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The oil pump failed in my 2.0 Superb (as they make them out of ice cream) a few days ago. I was traveling at 60 MPH when the oil pressure warning light came on. Luckily, there was a laybuy 1/4 mile along and I puled in to that.

I felt a bit of loss of power from the engine as I limped in to the layby and stopped and turned the engine off. The engine would idle ok just before I turned it off. I started the engine for a zsecond again and it would idle.

Had it looked at by JKM in Portsmouth who confirm its the oil pump. They quote £1.8K to replace thia with new cam betl etc etc. They have warmed that because the engine cant run at the moment, they cant confirm if there is any other damage to the engine - but said in 90% of these cases, the rest of the engine is okay.

Any advice

Bugger :|

There's got to be cheaper options than £1.8k. Thought I'd read on here that you could retrofit a better oil pump that has a different drive to it.

Sorry I can't offer any helpful advice, but well done on getting it shut down before it was completely seized.

Gaz

Have noticed on a few occasions that mention has been made of the apparently inadequate design of the oil pump mechanism on the Superb 1 2.0 tdi. Though well-meant I'm sure, the tone of the warnings is such that to anyone of a nervous disposition this problem is lurking only 'just around the corner' whether the car has done 40000 or 140000 miles and you must 'get rid'.

Though not all Series 1 owners are on Briskoda, a good number must be, and there are hundreds, if not thousands of this model on the road. How many owners of this model have actually experienced this problem? One has recently been reported with a repair cost projected at 1.8k but even if the owner wants and can afford to pay this, from the advice seen already on this forum, the inference is that it would be a waste of time because the design fault is so bad, it could fail again in a very short time; ie. it's a permanent time bomb. Might not the manner in which the car is driven be a factor? If a car is generally driven very robustly, (for want of a better word), the chances are that parts will wear and fail more quickly than on a car generally driven in a less vigorous fashion. No guarantee of this of course but on balance probably true. I'm trying to put this into perspective and certainly not trying to diminish what rotodiesel and others say, (I respect the effort they put into trying to help other users), but I think it would be helpful to all Series 1 owner with this engine to know how many there are of us, what mileage our cars have done and, if they have had the problem, roughly at what mileage it happened. I have an Elegance with everything on it currently showing 75000 miles and have not experienced it. A great car but with the 'water problem' which I am sorting out.

Great forum this.

ive done a few

in most cases it does the turbo as well

From what I can gather the issue is not so much poor design, but more a case of faulty balance shaft modules being fitted to certain 2.0 litre PD engine variants. Whether any particular mk 1 2.0 Superb is fitted with one of this faulty batch of balance shaft modules or not appears to be luck of the draw. Some fail at 30k, some go on forever with no problems. Driving style seems to be largely irrelevant.

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All repaired now. Turbo went as well due to oil supply being cut off.

Total bill £3.4K.

Work is covered for 2 years now, parts and labour, so will keep the car until then then sell.

Avoid the 2.0!

Total bill £3.4K.

Ouch!!! :no: :S :'(

Gaz

All repaired now. Turbo went as well due to oil supply being cut off.

Total bill £3.4K.

Work is covered for 2 years now, parts and labour, so will keep the car until then then sell.

Avoid the 2.0!

Apparently they don't tend to fail again once fixed. I'd be inclined to hang on to it now to get my money's worth!

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Apparently they don't tend to fail again once fixed. I'd be inclined to hang on to it now to get my money's worth!

I believe the replacement pump is modified but still not 100% reliable.

Anyone have any info on this?

I've certainly heard of 2 litre Passats where the pump has failed at a very low mileage, been replaced, and the car has then gone on to complete another 200-300k of taxi work with no further issues. Interestingly there is a guide to buying mk1 Superbs in Car Mechanics mag this month and they reckon the 2.0 TDi is a good buy as long as you make sure the previous owner has already paid out for the oil pump drive to be changed!

Has anyone seen this? A mod on this US site to delete the balance shaft assembly oil pump for some 2.0 engines. I wonder if this is useful for peeps with 2.0 time bombs here?

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/b5/oil-pump-failure-passat-tdi.htm

scroll to about 1/4 from the bottom.

"UPDATE:: the most reliable repair is to completely delete the balance shaft assembly-oil pump and replace it with an oil pump from an ALH engine. The reason why it's more reliable is because the balance shaft assembly retains the hex drive for the oil pump which is a possible failure point."

  • 4 months later...

Hi guyz, is anyone knuw good place to change balance shaft oil pump in Essex area?

 

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