the current car and having the option to change even if it is an expensive option. You are right, a GT3076R would probably be cheaper but we would be in rod-bending / ludicrous power territory there!!

Someone has to pioneer with these things. If only I had the money it'd be a set of recaro pole positions and a GT3076R and a forged motor, as well as some toyo R888s

Someone has to pioneer with these things. If only I had the money it'd be a set of recaro pole positions, a GT3076R and a forged motor, as well as some toyo R888s

I can't really add more to what's already been said.

As you'll know, a car modified to this level requires a buyer to come along that's looking for exactly that type of vehicle. And with something like yours, the more it's modified the smaller the market for it is. For example, someone might be willing to buy something 'modified' but only upto the level of suspension, brakes, remap etc.

Added into the fact that you might well buy something newer, but with compatibility for the majority of parts, it seems madness to me that you sell this one in it's current state. For you only to go and buy similar or the same parts for the new vehicle, probably at a higher price or even retail price than you've just sold the same parts for, on your old car

I'd strip the car, at least for the bits you want to re-use (probably just remove everything modified seeing as you're doing some bits anyway) and sell it as a standard car.

Just my thoughts....

Steve