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Kw v1 coilovers. What improvement will i see?

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Well ive just bought a brand new set of kw v1's for my octavia vrs, i went for the kw's as i had a set on my fabia vrs and they were excellent

Basically i want to get rid of the rolly polly-ness of the standard set up, to me it rolls into corners and feels unsteady and certainly not confidence inspiring, also under heavy accelaration the front lifts as if it wants to take off which id like to get rid of!

Will the kw v1's alone give me what im after, i want a firm but comfortable ride, without the roll mid coner and a more stable end under heavy acceleration, and obviously for it to handle better :)

Will i be satisfied?

they are very good,

but it wont do it alone, to sort the vrs handling you need (imo)

front and rear arb upgrades (r32 front ideally and a 25mm or 28mm rear)

dogbone mounts

polybushed wishbones and imo tt front arms with castor bushing and an r32 quickrack to set it all off

strut bracing upper and lower with subframe bushing

rear beam bushes uprated

thats a start!

You are joking...a firm but confortable ride, isnt that a complete contradiction in terms lol

Nah not really you can get firm and bouncy, like you jump up and down over every pothole, or when your smoking a fag and the bumps in the road flick the ash so you dont have to

My old fabia rode like a standard car but didnt roll round the bends and felt much more composed if you catch my drift

I simply cannot afford arbs etc and my old fabia used to get tracked around knockhill with only kw v1's and it didnt come unstuck

I might uprate the bushes on the front but thats about it really

I just want to lose the rollyness, front end lift and feel a bit more confident to throw it around on the twisties, cause right now its a proper barge and uninspiring / boring on a back road

Edited by BigJase88

i quite like firm and bouncy, but i'm not talking about cars!

on a serious note, i ran v2s on my octavia, and have v3s on my golf mk2, they are in no way comfy like my daily unmodded car, but they are much better than cheap crashy coilovers which are cak. I could tell the difference between weitecs gts for the octavia and the v2s when i changed them over, as bowders, he will confirm that, so the v1s are a step in the right direction.

Arbs have a big factor in the roll you feel, with stock stuff, the cars do roll, maybe check all your bushes are good and replace/renew with stock stuff as required.

meant to say, just fit a whitline rear arb, they do a 22 or a 24 which goes with the stock bar you have, that and the dogbone are some of the best mods you can do to a mk1.

+1 to a full TT front end and a big rear ARB

I'd throw all my money at that lot and coilies if I bought another standard VRS before even doing any power mods.

Can't comment on KWs as I had Weitecs on mine but the difference over the standard suspension was night and day. With the Weitecs on you could floor it and the car would stay practically flat

as chicken says, handling is where these cars lack, tt front end all the way, was one of the best things i did to my car.

kws are like the weitecs, but just better so you cant go wrong:>

what good is 180bhp without being able to put it down, let alone 210 plus for a remapped car.

The dogbone helps suprisingly well on these cars to stop wheel hop and put the power down (assuming you have good tyres too)

i will have kwv3 for sale very soon ;-) and arbs and r32 front end ad bigger brakes poly bushes the best of the best pretty much at very good prices

;-)

Only problem is you have to buy them as a complete car ;-)

i would sell those v1s and buy the v3s in a flash Jase!!!

lol yeah kwv3 £7500 lol

lol, well they are setup already to be fair for that price;>

lol you lot are mad !!!! i would even throw in a pillow to stick on your seat ;-)

Just dont lower them too much.

They will be nice and firm but the lower you go the more bouncy they will be. they are the same as the Weitec GT's just made from stainless not Galvinised. thats all.

The weitecs are spot on for the money and if you have them around the std ride hight they are really nice to ride on and still firm it up.

I got KWv3 to go on this summer lol, had then nearly a year now and still not fitted.

I have koni adjustables and h+r springs with whiteline front and rear anti-roll bars and fitted Audi tt bushes in the front wishbones and find it really good,not perfect but a lot better than standard,drove a Octavia with weitec coil overs and found it quite bouncy at the front end.

I might go for uprated wishbone bushes and uprate dog bone mount then

I had all uprated vibrateknics mounts in my driesel golf (both lhs rhs and dog bone) and it was atrocious! A can in the can holder just used to dance around on the spot. Whats the best dogbone mount that has standardish feel?

Coilovers will be nose down by about 5-10mm than the rear as i feel the front looks too high as standard compared to the rear,

Will be putting the rear down about 25mm and front maybe 25-30mm

and a rear arb....without that i wouldnt even bother with the coilovers, the rear arb literally changes the characteristics of the vrs

Try that hight mate but I would say 15mm - 20mm down on front and 10mm rear,

They are awesome at std ish hights. Agreed tho for 160 notes get a rarb. No other mod will do as much as that one will.

Agree on the std hight, the fronts are a tad high but it is right on the wishbone angles hence why a lot of us have gone for the tt hubs and bones.

I would get the superPRO dog mount bothe bits the powerflex seems to be a bit harder. You might also wanna try the red one for the diesels if you want as close to stock as pos

Every1 raved about the rarb on the fabia but i never had one

It had uprated console bushes

Kw v1's

And 323 brembos and it was well poised, the handling was bob on and predictable, never needed a rarb

well thats due to the stock fabia vrs being better at handling than the stock octavia.

I have owned both, and the stock fabia is a better car than a stock octavia frankly.

However, if you are spending £600 plus on some coilovers for the octavia, why would you not do the glaringly obvious mod that everyone does on the octavia...the rear arb.

Trust me, it transforms the octy, as billy says above, ask some of the other members. The vrs is proned to massive understear, a rear arb helps dial that out...its a no brainer really as they are cheap and easy to fit.

If i only did 3 things to an octavia it would be rear arb, dog bone and remap in that order basically.

R32 front ARB and Neuspeed Rear 28mm ARB on mine. All bushes are good and running on standard shocks and springs. Brand new sticky tyres = ultra smooth ride and corners exceptionally well very flat with a touch of lift off oversteer if you want a giggle.

I never found mine made much difference but I think there could have been 3 factors

1. It might not have been held on tight enough (it was the Whiteline 24mm adjustable one with the U bolts and I was scared to overtighten it in case I bent the rear beam. It was on the middle adjustment setting)

2. I fitted mine only a day or two after the coilovers so wasn't sure how much of the improvement was due to the coilovers and how much to the RARB.

3. It wasn't thick enough - group1rs has a 28mm Neuspeed rear bar on his and that feels MUCH better

Oh hello Pete fancy that! Did you try and ring last night? Be quick.. I'm off on holiday tomorrow!

the rear arb should give you a massive difference, even if you do go for the girly whiteline one and not the manly autotech or neuspeed 28mm rear bar!

If you coulnt tell, you didnt drive it hard enough jamie;>

I fitted my whiteline adjustable one on standard suspension straight on to the hardest setting and it made a massive difference, also found out what lift off oversteer was too! only done it once when I was being silly lol

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