Good morning

I am thinking of purchasing protection bars from Superskoda.

Has anyone fitted these yet? My concern is if they connect to the chassis easily,or are alterations to be made,which of course i will avoid .forget forget about the whole thing.

Edited 23 April, 201214 yr by oriki

Surely all such bars are very dangerous to pedestrians in a collision?

Also, if you do bump any object, all that happens is the bar bends back and damages the bodywork as well as itself.

Ugly and not necessary.

Surely all such bars are very dangerous to pedestrians in a collision?

Also, if you do bump any object, all that happens is the bar bends back and damages the bodywork as well as itself.

Yes, they don't call them kiddy-killers for no reason.

The bar is not so bad for adults, just smashes thier legs.

For children though it's head or chest height, depending on the age. Usually a much higher chance of death resulting from any accident.

Not something I'd want on my conscience.

Ugly and not necessary.

I agree.

As an aftermarket one it probably doesn't set the airbags off either as it should.

OEM ones on other cars are made of hard coated foam (for a reason - see above) and include the sensors to set the airbags off.

This will just fold back in a minor impact pressing in the whole front of the car, probably causing more damage.

Style over safety IMO.

Good morning

I am thinking of purchasing protection bars from Superskoda.

Has anyone fitted these yet? My concern is if they connect to the chassis easily,or are alterations to be made,which of course i will avoid .forget forget about the whole thing.

I didnt gnow they are dangerous.Forgot about the idea.

Thank you.

I understand now that the idea is bad.

Thank you for your opinions.

Forgot about the whole idea.

A couple of years ago at work, I took part in a survey reference the homologation of bull bars. It was agreed that no bull bars should be allowed unless they had type approval and were fitted as STD by the manufacturers.

I have not heard of any further debate here in the UK, but in serveral EU countries they passed new laws in which, they must be removed to obtain an ITV (MOT) certificate, in doing this it was hoped that drivers would not refit them.

Also it was agreed in the survey that if bull bars were fitted, you must inform your insurance company because of the extra danger of inflicting fatal injuries to peds.

Probably the sort of thing our Australian members might like to you if they venture into 'the outback' on a regular basis; but then a 'Roo bar perhaps need to be more substantial to protect the whole width of the front end, not just the central half.

Bull Bars were banned from being fitted to vehicles from the 25th May 2007 in all EU countries including the UK IIRC.

Existing ones were allowed, but you could no longer make, sell or fit them to vehicles.

This is why the whole Land Rover range of front bars are now hard coated foam, as all bull bars in the EU now have to conform to the same standards as a new car, including pedestrian protection.

Bull Bars were banned from being fitted to vehicles from the 25th May 2007 in all EU countries including the UK IIRC.

Existing ones were allowed, but you could no longer make, sell or fit them to vehicles.

This is why the whole Land Rover range of front bars are now hard coated foam, as all bull bars in the EU now have to conform to the same standards as a new car, including pedestrian protection.

So the OP, who is from Israel ought to be OK, unless there are some other local regulations on this.

So the OP, who is from Israel ought to be OK, unless there are some other local regulations on this.

Yes, from a legal point of view unless they have similar rules in Israel.

That's why I didn't quote the legislation further up, just in response to someone talking about a study in the EU.

I did spot he was not in the EU when I posted originally.

Yes, from a legal point of view unless they have similar rules in Israel.

That's why I didn't quote the legislation further up, just in response to someone talking about a study in the EU.

I did spot he was not in the EU when I posted originally.

As some members pointed out,it is illegal in the EU.

After checking,I found out Bullbars are illegal in Israel too,and are definitely a NO NO.

Sorry to have bothered you all.

As some members pointed out,it is illegal in the EU.

After checking,I found out Bullbars are illegal in Israel too,and are definitely a NO NO.

Sorry to have bothered you all.

No problem oriki, it's nice to discuss things like this.

Yes, from a legal point of view unless they have similar rules in Israel.

That's why I didn't quote the legislation further up, just in response to someone talking about a study in the EU.

I did spot he was not in the EU when I posted originally.

As some members pointed out,it is illegal in the EU.

After checking,I found out Bullbars are illegal in Israel too,and are definitely a NO NO.

Sorry to have bothered you all.

After checking,I found out Bullbars are illegal in Israel too.

Sorry to have bothered you all,I should have checked first.

Edited 23 April, 201214 yr by oriki

So if they are banned in most sensible Countries, one has to question the wisdom of the manufacturer making and trying to sell them.

So if they are banned in most sensible Countries, one has to question the wisdom of the manufacturer making and trying to sell them.

I believe if they were being made and fitted in the UK it's a suggested 12 month prison term...

That's strange cos when I had the zdiscovery you could buy pedestrian friendly bull bars which were perfectly legal.

Sandy,

Note the date in this posting:

Bull Bars were banned from being fitted to vehicles from the 25th May 2007 in all EU countries including the UK IIRC.

Existing ones were allowed, but you could no longer make, sell or fit them to vehicles.

However I am aware from my LR days that many people were still fitting them after that date.