They have been able to get you over lane changes for years now, so that doesn't work.

I'd guess the reason a number of lorries don't care is that either their speedo says 50, or that they are not dirving on a UK driving licence so don't care too much.

In an ideal world everyone would be able to remember the highway code and what they were taught in their driving lessons, UNFORTUNATELY they don't and on top of that not all of the highway code is accurate/relevant/possible in all situations. Also the standard of the driving test in this country is not brilliant and as pointed out foreign drivers may have taken a worse one

If Google has their way we (our grand kids:D) wont have to worry about speeding We will just have to worry about our car getting "Hacked"

During road works when it says stay in lane, I will stay in the lane. No matter what speed I am doing.

If your doing fifty in the middle lane and there is a vehicle doing the same in the inside lane how are you supposed to move over?

Speed up and get a fine, slow down and get squashed by the artic that's been 2 inch off your bumper.

No, I'll do neither they can just be patient like everyone else.

If theres no room to move over then fine, However, when your sat in lane 2 for no reason other than to hold up other motorists is when you start getting intimidated. Its alright for you lot where 50-70 takes 3/4 seconds. 50 to our speed limiters can take a mile sometimes. fuel economy drops from 8-9 mpg down 3mpg when we're accelerating. We keep moving at a pace for a reason.

As for moving to lane 2 for cars coming on. Its your job to match the speed of the lane your coming into. Its your job to give way to on coming traffic. Hence the give way markings. I used to, but the amount of cars that'll pull out then match your speed and keep you in lane 2 just got rediculous. I sent some woman up the m40 off the m42 because she kept me out there for 7 miles. Then all of a sudden when the m40 markings came up, oh dear, guess the boots on the other foot now. And the other thing is you'll pull out, match our speed and sit in out blind spot, great, now we pull back in, and guess whos fault that accident is.

Interesting topic. To an extent I see Dans point but I dont agree with the giveway point for the simple reason that you do as pointed out need to meet the speed of the traffic already on the motorway so to then find you cant join the normal driving lane and have to give way, only to have to meet the speed limit from a standing start wow that would cause some huge problems. I think it would be much easier to revert back to basic common courtesy to fellow users around to be honest. The goals are the same, to arrive safely to our next destination.

If your doing fifty in the middle lane and there is a vehicle doing the same in the inside lane how are you supposed to move over?

Speed up and get a fine, slow down and get squashed by the artic that's been 2 inch off your bumper.

No, I'll do neither they can just be patient like everyone else.

Who mentioned the middle lane? I was referring to lane 3.

If you find yourself in a 50mph average speed zone and you are in lane 3 matching the speed of the car in lane 2 then either speed up to 52mph or slow down to 48mph and either drop in front or behind the car in lane 2. You can then drive along at 50mph in lane 1 or 2 for as long as you wish.

Deliberately holding up traffic that wants to travel faster than you (rightly or wrongly) by preventing them from passing makes you as bad as them.

Whether the speed limit is 50mph or 70mph ‘keep left unless overtaking’ still applies.

While I 100% agree with keeping left unless overtaking, sometimes it isnt possible. At 50MPH you need a good few car lengths between you and the car in front/behind. So you in the outside lane, reasonable amount of traffic around you, everyone moving at the limit, what do you do? Slow down/speed up and essentially cut someone up? Maybe its just the times i`v been travelling, but its nearly always congested at these average speed check to the point where you physically can get everyone into the nearside lanes.

Agreed, when the road is full to capacity regular lane changing is going to make things worse.

But even when its not as busy you always get someone in lane 3 doing 50mph alongside a car in lane 2 which is also doing 50mph.

There is no one infront or behind the car in lane 2 yet the car in lane 3 is doing the speed limit and thinks that therefore no one should want to pass.

Is it unreasonable to expect the car in lane 3 to either speed up or slow down by a few mph to free up the outside lane?

Is it unreasonable to expect the car in lane 3 to either speed up or slow down by a few mph to free up the outside lane?

I used to drive through a 50mph SPECS section regularly and I think it's a tough call balancing what they want to be doing (which is safe, legal, etc) and what you'd like them to do. Imhe, the intention of the car in lane 3 is always to overtake, albeit at a snail's pace, and so at some point they will return to L2. I suspect whether they increase their speed to complete it more quickly will be down to their weighing up of speeding vs the pressure of holding up a line of traffic.

In the scheme of things, being forced to do 50mph over a few miles versus being able to go a bit faster isn't going to make a huge difference to journey time

Chris

In the M1 roadworks near Luton there are only 2 cameras covering 3 lanes.

Years ago there was a case of a drivers fine being thrown out of court because specs needs a camera PER lane, and the lanes covered must be constant.

The M1 cameras switch between monitoring lane 1 and 2 to 2 and 3 repeatedly.

The 50 stretch in Newport is ridiculous and I didn't realise there's some the other side of the bridge after Bristol too. I'm juts glad I don't have to drive that way very often it would drive me mad doing that every day. I just stick to the limit and normally in Lane 2 or 3 slowly passing cars doing 48.

The 50 stretch in Newport is ridiculous and I didn't realise there's some the other side of the bridge after Bristol too. I'm juts glad I don't have to drive that way very often it would drive me mad doing that every day. I just stick to the limit and normally in Lane 2 or 3 slowly passing cars doing 48.

The stretch around Newport had been gone for a while now. Really wound me up sitting at 50 on an empty road when heading home late.

The stretch around Newport had been gone for a while now. Really wound me up sitting at 50 on an empty road when heading home late.

The cameras were there when I went Castle Combe a few weeks ago and there's some after Bristol too

If everyone sat in the inside lane and left the outside lanes empty I think it's be very congested lol.

There is hardly anyone on the inside lane. Mostly empty from my experience - hence that's why I'm there and going faster than lane 2. Eejits.

Also Speedo reads slow so in roadworks with average cams I rely on the Tomtom and set the cruise at 49mph and sail past most others going slow. (reads about 55 on the speedo)

Edited 11 May, 201214 yr by Golf-Fiend

The cameras were there when I went Castle Combe a few weeks ago and there's some after Bristol too

Perhaps your thinking of the variable speed limit camera gantries that are now a permanent fixture of that stretch of road? I can promise you there are no yellow average speed cameras around Newport now.

There is hardly anyone on the inside lane. Mostly empty from my experience - hence that's why I'm there and going faster than lane 2. Eejits.

Also Speedo reads slow so in roadworks with average cams I rely on the Tomtom and set the cruise at 49mph and sail past most others going slow. (reads about 55 on the speedo)

+1 to both these points.