My neighbour was saying this morning that any vehicle with outstanding MOT advisories (ones noted at the last MOT examination 2012) that have not been corrected by the time of the next MOT examination 2013 would fail the examination.

Example: the exhaust on my misses corsa is showing corrosion on the back box, the outer skin on the box is pealing back, she received an advisory stating the exhaust is showing corrosion - taking into account of the above comment by neighbour this would fail during the 2013 MOT examination - Note: The exhaust is not blowing and no signs of sooting around any of the joints or boxes etc.

He also stated that due to a split in the rear bumper of his misses car and that the bumper has not been replaced since the last examination where it was spotted, the vehicle would fail as somebody could cut themselve on the edges of the split.

Is his statements correct or just a pedantic petrol tanker driver.

Regards

Paul.

I think what they're on about are the new stuff you can be failed on this year that were previously only listed as advisories, so you don't suddenly fail with a massive list this time around. I've heard/read nothing about any historic advisories causing a failure. If it has not failed at the time of the test, then it has not failed.

For example a dash warning light was an advisory last year. This year its a fail.

ASAIK they'll just be advisories on the new mot (unless the problem has got worse and deserves a fail)

I've had one repeating advisory on one of my cars for ages. I took the boot opener thing off, so you can't open the hatch from the outside. Apparently it has to be openable from the outside so the boot can be inspected for rust (which I think is wrong, only the front doors have to open) I only got an advisory because the car is fibreglass, so therefore doesn't really need to be checked.

Long story, but basically, I've been fine with a repeated advisory

your neighbour is a knob, if you don't show last years mot cert ( theres no need any more as the computer add's any time outstanding form the data base) then there is know way the tester can see last years advisories.

The tester sees last years advisories as soon as the car is logged on for testing. The central database holds details of all advisories as well as details of previous tests and failures. The tester does not need the previous MOT details with its advisories.

You can also look up the same information on the DVLA website, should you choose to do so.

Surely if it was an advisory last year and the condition has not deteriorated then it will be another advisory this year.

A few years ago I had an old Corsa runaround which had an advisory for welding needed to be done. (Was about 2007/8)

I can't say for sure if it was the same tech, but it was the same garage and went through with no advisory for welding?!

Having a child seat fitted is an advisory as the seatbelt cannot be checked. If he was right then it would be farcical it this example.

The tester sees last years advisories as soon as the car is logged on for testing. The central database holds details of all advisories as well as details of previous tests and failures. The tester does not need the previous MOT details with its advisories.

You can also look up the same information on the DVLA website, should you choose to do so.

big fat wrong, if the test was done at the same mot station the the last mot can be reprinted with no log book or last mot cert number, if it was done anywhere else you need the log book or last pass/fail number, when you log on to do a mot the only thing you can tell from last year is the expery date no other info from last year is displayed take it from a MOT tester , plus you need the same log book or pass/fail to check on DVLA website

My ex wife has a few unfixed advisories from 1991!

Having a child seat fitted is an advisory as the seatbelt cannot be checked. If he was right then it would be farcical it this example.

to fully check the seatbelt the child seat may need to be removed, ok if a booster seat but if its a full seat with belt installation and it was refited wrongly by the tester and the child was killed who is at fault the tester? vosa ? the way round it is advise belt not fully checked

Advisories are just advisory, provided that they haven't deteriorated to an extent that the tester considers them to be below the test standard, they'll stay as advisories - if the tester thinks that they merit an advisory.

The tester can look at last years test on the computer just by entering the registration number in the issue duplicate/replacement documents section if the last test was carried out at his testing station using that computer. This takes time and I don't know a tester who'll go to that trouble, I won't as when I'm testing I need to keep to a schedule, though I do sometimes remember particular cars from year to year.

Boots are not required to be opened as part of the test, only that they latch securely, however a non opening boot is reason to refuse to test or to abandon the test. Front doors have to open from the inside and outside, rear doors have to open from the outside.

Child seats, if they're fitted I'll check the belt as far as I can but not unfasten it and then advise, I also won't spend time emptying a boot full of stuff to check the rear seats and belts in something like a Zafira, I'll advise that they were inaccessible.

There's lots of things that make the MOT farcical, tyres that look bald to the untrained which are legal, sharp edges that can be just taped over, defective rear seat belts that can be removed and in the future airbag warning lights that aren't required to illuminate.

This takes time and I don't know a tester who'll go to that trouble, I won't as when I'm testing I need to keep to a schedule.

I often spend the last 20 minutes of the test chatting to the tester as he ends up finishing the test well before the alloted time!

mots are only valid until you drive out the test centre. I have after market hids a clear mot fail. Replaced with standard bulbs for the mot and car passed went home put hids back in.

mots are only valid until you drive out the test centre. I have after market hids a clear mot fail. Replaced with standard bulbs for the mot and car passed went home put hids back in.

you are way wrong there my friend. There is a time period that the mot station is liable for failures.

you are way wrong there my friend. There is a time period that the mot station is liable for failures.

You get my point though.

you are way wrong there my friend. There is a time period that the mot station is liable for failures.

Really? Liable?

In what way?

I got an advisory for having an undertray and engine cover lol

mots are only valid until you drive out the test centre. I have after market hids a clear mot fail. Replaced with standard bulbs for the mot and car passed went home put hids back in.

Ive had aftermarket hids in various cars over the years and never had an issue for mot. Even asked mot tester at kwik fit who said as long as beam pattern is is ok theres no problem. Have used different garages as well and not one has commented. Have got factory xenons on vrs now so wont have to worry next year anyway.

The thing is an MOT is only a safety check this is why HID get through as long as the beam pattern is ok it passes,its not a legal check of vehicle equipment ie light positions body and wheel protrusions other road users and pedestrians this would be done at an SVA done by VOSA , I remember back when I took my MOT testers course we were told if there was any doubt you passed and advised,but you could advise on a none test item .

to fully check the seatbelt the child seat may need to be removed, ok if a booster seat but if its a full seat with belt installation and it was refited wrongly by the tester and the child was killed who is at fault the tester? vosa ? the way round it is advise belt not fully checked

I know, that's what I said!

My ex wife has a few unfixed advisories from 1991!

There is a time period that the mot station is liable for failures.

I think that you're getting confused with the time limits for appeals against the test result. One month for most items and three months for structural corrosion to prescribed areas.