Hi

does anyone know if the Fabia 1.2 HTP mk1 model come with ESP and ASR

Thanks

Do you have an ASR button on the dash?

The ESP was an option...

Do you have an ASR button on the dash?

The ESP was an option...

HI So if I have an ASR button, does it mean we have ESP? The car is the 1.2 htp Sport from 2005.

Thanks.

No, it means you have ASR. Cars with the ESP option say ESP instead. ASR is just traction control. ESP has this as well as the individual wheel braking systems.

Edited 1 June, 201214 yr by TriggerFish

No, it means you have ASR. Cars with the ESP option say ESP instead. ASR is just traction control. ESP has this as well as the individual wheel braking systems.

Thanks, so was ASR an option too, or standard? Anti skid reduction I'm guessing it stands for? ESP: Electronic Stability Programme?

Anti slip regulation I think from memory.

ESP = correct.

ASR was standard on 1.4 16v and up (not Sdi or 8v from memory).

Nit sure if it was standard or optional on the 1.2s though!

Edited 1 June, 201214 yr by TriggerFish

How much trouble could you get in in a 1.2 to warrant ESP?

I had one as a hire car on holiday once and found it a struggle to get any real

go out of the thing.

Anti slip regulation I think from memory.

ESP = correct.

ASR was standard on 1.4 16v and up (not Sdi or 8v from memory).

Nit sure if it was standard or optional on the 1.2s though!

Wow just realised that our present 1.4MPI 8valve has the Electronic Stability Programme. Never realised, I thought it was just traction control! Sounds dumb, but I never knew what having that button meant.

So do Fabia's with ESP handle and grip alot better than those without? Are they alot more stable/safer to drive?

My 1.2 12v 2006 fabia sport doesn't have either, although I have fitted all the switches for a better interior look

My 1.2 12v 2006 fabia sport doesn't have either, although I have fitted all the switches for a better interior look

Hi So how do you like your Sport? Could I ask which colour it is, beacuse the ones I have seen all seem to be black? I'm guessing it has ABS?

Also, does it have the same seats as the VRS?

Lastly, does she idle abit lumpy, enough to 'feel' it through the car? Thanks.

Edited 1 June, 201214 yr by Skodafabialovers

It's harder to spin out in a car with ESP than one without.

But not impossible.

have a butchers at this. It was one of the more expensive options.

Hi So how do you like your Sport? Could I ask which colour it is, beacuse the ones I have seen all seem to be black? I'm guessing it has ABS?

Also, does it have the same seats as the VRS?

Lastly, does she idle abit lumpy, enough to 'feel' it through the car? Thanks.

Been driving it about a month, love it!

Mines silver, wish it was black!

Yeah it had abs fitted as standard.

Mine has same seats at a vrs with different cloth, my picture on here is my interior with the red seat belts etc

If you've got any questions pm if you want anything.

Edited 1 June, 201214 yr by hutchysrs50

It's harder to spin out in a car with ESP than one without.

But not impossible.

have a butchers at this. It was one of the more expensive options.

Blimey, thats quite a difference between ESP and non ESP. I'm worried now my wife won't be as safe, if we get a car without ESP. She tends to drive the present MPI (with ESP) with gusto!

Edited 1 June, 201214 yr by Skodafabialovers

Blimey, thats quite a difference between ESP and non ESP. I'm worried now my wife won't be as safe, if we get a car without ESP. She tends to drive the present MPI (with ESP) with gusto!

At the end of the day it's an emergency backup for when the driver makes an error.

It's no substitute for driving within your limits and those of the car.

Never had stuff like that on everyday cars when I learned to drive and back then most cars

were rear wheel drive too. I learned all I needed to know about car control back when I

had an old 2 litre Cortina the first time it was icy

Good observation is the key to surviving your drive, and driving according to conditions.

Couple that with a well maintained vehicle and a spot of courtesy you'll probably never need ESP.

In my opinion the most important place to spend as much as you can afford is on tyres.

Skimp on tyres and all the other fancy electronic stuff is pointless anyway.

The ASR is more focused on getting the power down and controlling wheelspin.

Although many find it intrusive and over sensitive on the higher powered Skodas

and have it off a lot of the time.

At the end of the day it's an emergency backup for when the driver makes an error.

It's no substitute for driving within your limits and those of the car.

Never had stuff like that on everyday cars when I learned to drive and back then most cars

were rear wheel drive too. I learned all I needed to know about car control back when I

had an old 2 litre Cortina the first time it was icy

Good observation is the key to surviving your drive, and driving according to conditions.

Couple that with a well maintained vehicle and a spot of courtesy you'll probably never need ESP.

In my opinion the most important place to spend as much as you can afford is on tyres.

Skimp on tyres and all the other fancy electronic stuff is pointless anyway.

The ASR is more focused on getting the power down and controlling wheelspin.

Although many find it intrusive and over sensitive on the higher powered Skodas

and have it off a lot of the time.

I agree with what you've said above. I'm from the old school (ish) of motoring too (late 1980's). The cars I used to drive at very stupid speeds, weren't made to drive at very stupid speeds.

Infact I don't really think they were made to do anything other than to go on school runs and shopping trips at 30mph. At 17, I had 'other' ideas. Like emulating my heros of the time; Senna and Prost. These cars were driven as if I were Senna and Prost. They (the cars) did not like it much (but I did) and liked to refuse to go round corners quickly, without trying to go straight on (front wheel drive) or sideways (rear wheel drive), so were forced to go round. I had many fun times. It's a miracle I'am here!

I bemoan the fact that a 17 girl (sorry girls) can jump into a modern car and go like the crap from hell and still get to their destination without a slip or skid to frighten them. Its all good really, in the name of safey, but I ask you, where's the skill in that? Or the Fun??

Edited 1 June, 201214 yr by Skodafabialovers

I Its all good really, in the name of safety

Is it? I see a driving population of young people who can make cars go from A to B at impressive speeds and wrongly believe they are skilled. Too much of the time their driving is littered with mistakes that should have had them off the road in the old days but the various aids pick up the slack, the car stays on the road, they get used to going faster than their ability should allow and they never learn how badly they drive or realise what aspects of their driving need improvement. When the car finally runs out of ability or an aid fails they take themselves and their passengers into a tree or brick wall 20 miles an hour faster than the bad old days, with devastating results.

If so much driving skill is built into the car when, where or why will a new driver learn any of these skills. A skilled driver in a 'passive' car or an unskilled driver in a clever car. You choose.

Nigel

Blimey, thats quite a difference between ESP and non ESP. I'm worried now my wife won't be as safe, if we get a car without ESP. She tends to drive the present MPI (with ESP) with gusto!

Do you really think your OH is that incapable of driving within the card's limitations?

I suppose i'm one of those modern drivers (32), thing is my mpi is admittedly the most basic car i've ever driven, it has no ESP, no ASR and no ABS, combine that with 14" LRR tyres and it can get interesting. In that respect it's just like the significantly lighter and higher powered bikes I spent my formative years riding year round learning how to deal with poor road surfaces, snow, ice and diesel and my personal favorite gravel. I prefer to ride/drive without interference, nothing is more unsettling than the ECU suddenly changing the variables involved as you're correcting though I agree they are a best fit for most occasions for most people but the last 'moment' I had when riding was due to the angle sensor on my bike deciding i'd gone far enough over that it needed to kill the engine to save it from running dry. Problem was by doing so it nearly sent me through a hedge and into a tree. Stopping however would be better with ABS

Do you really think your OH is that incapable of driving within the card's limitations?

I suppose i'm one of those modern drivers (32), thing is my mpi is admittedly the most basic car i've ever driven, it has no ESP, no ASR and no ABS, combine that with 14" LRR tyres and it can get interesting. In that respect it's just like the significantly lighter and higher powered bikes I spent my formative years riding year round learning how to deal with poor road surfaces, snow, ice and diesel and my personal favorite gravel. I prefer to ride/drive without interference, nothing is more unsettling than the ECU suddenly changing the variables involved as you're correcting though I agree they are a best fit for most occasions for most people but the last 'moment' I had when riding was due to the angle sensor on my bike deciding i'd gone far enough over that it needed to kill the engine to save it from running dry. Problem was by doing so it nearly sent me through a hedge and into a tree. Stopping however would be better with ABS

To your first question no, she just drives over my nerves limitations sometimes...

Impressed with your bikes technology. Never knew bikes had that ie 'angle sensor'!

Is it? I see a driving population of young people who can make cars go from A to B at impressive speeds and wrongly believe they are skilled. Too much of the time their driving is littered with mistakes that should have had them off the road in the old days but the various aids pick up the slack, the car stays on the road, they get used to going faster than their ability should allow and they never learn how badly they drive or realise what aspects of their driving need improvement. When the car finally runs out of ability or an aid fails they take themselves and their passengers into a tree or brick wall 20 miles an hour faster than the bad old days, with devastating results.

If so much driving skill is built into the car when, where or why will a new driver learn any of these skills. A skilled driver in a 'passive' car or an unskilled driver in a clever car. You choose.

Nigel

Too true!

To your first question no, she just drives over my nerves limitations sometimes...

Impressed with your bikes technology. Never knew bikes had that ie 'angle sensor'!

Standard on a lot of Suzuki stuff from 10+ years back, I wasn't that impressed mid corner!