... the Fabia vRS took to get round the track against the mini

as the other day we had the civic Type R and clio 182

and the review timed them at around 54seconds for the lap

soo just wondered how far behind are little deisel would have been

kk here's the shoot out table from fifth gear...

Shoot-out Table:

Mosler MT900S 48.82

Ducati 999 = 49.25 secs

Vauxhall Monaro V8 = 54.06 secs

MG ZT V8 = 55.60 secs

Lamborghini Gallardo = 49.69 secs

BMW M3CSL = 50:08 secs

Lotus Elise 111R = 51.89 secs

Vauxhall VX220T = 51.96 secs

BMW M3 = 52:08 secs

BMW Z4 3.0 = 53:03 secs

Porsche Boxster 2.7 = 54.60 secs

Old Honda Civic Type R = 54.90 secs

Seat Leon Cupra R = 56.0 secs

Citroen C2 GT = 56.5 secs

Mini Cooper S Convertible 56.37 secs

Ford SportKa = 57.0 secs

Skoda VRS = 57.03 secs

Mini Cooper = 58.03 secs

Smart Brabus Roadster Coupe 58.15 secs

Ford Transit = 61.90

Mercedes Sprinter = 67.2 secs

furby has a good time... but as I said on a previous thread my old car (C2 GT) was quicker than the cooper s convertible! lol... (It's still for sale, on e-bay, three days left, 6 bids , up to

I think you'll find the C2 was 2 tenths slower than the Mini Cooper s...?

Im surprised most by the StreetKa - wolf in sheeps clothing!

I think you'll find the C2 was 2 tenths slower than the Mini Cooper s...?

Im surprised most by the StreetKa - wolf in sheeps clothing!

oh yeah, you're right! (damn! lol..) wonder why they put it above in the rankings? must have been a mistake.......

I find it funny about the test Tiff Nedell did with the Clio 182 against the CTR.

For a start one is a supermini and thefore should be up against it's closest rival the Peugeot GTi 180 and the other is a hot hatch therefore should be against a LCR or new Golf GTi.

Secondly, the Clio 182 they tested wasnt the 182 cup, it was a 182 with Cup options weighing in at more than 20 kg more and has a different suspension setup.

Thirdly for 14k as Tiff Nedell put it (11.5k on Motorpoint) you can get a 182 with all Cup options (xenons, cruise, climate, auto lights/wipers etc, esp), and the official 182 Cup you can get for 10k already (recaro interior and still has A/C). Whereas the CTR costs 16k, maybe you could get it for 14.5-15k at a push and to my knowledge doesnt even have A/C fitted as standard.

Even after all of the above have been taken into account the Clio only went around the track with some terrible driving IMO 2 tenths of a second slower, would you spend 4k more for 2 tenths?

Oh and my final point, Top Gear with stig tested the 182 with cup options (not 182 cup) 2 seconds faster than the revised CTR.

Rant over...

Here's the list in time order:

Mosler MT900S 48.82

Ducati 999 = 49.25 secs

Lamborghini Gallardo = 49.69 secs

BMW M3CSL = 50:08 secs

Lotus Elise 111R = 51.89 secs

Vauxhall VX220T = 51.96 secs

BMW M3 = 52:08 secs

BMW Z4 3.0 = 53:03 secs

Vauxhall Monaro V8 = 54.06 secs

Porsche Boxster 2.7 = 54.60 secs

Old Honda Civic Type R = 54.90 secs

MG ZT V8 = 55.60 secs

Seat Leon Cupra R = 56.0 secs

Mini Cooper S Convertible 56.37 secs

Citroen C2 GT = 56.5 secs

Ford SportKa = 57.0 secs

Skoda VRS = 57.03 secs

Mini Cooper = 58.03 secs

Smart Brabus Roadster Coupe 58.15 secs

Ford Transit = 61.90

Mercedes Sprinter = 67.2 secs

Edit: be interesting to put the on the road prices against em too!

Interesting list! Lotus and Vauxhall VX nearly identical with two totally different powerplants.

Not much difference really between a lot of these cars (and a bike I see!)

Think the 'skoda vRS 'should have a disclaimer saying 'not the octy which would be approx 55.9'

Good on the CTR as well.Impressive