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I agree on 4x4 Yeti owners not looking down on those that don't need 4x4. :)

You pay your money and take your choice when you decide what you need.

Funnily enough, when you drive like a total loon, the Haldex 4 and ESP combined make the car amazingly balanced and forgiving.

You could say that makes it safer. :)

Not to mention the fact that the additional weight is mostly in the rear, balancing the car better.

On the Briskoda How Fast day we did I was quicker than the Octavia vRS cars in my Yeti.

Despite having a taller, heavier car with more wind resistance and body roll.

When we did Castle Coombe (my car was only 9 weeks old) I overtook 7 cars included several vRS and only got passed by two tuned Fabia vRS mk1s. :giggle:

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  • It's been a while since I've read so much utter crap on a thread like this.

  • Octavia is too big. Golf is too expensive. Audi is even more so. And because it's called Free Choice

  • Not everyone needs 4x4, but they do like the look of the Yeti, the practical body, the higher driving position and a bit of extra ground clearance. I'd have thought it was quite easy to understand.

The Thread Title is, 'What is the point'.

My point was that,

A Yeti 4x4 being driven like a Divvy might be no more safe or capable than a 2WD Yeti being driven sensibly or safely.

A Yeti 4x4 on the wrong tyres for the Cold weather might be no better than a LESSER Yeti driving 2 Wheels on tyres giving good traction.

Cars just being used as designed and as required.

More than that it was a dig at the OP and at Yeti 4x4 owners that think non 4x4 Yeti's are a lesser beast.

I Failed obviously.

george

The OP made no comment regarding cold weather or which tyres are/are not fitted to which variant.

That is another discussion altogether.

Owners of LESSER yetis? It appears that Fabia drivers see the 2wd drive versions as less worthy.

Funnily enough, when you drive like a total loon, the Haldex 4 and ESP combined make the car amazingly balanced and forgiving.

You could say that makes it safer. :)

Not to mention the fact that the additional weight is mostly in the rear, balancing the car.

Indeed.

You are right, the OP said nothing about cold weather or anything like offroad use. (lives in Scotland and has a Yeti 4x4 tho)

just

'If you need 4x4 capability, buy 4x4 otherwise..............'.

So by that merit,

if you want a Robust, Tallish Car without 4x4 capability,

a Yeti will possibly suit better than a Octavia, Golf or Audi 2wd .

I know that a Octavia is no use to me to get in or out, or a Golf, or in fact a Yeti.

(been looking at them & climbing in and out of them again this week.)

Funny how different cars but similar suit different people and their requirements,

and others just do not meet their needs or requirements..

All cars are worthy IMO. I would never dis Yeti owners or cars no mater how many wheels get driven,

No idea what other Fabia owners think.

CBF,

If quoting or posting a quote, especially mine, its not good practice to edit the persons post.IMO

LESSER in capitals must be your use of capitals, not mine, i wrote "lesser" 'post #25

george

I really can't see where this is going, other than the potential for going round in ever decreasing circles!

You make a choice & pay your money. You end up with the car you asked for. If it doesn't suit your intended purpose, then you got it wrong. Each individual is allowed to make their own choice, even if it doesn't make sense (just look at those BMW X6 things!)

I bought a 4x4 because I occasionally tow off grass that I cant risk leaving tyre marks on if I lose traction. (The Grand National Racecourse grass).

I also occasionally go mildly off road in muddy situations (or at least my Yeti does before Bob makes comment).

BUT, a 2WD yeti would probably do most if not all of those things perfectly well if needed. However, the 4WD version gives a greater margin of safety & competency and therefore better peace of mind.

What is common to both is ground clearance, great ride, excellent interior space (in a car that's smaller than a Ford Focus), and value for money.

Surely, the argument is just the same as saying why buy a 160hp 1.8turbo Yeti when you could buy a smaller engined & lower powered one. It would be perfectly adequate nearly all the time, and would cost less to run. Well, yes it would, but I weighed up the options, I made my choice, I'm pleased with it, but I may actually have been equally pleased with a 2WD version. End of story!

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BECAUSE

I

WANT

TO

And it has got nothing to do with any one else!!

And don't worry about George and his views about 4x4 Yeti's, he's biased anyway. After all he drives a Suzuki Jimny. :giggle::kiss::giggle:

& for lots of years now, so they must suit my needs for certain needs.

Its where horses for courses comes into things.

Function over fashion or the, no need to exceed what is required because of others opinions or taste..

Its good to have free choices in life.

Its not like i have not given Yetis a good try, too rich for my needs or tastes as a daily driver really.

& When it comes to needing a Tow Barge they do not meet my requirements, just because of the Tow Limit

or lack of...

Lovely cars tho. while still being Fugly.

george

I drive a Jimny daily all year around

george

Look on the bright side, it saves someone else having to. 1507625.GIF

The good thing is that us that drive them never mind having the pith taken out of us.

&

We just hook up the recovery rope and pull out those proper but bloater 4x4's when they reach their limits and need a help..

george

The good thing is that us that drive them never mind having the pith taken out of us.

&

We just hook up the recovery rope and pull out those proper but bloater 4x4's when they reach their limits and need a help..

george

Glad to hear it, I thought about buying a Jimny years ago but unfortunately but did not get around to it, I think this entire thread is just a bit of a wind up.

regards

Derek

Why buy a non 4x4 Yeti ?.Having owned 3 Fabia estates along with Subaru Imprezas I can't really see the logic in spending money on a Yeti that isn't 4x4 or any of these crossover vehicles come to that. If you need 4x4 capability buy 4x4 otherwise spend your money on an Octavia or Golf or Audi 2wd etc

Most people who buy Yeti don't want 4x4. 2WD Yeti outsell 4WD Yeti in the UK and rest of the world to my knowledge..

People like the looks of a Yeti/4x4, without the considerable extra cost of buying and running a 4x4.

As mentioned above

We have free will.

Thank God for that.

What about all the other 4x4's that are only 2wd like some of the Freelander 2's, RAV 4's & cash cows etc?

Yes, this is a pointless thread....... :yawn:

BECAUSE

I

WANT

TO

And it has got nothing to do with any one else!!

..............................

Exactly.

(Just my opinion)

Apart from the fact the CR170 only comes with 4WD, the handling/grip/stability that the system provides is just incredible. It rolls less than my previous car, a Mk 1 Fabia vRS and has incredible levels of grip in comparison (especially in the damp/wet).

Living next to the Chilterns, the 4WD provides an extra level of safety when in freezing/snowy conditions when going over said hills in the winter (even more so with the winters on). And I think most of us here understand that ultimately grip is compromised by poor road condtions when braking or cornering regardless of the number of wheels driven.

I haven't driven an Octavia CR170 vRS but would imagine it is more likely to spin the front wheels than the Yeti does.

Viewing a Yeti as 'fugly' is probably merely a sign of jealousy. :giggle:

Now, I wonder why Audi invented the Quattro....? :think:

PMSL.

A Diesel Yeti 4x4 is certailnly no 'Son Of Quattro'. not even related other than it is a car and can provide drive to 4 wheels.

&

anyone that looks at the Face of a Yeti and says 'That is lovely', 'Look how pretty it is', probably says the same when they look at a new born baby.

Jealous, no,

i like the Yeti because it has a unique look, Looks a bit like Miranda maybe.

(i wouldnt want to wake up every morning and have to love with it.)

george

PMSL.

A Diesel Yeti 4x4 is certailnly no 'Son Of Quattro'. not even related other than it is a car and can provide drive to 4 wheels.

Just like the Audi A3 and TT that use haldex instead of a proper Quattro system and have a Quattro badge stuck on the back. :D

I am staying out of this one - it was a stupid topic to start with.

But.........

4x4 was never a consideration when buying the Yeti. In fact it was mainly because of it's "Frugly" looks.

And.......

The little Jimny , which was based on the Suzuki SJ series, apart from being well past it's sell by date, is great off road, though terrible on road. We used to trial them, and they would often beat the Landies and RRs, mainly because of their short wheelbase, and they never broke down!

Around here the only Jimny's you see invariably have pink steering wheel covers, pink dice hanging off the mirror and cow patterned covers on the seats. :giggle: :giggle:

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Light the touch paper and !! (OP)

Light the touch paper and !! (OP)

No not this time after the last spat. Just wish that certain other members acted with a bit more thought and consideration and maybe kept their thoughts to themselves.
I haven't driven an Octavia CR170 vRS but would imagine it is more likely to spin the front wheels than the Yeti does.

I tried a CR170 Octavia immediately before a CR170 4x4 Yeti, and your imagination is accurate - it was a slightly damp but not downright wet day and the Octavia really struggled to pull away quickly but without scrabbling. By comparison I don't think my Yeti has ever lost traction except on snow.

I've also tried the Superb CR170 as both FWD and 4x4 and the 4x4 is (in my opinion, of course) vastly better to drive - it corners quicker and more "securely" in particular.

That said I understand completely why people buy FWD Yetis - in most conditions and with most engines you don't need the extra traction, and then you have a more economical car that still has a tiny turning circle, fits into small parking spaces, has a big enough boot for many people, is easy to get in and out of, has good visibility, is reliable, suffers pretty low depreciation and is fun. What's not to like?

In my opinion its just a case of saving money. Cheaper to buy, maintain and run.

I have a 4x4 Octy why? It doesn't have ground clearance to go offroad. Its winter tyres provide much more benefit in the cold. No, I just happened to test drive it on a sodden pouring day and it felt so much more secure and stuck to the road than a FWD one. I could afford the premium for the extra safety and so that was that decision. The same as optionally speccing additional airbags (I really think thats one thing that shouldn't be optional in new cars).

SWMBO really wants a Yeti and she's only looking at 4x4s for the same reason. We can afford the benefits so why not?

the Audi A3 and TT that use haldex instead of a proper Quattro system and have a Quattro badge stuck on the back.

Actually the badge reads "quattro" with a lower case "q". That's what Audi have trademarked, and they splatter it about on anything with an Audi badge which has drive to all four wheels, whether or not it uses the torsen-based system. "Quattro" with an upper case "Q" is reserved for the Audi Quattro ie the actual car (as driven by Gene Hunt :) ).

Why buy a non 4x4 Yeti ?.Having owned 3 Fabia estates along with Subaru Imprezas I can't really see the logic in spending money on a Yeti that isn't 4x4 or any of these crossover vehicles come to that. If you need 4x4 capability buy 4x4 otherwise spend your money on an Octavia or Golf or Audi 2wd etc

I tried both and could not see any great advantage of a 4 x 4 as I do not off road and for the amount of bad weather we get here in East Yorkshire with no hills 4 x 4 did not seem appropriate. As for the other suggestions, I already have an Octavia, prefered the looks and feel of the Yeti to the Golf and appreciated the extra equipment for the price. Had an A3 in the past, not impressed and over priced. Also because I only manage about 7k miles per year mainly non motorway, I discounted the diesel engines due to the DPF problems. The 1.8 TSI petrol is too expensive to run four wheel drive or not. So I settled for the 1.2 TSI and the money I saved went towards the DSG box and panoramic sunroof. Yes there is a point to owning 2 wheel drive Yeti's, ask other drivers I sure they would agree

Actually the badge reads "quattro" with a lower case "q". That's what Audi have trademarked, and they splatter it about on anything with an Audi badge which has drive to all four wheels, whether or not it uses the torsen-based system. "Quattro" with an upper case "Q" is reserved for the Audi Quattro ie the actual car (as driven by Gene Hunt :) ).

Thank you for correcting me.

In future I will refer to Audi quattro models with a lower case q.

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