Hi

I have recently bought a MkII CR170 VRS hatch. Loving it, but the remote boot unlock seems to behave slightly strangely. I was hoping someone could confirm that this is not normal behaviour before I take a trip to the dealer ( 3 month warranty remaining ;o)

When I hold down the boot unlock button on the remote briefly it unlocks the boot (ok so far)

When I hold down the boot unlock button on the remote for about 2 seconds it releases the lock and opens the boot slightly (also OK)

however

about 2 seconds after opening the boot there is a whirring noise and it relocks again. Even stranger having opened itself slightly when the remote button was pressed it is now locked but not completely shut. You can move it up and down a fraction but not open it.

I could understand it relocking after a reasonable period for security reasons but to lock itself slightly ajar after a period so short you literally have to unlock it with the remote in one hand and open with the other to beat the relock I am assuming is a fault. given that the point of this feature would be to help when you have your hands full this really does defeat the object.

Please can someone confirm how this works on their car.

Thanks

Mine unlocks and pops up slightly, complete with "re-lock" noise. All I do is grab the release handle, squeeze and lift, and the tailgate is fully open.

You need to press the boot release button on the boot.

Even fords behave this way, so assume almost all brands do this.

Same as mine.

Caution, having "unlocked" and opened the boot this way, when you close the boot it will lock again. If your keys are inadvertantly dropped on the boot floor whilst struggling with packages, you will now be locked out of the car!

I prefer the door unlock button. Since you have to use the handle on the boot anyway, I've never seen the point of the extra button.

Even fords behave this way, so assume almost all brands do this.

my wife's Ford Fiesta doesn't behave like this. If you press the open boot button on the remote it opens the boot and it stays open. But then it doesn't have a release button on the tailgate at all so that's the only way it can work really.

Still seems slightly odd to me but If this is normal on the Octavia then so be it.

Thanks for the replies

Mine was popping up and then relocating itself. Even pressing the boot release button above the numberplate wouldn't open it. The dealer realigned something and it now works as it should.

Yeah faulty lock by the sounds of it. If the central convenience module detects a faulty lock it will.automatically re lock the affected door or in this case boot.

Can't remember mine doing this, but even if it did, now i've stuck die springs on the pistons, it'll never go anywhere near to closing and re-locking without manual force pushing it shut as it now pops fully open as soon as I click the button.

Flippin' love that mod!

Another one here for not understanding the point of the 'boot' button on the remote.

All it does is increase the liklihood of someone locking the keys inside the car and leaving you stranded.

If pressing it resulted in the boot unlocking and actually fully opening then great, but it doesn't.

After unlocking / unlatching the boot using the remote you then still have to lift open the boot so still need a free hand and will still get your hands dirty in winter.

Pointless.

Hence the springs.

Another one here for not understanding the point of the 'boot' button on the remote.

All it does is increase the liklihood of someone locking the keys inside the car and leaving you stranded.

Okay, am I missing something here? I don't understand how you can lock yourself out?? If I pressed the button (pre-mod this is), it would open a fraction, but even if I opened it fully and dropped the keys in, it never re-locked when I closed the tailgate, so regardless of whether I shut it again with the keys in, it wouldn't be locked anyway and i'd just open it up.

Is this some bonkers new thing on fl's or hatchbacks or summat where as soon as you close the boot after opening it via the button, it autolocks, cos i'm lost as to what you're all banging on about??!

IF you pressed the button, it popped open a tiny touch, and THEN relocked itself, well that's no big deal cos it wouldn't have opened it enough to drop your keys in in the first place, so that makes no sense either!

Edited 7 September, 201213 yr by blackspaven

Yeah, I've remember the thread on the springs, may be time to revive it if anyone can find it!

Don't they fail over time or was a stronger/stiffer spring discovered?

If I remember correctly the fact you had to have bright red or blue springs put me off

Yeah, I've remember the thread on the springs, may be time to revive it if anyone can find it!

Don't they fail over time or was a stronger/stiffer spring discovered?

If I remember correctly the fact you had to have bright red or blue springs put me off

I had a company near me which let me test run a few and they only charged a fiver once i'd worked out what I wanted.

Basically, the one's I tried first were powder coated black (which is why I was VERY happy!), but they failed about 30% of the time so I went up to their ultra heavy duty orange ones which only fail when it's cold as I presume the metal must be harder. The equivalent ones from the suppliers mentioned on the thread you're thinking of would be the yellow springs. There's no set that does it 100% cos temperature seems to make the difference, BUT even when they don't spring the boot lid fully, they do pop it up a good few feet to horizontal so it means you don't have to pull the underside catch.

Now THAT is a nonsense, that you have to press the button AND THEN still do what you would do anyway! Never understood that.

I don't think anyone found an answer to this for hatchback boots though cos they're too heavy and the travel is too far.

Hence the springs.

Okay, am I missing something here? I don't understand how you can lock yourself out?? If I pressed the button (pre-mod this is), it would open a fraction, but even if I opened it fully and dropped the keys in, it never re-locked when I closed the tailgate, so regardless of whether I shut it again with the keys in, it wouldn't be locked anyway and i'd just open it up.

Is this some bonkers new thing on fl's or hatchbacks or summat where as soon as you close the boot after opening it via the button, it autolocks, cos i'm lost as to what you're all banging on about??!

IF you pressed the button, it popped open a tiny touch, and THEN relocked itself, well that's no big deal cos it wouldn't have opened it enough to drop your keys in in the first place, so that makes no sense either!

Does yours not automatically lock 2 seconds after closing the boot when you've used the boot button?

Hence the springs.

Okay, am I missing something here? I don't understand how you can lock yourself out?? If I pressed the button (pre-mod this is), it would open a fraction, but even if I opened it fully and dropped the keys in, it never re-locked when I closed the tailgate, so regardless of whether I shut it again with the keys in, it wouldn't be locked anyway and i'd just open it up.

Is this some bonkers new thing on fl's or hatchbacks or summat where as soon as you close the boot after opening it via the button, it autolocks, cos i'm lost as to what you're all banging on about??!

IF you pressed the button, it popped open a tiny touch, and THEN relocked itself, well that's no big deal cos it wouldn't have opened it enough to drop your keys in in the first place, so that makes no sense either!

On my 08 Scout if you use the remote button to open the boot (with the car locked) then on closing the boot it relocks itself and alarms the car rather than having to then press the lock button.

I do use this occasionally when needing to be in the boot but not the rest of the car, but it would be no loss if it didn't work like this.

Aaah, gotcha. Yes, I believe it eventually locks itself IF I have only opened the boot without unlocking the whole car first, but I think i've done that once in four years, and normally just unlock the car. Perhaps that's why i've not noticed it cos I don't really do it like that. Normally i'm getting in or out the car so the whole thing's unlocked.

Kinda like that thing where the car locks itself again if a door isn't opened within 30 seconds.

Edited 7 September, 201213 yr by blackspaven

Aaah, gotcha. Yes, I believe it eventually locks itself IF I have only opened the boot without unlocking the whole car first, but I think i've done that once in four years, and normally just unlock the car. Perhaps that's why i've not noticed it cos I don't really do it like that. Normally i'm getting in or out the car so the whole thing's unlocked.

Kinda like that thing where the car locks itself again if a door isn't opened within 30 seconds.

Don't know about eventually, my relocks as soon as you close the boot, so close the boot - realise you put keys down in boot to pick something else up = too late you are locked outa the car with keys locked inside. Not happened yet but I am very concious of not letting it happen.

Don't know about eventually, my relocks as soon as you close the boot, so close the boot - realise you put keys down in boot to pick something else up = too late you are locked outa the car with keys locked inside. Not happened yet but I am very concious of not letting it happen.

We have a yeti a golf and a transporter, they all do this. Standard vw feature

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I'm with silver on this one, totally pointless and risky if you haven't opened the car first. In fact I've looked on my maxidot at whether it can be disabled, but on a pre-FL model its not an option. Maybe VCDS can do it..

I use the feature all the time, you don't have to then press the lock button when you arms are full of stuff. Normally just get my keys a little way out of my pocket as I did once lock my keys in the boot due to cleaning the car at work and it started to rain a few hours after putting them in there. Thankfully my wife was coming out to see me as I staying in the flat. It's only happened that once in 20,000 miles of driving so not too bad. Like I say, I keep the keys in my pocket now

Hi. I have a similar problem, but in reverse. I have a skoda scout '09.  A few months ago the boot open warning light popped on for no reason... Boot was closed. Then it would pop open for no reason. Then it refused to close. My mechanic replaced the boot lock saying it was a common fault - but I told him I thought it was something more.  And needless to say, it still wouldn't close (although a bit better behaved than it had been).  Then about a month ago it refused to open. At all.   Then this morning, I got in the car and the warning light popped on. I assumed I'd left the back door open but hadn't.  Yes, you've guessed it, the boot had popped open. I closed it and tried to open it again, unsuccessfully.  However this evening, I got into the car, turned the engine on, switched the headlights on and the boot popped open. Got out of car. Boot wouldn't close. Turned engine off. Boot wouldn't close. Turned lights off. Boot closed! Yes!  But... when I started it up and turned on the lights, the boot popped.  So at the moment, when I gave the headlights on, the boot is also open.  Any suggestions at all??? 

Sounds like either a dodgy earth to the boot lid electronics, or a short between the light wiring (probably that going into the boot for the number plate light) and the boot lock wiring. I would start by checking the wires where they enter the boot lid, up near the hinges, breaks are a common theme on the front doors so may also affect the boot.