ok so my 4x4 needs a new rear caliper as its rubbish and i might as well do the discs while im there i understand the vrs discs can be used, 256 vented?

are the just bolt on or does the caliper need moving up ?

also where or what models can i take rear callipers from, i was going to use r32 stuff but cant find any at the moment and i sold my set a while ago :(

cheers guys

Edited 21 October, 201213 yr by boomsly

Straight swap

Nearly all the 180ps+ cars came with vented rears iirc

vRS has them for example

so vrs rear callipers are bolt on, and the discs will aswell, if so that was easy!

The only PITA part is bleeding the brakes

excellent, many thanks for that, now off to find some rear vrs brakes

.

Edited 22 October, 201213 yr by STSKODA

think the tt has 256mm rears, certainly the 225 models do.

to drag this up again, will anniversary mk4 256 stuff fit on? seen a set of them up recently

Buy some new/recon rear calipers, do the job once and forget!

Seizing is a common issue & best replaced with new.

For bleeding them get yourself an eezibleed then it takes 0 effort to bleed the brakes.

to drag this up again, will anniversary mk4 256 stuff fit on? seen a set of them up recently

direct fit

You need the caliper and the carrier

direct fit

You need the caliper and the carrier

top man, you are the go to guy for the 4x4!

messaging him now many thanks

Ok, so I took my calipers and carriers off my vrs. Had them refurbed and painted shiny red. I come to fit them on my 4x4 and the discs (New, mintex) dont line up with the 'slot' in the carrier??? It looks like a spacer behind the disc would fix :0/

I'm guessing the discs I got (vrs) are either wrong or not a direct swap (thought they were). I have 'adjusted' the stone guard so it clears (clutching at straws). Are vrs and tt/r32 discs different 'offsets'?

Confused.com :0(

rears aren't a direct fit iirc, they do need a spacer like this http://www.awesomegti.com/ecs-spacer-bolt-kit-to-fit-225tt-rear-calipers-on-mk4 (don't quote me but am sure this is the one), but i do remember reading about this a while ago which is also an issue for fitting the tt 4x4 256 calipers and setup to 2wd set ups.

Stone guard has to come off - fouls things up a treat iirc

Stone guard has been 'adjusted'... The discs just plain don't fit the carrier. Not a straight swap :0(

No the 2WD carriers are different. Calipers are the same.

You should have got audi tt 4wd rear caliper / carriers

I already had vrs kit. Will have to check Etka to see if I can get the setup working.

intriguing

My rear calipers where sold to me as coming off an Anni golf
I had been assured at the time that all rear vented setups where the same

fitted without issue (apart from splash guard)
Use mintex/pagid disks as sold for vrs and lcr

maybe they didn't really come from a anni - I just bought at face value and fitted

I do have some 100% genuine vrs rears sitting around, I'll have to go have a comparison
 

As said the calipers are the same, the carriers aren't.

Yup the 4wd and 2wd use different carriers

So you can fit the 4wd caliper / carrier with spacers

So you can fit the 4wd caliper / carrier with spacers

 

I think we might be getting confused here

 

Just to be clear

 

No spacers should be required

 

We're not talking about using the single unvented disk caliper either (they go in the bin)

 

The part number for a 4motion/S3 carrier is 8N0 615 425 B

I think we might be getting confused here

Just to be clear

No spacers should be required

We're not talking about using the single unvented disk caliper either (they go in the bin)

The part number for a 4motion/S3 carrier is 8N0 615 425 B

So why does awesome gti sell a 6mm spacer to fit 4wd 256mm vented brakes to a 2wd car then? If no spacer is required? Seems a bit strange for a company to make something up that isn't required?

Im not talking about the 232 rubbish - unless if completely misread the thread?

Unless your talking about replacing a knackered 256 caliper with one from another model, so just changing calipers and using existing carriers

I think thats where the confusion is coming in as calipers are the same just the carriers differ on the 2wd to 4wd

- unless if completely misread the thread? ...

 

  ok, press rewind - a little background

 

The Octavia mk1 4x4 comes from factory with a single unvented 256mm disk, which gets very hot

 

The primary purpose of this upgrade is to get the double (vented) 256mm x 20mm disk onto the Octy 4x4

 

The stock 4x4 rear caliper is too narrow to take the wider vented disk (hence why to ditch it - it has little resell value)

 

So the wider caliper is required, as found on models like the vrs, s3, r32, tt, lcr, etc, etc

 

At the time I had been told  that any vented rear setup would directly fit.

 

I went to ebay and bought a set of vented rears calipers, carriers and disks - allegedly from an Anniversary Edition Golf GTI

 

Fitted without issue - so I naturallly assumed the info I'd been given was correct (this was 3+yrs ago now)

 

 

 

It appears now the 2wd cars use a different rear caliper carrier

 

 

 

As we're talking about upgrading a 4x4 here, the link to the adapter spacer is irrelevant

 

 

In Summary

 

For an Octy 4x4 owner, upgrade rear brakes specifically from a S3, R32 or TT

 

 

 

( and I'm going to try to see what carrier's I've got on my car - if they really came of an anni - well guess that'll be more confusion    )