Hi all, I know this has been touched on by Bryanp with a simular question but i'm getting a bit concerned that i have a problem with my 2.0Tdi 170 4x4 Elegance and excessively high fuel consumption, I have filled it up 3 times now since i've had it and struggled to get near 350 miles before the light comes on! I do mostly an 11 to 12 mile trip to work and back on A/B roads and traveling to see relatives and shopping, all short journeys of 4-5 miles, like i said I'm lucky to get more than to 350 miles before the low fuel warning light illuminates, I worked this out to be about 36mpg, I don't do many long distant journeys except when I tow my caravan and im lucky to hit 27-28mpg. Think problem also is I upgraded from a 1.9Tdi Superb which was brilliant and would hit 450mpg a tank with the same driving and over 30 mpg whilst towing the same caravan.

I must add I have tried to drive more conservatively but the problem with this is the DPF doesn't like it and does a regen nearly every month!

The reason for my concern is when reading similar threads on this forum others are moaning at getting just over 500 miles to a fill up on 2.0Tdi 170's, I would be very happy with that result!

Could it be a problem with the engine mapping, injectors or how I'm using the 6 speed box or am I being harsh and is this what to expect from a lot more power and the added 4x4 with its extra weight especially when doing these types of journeys only?

Edited 14 October, 201213 yr by yesman

i have the 2.0 tdi superb II but the pd engine with 6 speed DSG

i have noticed the engine does not get up to operating temperature until i have done a good 8 to 10 miles or so and until then im only getting 28-30 mpg

once its up to temp i get 35-45 mpg

maybe because of the short journeys you are doing and the fact its 4x4?

Hi all, I know this has been touched on by Bryanp with a simular question but i'm getting a bit concerned that i have a problem with my 2.0Tdi 170 4x4 Elegance and excessively high fuel consumption, I have filled it up 3 times now since i've had it and struggled to get near 350 miles before the light comes on! I do mostly an 11 to 12 mile trip to work and back on A/B roads and traveling to see relatives and shopping, all short journeys of 4-5 miles, like i said I'm lucky to get more than to 350 miles before the low fuel warning light illuminates, I worked this out to be about 36mpg, I don't do many long distant journeys except when I tow my caravan and im lucky to hit 27-28mpg. Think problem also is I upgraded from a 1.9Tdi Superb which was brilliant and would hit 450mpg a tank with the same driving and over 30 mpg whilst towing the same caravan.

I must add I have tried to drive more conservatively but the problem with this is the DPF doesn't like it and does a regen nearly every month!

The reason for my concern is when reading similar threads on this forum others are moaning at getting just over 500 miles to a fill up on 2.0Tdi 170's, I would be very happy with that result!

Could it be a problem with the engine mapping, injectors or how I'm using the 6 speed box or am I being harsh and is this what to expect from a lot more power and the added 4x4 with its extra weight especially when doing these types of journeys only?

I do find this quite strange as I regularly get 340-360 out of a tank in my V6 4x4, albeit in mostly non-town driving. My non 4x4 170 CR before this one regularly gave well over 500 miles per tank - similar journeys. I had ordered the 170 CR 4x4 but changed due to the delivery dates.

Previous respondent is right, in that the diesel engines take a while to warm uo which is probably why you are getting the consumption you are,

You have 4x4, do only very short trips, and if you do make a longer trip, you tow a caravan. And then you're complaining about high fuel consumption? You must be kidding...

I get between 42 - 48mpg on my commute to work dependent on traffic and my right foot.

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You have 4x4, do only very short trips, and if you do make a longer trip, you tow a caravan. And then you're complaining about high fuel consumption? You must be kidding...

So from that helpful comment I take it you think what i'm getting sounds about right for this car? Thats all I wanted clarifying for a bit of peace of mind!

I have the same engine & 4x4, but in the Yeti. It sounds like we have similar short journeys ( I do 3x3 miles a day, with either a 3 or 20 mile run to start, and a few 20 mile trips in the evening/weekends - no caravan/towing though). After 9 fill-ups it's on an average of 40.1mpg (brim to brim calc - maxidot is 44.2). I'd expect your Superb to do better than a Yeti, so 36mpg does seem low. I've found holding it in gear to over 2000rpm before changing (if still accelerating), and being a bit firmer on the throttle, gives slightly better economy than changing up with the maxidot suggestion and taking it slowly. If I drive 'enthusiastically' more than just on the odd occasion then mpg does drop quite a bit. I can do the same short journey and get a maxidot trip 1 figure as high as 50 (boring) or as low as 36 (fun) - all that oomph has to come from somewhere!

I have the same engine & 4x4, but in the Yeti. It sounds like we have similar short journeys ( I do 3x3 miles a day, with either a 3 or 20 mile run to start, and a few 20 mile trips in the evening/weekends - no caravan/towing though). After 9 fill-ups it's on an average of 40.1mpg (brim to brim calc - maxidot is 44.2). I'd expect your Superb to do better than a Yeti, so 36mpg does seem low. I've found holding it in gear to over 2000rpm before changing (if still accelerating), and being a bit firmer on the throttle, gives slightly better economy than changing up with the maxidot suggestion and taking it slowly. If I drive 'enthusiastically' more than just on the odd occasion then mpg does drop quite a bit. I can do the same short journey and get a maxidot trip 1 figure as high as 50 (boring) or as low as 36 (fun) - all that oomph has to come from somewhere!

Suppose the MPG difference could have something to do with the weight difference my 4x4 Superb is 1557kg, where as the Yeti is 1460kg, Nearly 100kg difference, Ironically one of the main reasons of going for the 4x4 was its weight as a standard Superb2 at 1480kg under the weight of my caravan at 1490kg, the extra weight and the 4x4 just gives a bit of piece of mind for towing.

The difference in economy in Skoda's figures between manual 170 estate and manual 170 4x4 estate is ~10%. So extra ~80kg and 4x4 drivetrain is having this effect.

Similar spec diesels can have completely different fuel economy over the same journey. The design of engine, profile of turbos etc. of one engine can suit a particular journey compared to another seemingly more frugal engine. This may be what you are experiencing in your regular journey to work. The journey characteristics may suit the PDi engine better and hence explain the better fuel economy you have experienced.

A crude check to see if your Superb is performing at a similar level to other 170 4x4 estates would be to fill up, take a 50mile min journey on motorway at a low traffic time so that you can maintain close to 70 mph for as much as journey as possible. Fill up again and see what fuel consumption is like. If its ~48-50mpg then it's performing in line with other owners here. I appreciate its a crude, but is probably best that you can do to compare. There are so many differentials that its virtually impossible to get a good comparison based on other people's overall averages.

Cheers

Steve

I'd always assumed the aerodynamics of the Superb would give it quite an edge over the Yeti, but I hadn't looked at the official mpg figures. According to the Skoda website the kerb weights are closer than suggested - 1535 vs 1579, but that's still an extra 45kg to get moving again in stop-start traffic. The extra-urban is identical for both at 53.3, but the urban is down on the Superb - 35.3 vs 40.9 - giving a combined of 47.9 on the Yeti and 44.8 on the Superb. With a large number of short urban trips it's maybe not unexpected to get 36-37 in the Superb if I'm getting 40 on the same sort of use.

Calculating miles per tank is nonsensical, it's useless.

Superb has a 60l tank and has up to 20 litres left when the light comes on. I got 52 litres into my car showing a range of zero km left.

All told, I get 40mpg from my 4x4 CR170.

The OP's fuel consumption is correct, given the very inefficient use of the car, short journeys and cold starts.

Since picking my twin dr 170 4x4 L&K up in September I have got on average 490 miles from a full tank. The highest being 511! Bearing in mind that my old Octavia 2.0TDI returned 560 per tank, I'm pretty pleased with the Superbs' mpg.

Calculating miles per tank is nonsensical, it's useless.

( Brim to brim and using trip milleage will give a reasonably accurate consuption figure, if you know the % innacuracy of your oddometer it can be very accurate. It will also give a good average on all driving conditions )

Superb has a 60l tank and has up to 20 litres left when the light comes on. I got 52 litres into my car showing a range of zero km left.

( It would appear that your tank sender is innacurate, fill up when the fuel gauge is exactly on 1/4 you will get 42 Lt in, my light comes on when there is approx 10 Lt left and certainly does not show zero )

All told, I get 40mpg from my 4x4 CR170.

The OP's fuel consumption is correct, given the very inefficient use of the car, short journeys and cold starts.

My vehicle is not the 4X4, but with a full load of passengers and luggage over 1300 miles of motorway ( rarely under 70 mph ) A B and unclassified roads and North Yorkshire moors I have averaged 46 mpg which I am happy with. If I wanted an economical vehicle I would not have had a Superb. I also know the % innacuracy of my oddometer and will be working out the more accurate mpg in due course.

You dont state how many miles your car has done but going by your figures, it looks like around 1K.

A diesel engine take longer to bed in so once you reach 10,000 miles it should start to return better MPG, after the initial 1K bedding in, give it some welly, then change the oil at 10 K.

I have the Octavia 1.9 estate as a taxi, when I first got it I could only get around 450 a tank, but now with 216000 miles it returns an average 580 a tank, bearing in mind my tank is only 55 litres

I thought I had put a response in to this already but can't see it anywhere.

Anyway, I have a 2.0 TDi 170 Superb Elegance 4x4 - bought it in March and have now done 7500 miles about 2000 of which has been with a 1500Kg caravan on the back through France, Italy & Switzerland.

Tows like a train and is so confidence-boosting when it hardly slows at all on the hills!! Solo is working out about 42-45 mpg and with caravan almost exactly 27mpg - and thats NOT using the on-board computer but a good old fashioned log and calculator!! Yes I am a bit of an anorak over that.

It returns a better mpg both in solo and towing modes than my previous car which was a 2.0 TDi 140 VW Tiguan and is getting better as it "matures".....

I would suspect your concerns Yesman are unfounded and I am sure the consumption will improve over time like most new diesels do - however, no harm in having a chat with your Skoda dealer (assuming he/she knows what they're talking about!)