Latest driver pack recommends Castrol Edge 'Professional'. It's listed on a separate section of the Castrol website; interesting.

I think it's £56 /5 litres.

my vRS has now used 3 litres of oil in 2465 miles

I had exactly the same usage for that mileage, after several visits to my dealer they finally admitted it needed a new engine as 1 or more pistons (dealer very vague on details) hadn't sealed properly in the cylinder block. It took a while to diagnose as there wasn't any smoke out the exhaust (except on 2 occasions) but a strong smell of fuel on the dipstick and there wasn't any change in MPG or performance. My new engine used a liter of oil while it was running in but that has almost stopped now.

Hope this helps.

I had exactly the same usage for that mileage, after several visits to my dealer they finally admitted it needed a new engine as 1 or more pistons (dealer very vague on details) hadn't sealed properly in the cylinder block. It took a while to diagnose as there wasn't any smoke out the exhaust (except on 2 occasions) but a strong smell of fuel on the dipstick and there wasn't any change in MPG or performance. My new engine used a liter of oil while it was running in but that has almost stopped now.

Hope this helps.

Thank you for your post, very useful to know.

All this really makes me wonder. I wish I could somehow see a comparison of costs to VW for three things:

1 - The cost of replacing so many engines under warranty.

2 - The cost of making the 1.4TSi engine Euro5 compliant properly, i.e. sorting out any issues before they let it go into production.

3 - The cost of EU fines if they had used the tried and tested (and reliable) Euro4 compliant version of that engine instead.

If cost No. 1 is lower than either No. 2 or 3, then clearly, VW is having a laugh at the expense of all their affected customers. And that would be a disgrace!

There are two things here

1. VAG is in business of making money

2. Happy customers make money

3. Costs of warranty repairs/engine replacement being lower and less PR damaging than a large re-call of cars

Having balanced the three above the chosen course of action, really frustrating for all those with high oil usage way of prolonged, torturous and in most cases ending in engine replacement route. Probably due to the numbers, they make 75k 1.4 twinchargers a year in their plant in Chemnitz, it works out the cheapest and is PR damaging within their margins. Don't kid yourselves that big motoring press is independent .

What dealerships are doing is another matter altogether and George has the best advice in this respect while Evil Miyagi has the best first hand experience here me thinks .

I had exactly the same usage for that mileage, after several visits to my dealer they finally admitted it needed a new engine as 1 or more pistons (dealer very vague on details) hadn't sealed properly in the cylinder block. It took a while to diagnose as there wasn't any smoke out the exhaust (except on 2 occasions) but a strong smell of fuel on the dipstick and there wasn't any change in MPG or performance. My new engine used a liter of oil while it was running in but that has almost stopped now.

Hope this helps.

My one has used 1 ltr of oil in 4,600 miles with oil showing at 1/2 up the hatched area now. The petrol smell while checking oil is getting stronger and stronger in my opinion. I even had Skoda Assistance (AA Van) turn up after calling dealers as I refused to drive the car. Bloke took the dipstick out, smelled it and said "Nah Gov, all good!".

Me - Don't you have anything more sophisticated than your sneezer to test the oil??

He - Thought about it for a while, whipped his lighter out, put it to the freshly taken out dipstick - See, doesn't light up, no fuel in the oil! I told ya!

I will be dropping oil oil as soon as it gets a little bit warmer and will send it to have it tested in lab to have a concrete proof of what is going on in the engine. Then I will get my wife to translate a long snotty letter to Herr Rothenpieler (Top Cheese in charge of 1.4 twincharge unit in Chemnitz, engine engineer whe actually developed that engine and now is a director of Chemnitz) asking him to comment while sending copies to German and UK press. That should spur them into action a little bit more, don't you think?

This day and age unless it is 2.0l four pot developing +400BHP it has no right to use any oil whatsoever, those days are long gone!

Them writing in their manuals that it is normal for the car to use as much oil as a two stroke motor is simply ridiculous :(

In the UK owners are going to have to keep demanding their Consumer Rights and require the Warranty Work done and charge Skoda for your losses.

Skoda/VAG know the problems are there.

Anyone going out of Warranty better get a move on with Skoda or get Legal action moving,

use Trading Standards.

george

My one has used 1 ltr of oil in 4,600 miles with oil showing at 1/2 up the hatched area now. The petrol smell while checking oil is getting stronger and stronger in my opinion. I even had Skoda Assistance (AA Van) turn up after calling dealers as I refused to drive the car. Bloke took the dipstick out, smelled it and said "Nah Gov, all good!".

Me - Don't you have anything more sophisticated than your sneezer to test the oil??

He - Thought about it for a while, whipped his lighter out, put it to the freshly taken out dipstick - See, doesn't light up, no fuel in the oil! I told ya!

I will be dropping oil oil as soon as it gets a little bit warmer and will send it to have it tested in lab to have a concrete proof of what is going on in the engine. Then I will get my wife to translate a long snotty letter to Herr Rothenpieler (Top Cheese in charge of 1.4 twincharge unit in Chemnitz, engine engineer whe actually developed that engine and now is a director of Chemnitz) asking him to comment while sending copies to German and UK press. That should spur them into action a little bit more, don't you think?

This day and age unless it is 2.0l four pot developing +400BHP it has no right to use any oil whatsoever, those days are long gone!

Them writing in their manuals that it is normal for the car to use as much oil as a two stroke motor is simply ridiculous :(

This is all a bit much isn't it? Is there actually anything wrong with your car?

1lt in 4600 miles from new is nothing.

Skoda/VAG try to make out that they may use more than 0.5 litres per 1000km in the first 5000km.

and that that is an acceptable amount after 5000km dependant on the style of driving

& as we know many are and keep on using that amount.

(that is the guff thats in the Manual for all the engine types and sizes.)

george

Hi guys - fairly new to these forums and stumbled across this thread. I picked up a new vRS in January this year and am delighted with it. It is a CTHE engine, which I was happy about because of worries regarding high oil consumption. Unfortunately after doing just 1400 miles or so my oil light came on. Performed a dipstick test as per the manual and it came back bone dry. The dealership have advised to pop a litre in and then bring it in for a consumption test.

Have to say I'm somewhat annoyed that I have to pay for this until they deem is a warranty issue. How a new car running out of oil after 1400miles isn't a warranty issue I'll never know.....

New engines use more oil. I'm sure this isn't a new thing or an issue related to this engine. If it is still using lots after a few thousand miles then there might be an issue (this is how I see things, someone can correct me if I'm wrong).

Welcome to the forum..

Unless you checked the oil level when hot after you collected it from the Dealer,

do not assume that they had the correct amount of oil in from the car leaving the PDI.

Have you never checked it in the last 1400 miles.?

Did you read the Owners Manual on Oil before now, and about running in?

If there is no oil showing on the dipstick,

1 litre might be enough to put in,

so best do that then run it to normal running temperature and check the oil level.

*Do not overfill*

george

This is the 'VW Polo old Owners Manual',

which you might find is worded differently and clearer than the 'Skoda Fabia Owners Manual'.

Hi grapo - I can appreciate that new engines use more oil but I've owned several cars from new and haven't had consumption issues like this before. I know that Skoda make a point about saying how consumption can be higher for the first few thousand miles. I'm really hoping that this is the case.

sk4gw - thanks for the tips and the link. I didn't check the oil level after collecting it from the dealer - would they really not put the right amount of oil in?! I put the litre of oil in the other day, i'll re-dip when I get home from work. Thanks!

Yes they should check and put the car out with the correct amount of oil. Thats their Job.

Yes they are liable to not check the oil level correctly.

I have checked New, used and Demo Models on forecourts and there are Techs dipping and doing top ups wrongly.

It must be Cold Dips some do & not as per required.

Or some of their eye sights are very different from mines.

That is engines Over Filled

& Under filled & the same can happen from leaving a Service.

The car only takes 3.6 litres.

1 litre short of oil being more than 25% less than it should be running.

Do you know what your Oil Temperature showed at when running say at 70 mph,

before the Oil Warning Light came on?

george

The warning light came on from cold one morning as soon as I started her up. Am mainly using the car for inner-city commuting but the oil tem hovers between 85-90 deg when warmed up.

Hopefully once you are running the correct amount of oil in the engine all will be well,

and no problems with high oil usage.

george

Thanks George - fingers crossed.....

I think its down to using thinner oil in order to achieve lower FUEL consumption figures (thinner = less friction). Mine was a comparative low oil user (about 1 litre/2500 miles) which turned into much lower usage (1 litre/7500 miles) after topping up with 5W40 one day (no 5W30 available at that time of night within a short distance). Coincidence?

Its nice to have 18k service intervals, but if it was own car i'd put 5W40 in it and change it every 10k instead. As new cars come with 5W30 by default (for longlife servicing), this probably explains why most have issues in the first 10k?

I am using 5w 40, and have used 5w 30, and used them back to back on the same days.

(the 5w 40 was a cheap buy)

Not 1 mpg difference in fuel consumption or normal running oil temperature.

If the engine uses oil then the difference between 5w 30 or 5w 40 will make no difference at UK Temperatures

with a Twincharger. JIMHO.

Different brands of oil will or can change the indicated running temperature when driving

the same way at the same ambient temperature.

Best get the engine fixed if it uses too much oil, rather than trying sticking plasters.

Again JIMHO.

http://www.kewengine...y_explained.htm

george

While we at the oil subject (this will never go away I can see...) have a look at this two websites, quite interesting read!

http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30483 - Yank site and oils, still Castrol not doing so well...

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/engine-oil-analysis/ - very good oil testing explanation and what can be glimpsed of internal workings of the engine from it.

Quick update, topped up my oil just before my first mainland trip, car was on 3083 now on 3487, great news! It's only dropped about 2mm on the dipstick since, maybe that nice long run finally sealed things, or am I being hopeful? !!

think mines getting worse, now done 1500 miles and put 2 litres in

Went in for the breather mod today. The car had used approx 2L in 8000km, which I thought was a touch high, despite VW's lenient guidelines. The dealer didn't quibble, ordered in the breather, installed it and topped up the oil.

I need to return in 1000km when they are going to drop the oil to see how much it has used. Hopefully, the breather won't make the issue worse, as it's only used approx 250ml in the last 1300km (mileage picked up while the part was ordered, and before I got around to dropping the car back in). My oil filler hole has been taped up, so I'm not supposed to touch it unless the yellow light comes on, but I can still monitor the dipstick.

If it works great. If it doesn't work (but the consumption is no worse), then so be it. Looks like I'll get a free oil change, so that's one decent outcome.

Next time you speak to them please ask, if it was a 'Breather Modification & an ECU Update that was done'.

Should be an easy enough question for them to answer.

george

It had an ECU update when I was previously in the dealer's, supposedly.

I can't honestly say I really noticed any difference, but if I was forced to nominate something, then maybe first gear feels a little more useful.

Edited 15 April, 201313 yr by OzFabia

I've had the ECU update just need a free day to book it in for the breather pipe. Sick of not having time to do things. My next "day off" is Castle Combe.