2008, 2010, 2012........doesn't matter, we're simply saying the vRS CAN have hill hold.

no one, nor i, ever implied it came as "standard" on the vrs.

Has been fitted?..not in the UK

Can?...perhaps..Is it an option or standard on Australian models?

It isnt here

Don't think Hill Hold is an option in Holland

Doesn't have hill hold. It will roll back on a steep hill as it is a clutched auto or a clutchless manual depending how you look at it. When the brake is released the clutch needs to engage, it is this split second delay that allows the car to roll back.

You need to apply the handbrake on a steep hill, exactly the same as you have always needed to in a manual without hill hold!

I'd agree - shhh don't mention the handbrake though - some people think its like returning to the Stone Age

Can't comment on the Octy vrs DSG but I have an S tronic S4, I didn't spec the hill hold but i have not had any issues on hills and I'm yet to pull up on a hill and have the car roll back. People who have it say its money well spent but for me I really can't see any benefit with it.

Another thread where we both post on hill hold! That must be two on here and about ten on RS246. You know my thoughts on hill hold.

I'd agree - shhh don't mention the handbrake though - some people think its like returning to the Stone Age

Or electric windows

Has been fitted?..not in the UK

Can?...perhaps..Is it an option or standard on Australian models?

It isnt here

it was made standard from my11 onwards on the australian spec.

Or electric windows

Windows? Over rated new fangled wizardry...they will never catch on

Hill Hold Control: The Hill Hold Control allows easy starting up the hill without the risk of unwanted rolling backwards or using the handbrake. When the driver releases the brake pedal (when the hill gradient is more than 5%) after stopping on the hill, the HHC keeps the pressure in the brake system for 1 or 2 seconds. In this interval, you can launch easily without rolling. According to the latest brochure, this is standard on S and above.