What mods does the car need for a stage two map ? And what power would I be expecting to achieve with a good set up ?

Regards Sean

stage 2 map requires

uprated downpipe

uprated intercooler

uprated air filter

uprated dv with stronger spring

along with the power hike you should always remeber a car needs to stop and turn so its a good time to look at suspension and brake upgrades

give me a shout if you want anymore info

all the best

clive

well im already on :

weitec coillies

ebay front mount intercooler

24mm RARB

upper front strut brace still to go on

relocated cold side dump valve forge 008

custom cone filter with 3" cold air feed

all silicone pipes uprated to silicone ,

vac simplificateion n249 n112 delete

have got a center non resonated centon of exhaust to go on when i can be asked to get under the car

I'm looking into remaps at the moment, I've got this setup currently;

-Forge FMIC

-Milltek DP + Sports Cat

-Jetex Cat-Back (Non-Res)

-Silicone TIP

-CAI (behind bumper)

-Recirc Valve (007p)

Originally I was going to opt for a Stage 1 map but I'm thinking Stage 2 seeing as I have most of what is needed in supporting mods engine wise...

Edited 16 July, 201213 yr by Philip W

how do you find the jetex sytsem ? i been looking at em for quite awhile now !

philip your ready for stage 2 buddy

randy its just the downpipe you need buddy thats the restrictive part ebay decat would be good ;-)

when your both ready i can do you a good deal on a stage 2 map ;-)

Thanks Clive but I think I'll be going to R-Tech, been doing lots of research over the past few weeks but keep getting drawn back to these guys.

Randy, it's great. I wanted a system that looked quite stock (tailpipe) but gave a bit extra oomph and noise. When your driving steady you can't hear it at all, when you give it some beans it's noticeable but doesn't shout "look at me", the perfect balance IMHO.

Edited 16 July, 201213 yr by Philip W

you wont go wrong with nick at rtech buddy he will look after you very good mapper and top bloke

all you NEED for a stage 2 is an uprated downpipe and you should see 220-240bhp!

all the other parts will help a bit but all that is needed is a bigger downpipe

suggested parts would be

intercooler

uprated dv

uprated air intake

you could put a stage 2 map on a standard car if you wished jase but its pointless!!!

without fitting a better intercooler system all you will do is get massive heat soak very quickly with more boost and once this happens your power will be cut to naf all and will feel like a barge !!!

the standard dv has a specific design pressure to dump and with stage 2 etc you go past this point as it was designed for 180bhp so to make the most of a stage 2 map the dv is needed with a stronger spring setup

once i have my rolling road i will do some bck to back runs with each bit installed and various stages to show the difference

so you can see what a stage 2 does with heatsoak on oem intercooler etc etc

be fun to play aswell ;-)

Clive,

once i have been down to you for stage 1 i am currently amassing a new cooler and downpipe to go stage 2 so if you need a test subject

how much more boost does stage 2 run over stage 1?only asking as a lot of stage 1 cars are running what a few people say is max for a ko3s

Edited 17 July, 201213 yr by MR G

you could put a stage 2 map on a standard car if you wished jase but its pointless!!!

without fitting a better intercooler system all you will do is get massive heat soak very quickly with more boost and once this happens your power will be cut to naf all and will feel like a barge !!!

the standard dv has a specific design pressure to dump and with stage 2 etc you go past this point as it was designed for 180bhp so to make the most of a stage 2 map the dv is needed with a stronger spring setup

once i have my rolling road i will do some bck to back runs with each bit installed and various stages to show the difference

so you can see what a stage 2 does with heatsoak on oem intercooler etc etc

be fun to play aswell ;-)

Thats pish as the octy uses the same dv as the lcr!

What im saying is.... All that IS needed is the downpipe

Other parts are recommended yes but not a necessity thats what i was getting at.

Personally i have an fmic, carbonio and forge 007p with a yellow spring, my limiting factor is the standard dp

the d/v is the same jase you are correct, but then so is the boost pressure!!

the d/v is the same jase you are correct, but then so is the boost pressure!!

is it even with a ko4 and 225bhp?

my mate had a stage 1 lcr on the stock dv and it worked

i've read on here numerous people saying the stock dv is fine? guess if thats the case its internet b.s?

if reliability is your concern then the need-list is more than a dp.

and

there's a diff between a stg1 and stg2 map. the hardware

So with my mods ? A 3 " down pipe would make me ready for a stage 2 map ??

is it even with a ko4 and 225bhp?

believe it's there or thereabouts, certainly not remapped boost pressure

no arguments form me here the list i have put up its what imo is needed to make the most of stage 2 tuning

if you want stage 2 software on a standard car its poss but why would you???

yes randy 3 inch dp and away you go :-)

mapped a car today gone from standard to stage 2 and omg awesome im sure the customer will giggle like i did ;-)

dom 500 we shall talk when you come next month ;-)

i really dont want to de cat aswel tho ! could i run std cat or idealy run a 100/200 cell hi flow sports cat ?

randy the restriction is not the cat its the dp between the turbo and cat its like a snake with a swollen throat i.e small and restrictive lol

you could get a ebay decat and weld the standard cat onto it

hth

all you NEED for a stage 2 is an uprated downpipe and you should see 220-240bhp!

all the other parts will help a bit but all that is needed is a bigger downpipe

suggested parts would be

intercooler

uprated dv

uprated air intake

True a stage 2 mapped car could see 220-230bhp without listed mods , but not consistantly and reliably.

But you know that Jas buddy, suggested list is a more appropriate way to go to avoid heat soak and get best from car .

how much more boost does stage 2 run over stage 1?only asking as a lot of stage 1 cars are running what a few people say is max for a ko3s

Quite a bit more buddy, Stage 1 typically take the car from 180bhp to around 205-210 max bhp over a stage 2 being around 220 - 230bhp, but it is not the BHP it is the torque with around 10% more on a stage 2 that gives the power delivery and boost over a stage 1.

is it even with a ko4 and 225bhp?

my mate had a stage 1 lcr on the stock dv and it worked

i've read on here numerous people saying the stock dv is fine? guess if thats the case its internet b.s?

yep beleive the K04 LCR is same DV, and folks can run with std DV on a mapped car,but as the std DV is not very reliable and a MK1 VRS is now getting on a bit an original DV is likely to not hold the boost well so that is why most folks recomend a replacement or uprated. I had to change my Forge DV to a yellow stiffer spring when i got mapped to make mine run better

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So with my mods ? A 3 " down pipe would make me ready for a stage 2 map ??

yep sure is buddy..

randy the restriction is not the cat its the dp between the turbo and cat its like a snake with a swollen throat i.e small and restrictive lol

you could get a ebay decat and weld the standard cat onto it

That is the way to go Clive and much cheaper than a sport cat like MIltek etc. I just went decat and now waiting for a good mapper to replace my REVO stage 2 , wonder who that is.....

I also dont want a decat!

Probs just going to save for the milltek cat and dp as i cant be assed with the ballache of welding a a bigger dp to the stock cat

Edited 17 July, 201213 yr by BigJase88

I also dont want a decat!

Probs just going to save for the milltek cat and dp as i cant be asses with the ballache of welding a decat to the stock cat

nor can I which is why I went full decat and have a spare blueflame sport cat/downpipe for MOT time(although this time lucky and had a friendly MOT guy)

was reading on the AmD site that you need a 4 bar fuel pressure regulator? is this not the case?

Edited 12 August, 201213 yr by Muppje