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Used 2.0 PD TDI with DSG - Safe buy?

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Not a very exciting question for a Tuesday morning :)

I'm looking to change my existing petrol Octavia for a diesel. I would like an auto just because I love the DSG in out fabia. My budget will only stretch to about £12k depending on trade in so its a PD rather than CR engine for me by the looks of it for a lower mileage car. I’ve got my eye on a 2010 2.0 PD TDI with DSG - 30,000 miles.

Anything i should be put off by with this type of Octavia? Apart from my current car getting a bit long in the tooth (102k miles) I am after some better economy too and a CR engine seems a lot more efficient than a PD one but they are still too expensive for a lower millage car..

I’m a bit torn/frustrated by what I want and what I can afford. I was looking at multitronic A4's too but have seen some bad reports about problems with them, particularly as my £12k would mean a higher mileage Audi.

Any advice approciated, maybe with a side order of what MPG I could expect in reality! :)

Im pretty sure any 2010 2.0 TD IS the CR engine!

Im 95% certain that would be a CR, try to get a look at the engine bay if the engine looks like this (note the slanted design of the grey bits) its a CR:

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IF it looks like this, its a PD:

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With your budget, you should be able to pick up a nice example from a Skoda dealer with a decent warranty for piece of mind.

The 6 speed wet clutch DSG fitted to the 2.0 diesels are pretty reliable. My 2006 2.0 TDI PD DSG has done 73,000 miles without a hitch.

I agree that a 2010 car is going to be CR rather than PD......and with your budget I think I'd aim to get a CR. You should get low 50's MPG without too much trouble on a 2.0 TDI CR DSG.

In summary.....yes it is a safe buy!

Edited by booke23

BTW the PD engine is actually rather good and as it delivers its punch lower down the rev range is rather more efficient on MPG :rock:

Theres a few on autotrader claiming to be PD rather than CR. Heres the one I was looking at

http://www.autotrade...rs?logcode=visc

I've noticed quite a few Octavia VRS's for sale that are listed as PD engines rather than CR when I'm pretty sure they must be CR...then again I've also noticed quite a few 'estates' for sale that are most definitely hatches from the pictures.

John

Edited by JohnMcL7

BTW the PD engine is actually rather good and as it delivers its punch lower down the rev range is rather more efficient on MPG :rock:

The PD engine is good, and it produces a lot of low down torque. But it's definitely not as economical as a CR.

For this reason, if you have the budget I think a CR is a better buy.

Im pretty sure any 2010 2.0 TD IS the CR engine!

If you're talking about the 170 bhp version, yes it will be CR. The VRS 170 changed over to CR much earlier than the rest of the range, which is often what causes the confusion.

If its the 2.0 140 bhp version, that was PD until mid/late 2010 so its very likely any 10 plate 140 would be PD rather than CR.

If you're talking about the 170 bhp version, yes it will be CR. The VRS 170 changed over to CR much earlier than the rest of the range, which is often what causes the confusion.

If its the 2.0 140 bhp version, that was PD until mid/late 2010 so its very likely any 10 plate 140 would be PD rather than CR.

Thanks for the info, as you have said, I knew the VRS changed pretty quick, wasnt sure about the rest, best way to tell is still by looking at the engine though!

If its the 2.0 140 bhp version, that was PD until mid/late 2010 so its very likely any 10 plate 140 would be PD rather than CR.

The changeover to CR must, by law, have happened by September 2010, to comply with Euro 5 emissions.

In reality the CR was probably available a month or two before September, but it was still legal to sell the PD till then........so to guarantee a CR, it'd have to be post September 2010 model.

The changeover to CR must, by law, have happened by September 2010, to comply with Euro 5 emissions.

In reality the CR was probably available a month or two before September, but it was still legal to sell the PD till then........so to guarantee a CR, it'd have to be post September 2010 model.

ISTR the Scout TDi 140 going over to CR in mid summer 2010, with the fwd 140s following a couple of months later, probably changing just before the September deadline as you say. Certainly my recollection was that Skoda were registering some Euro 4 PDs right up to the very last minute.

I remember a few people on here at the time saying they ordered a new PD140 engined Octavia in early 2010 but by the time it arrived they had actually been supplied with a CR140 instead.

Certainly my recollection was that Skoda were registering some Euro 4 PDs right up to the very last minute.

I'm sure they were......probably quite a panic on to get any PD stock shifted before the deadline!

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Thanks guys. I will certainly look inder the bonet of any cars i view. The dealer selling the one I was looking at is offering a shocking trade in price for my car so its not looking quite so attractive now. I might go manual rather than DSG and save some money.

I find the clutch travel quite long and a little heavy/awkward on the 2.0 FSI I currenly have but Ive managed to come for 40,000 miles so I'm sire I can do the same in a newer diesel :)

My estate registered 13/6/2010 is most definitely a BKD 2.0 140 hp PD engine, more than happy with the performance of this engine, no injectors issues, it has Bosch injectors, best thing no DPF on this engine.

I paid £12700 for a 2010 facelift DSG CR with 24k on the clocks, some skoda warranty still left on and xenons. Slightly more than your budget, but there are some CR out there within your reach.

Consider the economics of diesel vs petrol for purchase price vs economy.

I picked up a 2010 1.8TSI DSG Elegance at the weekend for £7699. 58k on the clock, but even so I reckon my additional fuel bill over the 4 years I'll have it won't approach an extra £5k.

Consider the economics of diesel vs petrol for purchase price vs economy.

I picked up a 2010 1.8TSI DSG Elegance at the weekend for £7699. 58k on the clock, but even so I reckon my additional fuel bill over the 4 years I'll have it won't approach an extra £5k.

Not directly comparable as the op is looking at diesel cars with half the mileage of your car.

Even so, after 4 years how much will your car be worth compared to a simar diesel car?..........definitely less. This could largely cancel out the greater purchase price of the diesel.

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I've had my car for 3 years and taken it from 60k to 102k in that time so I think a diesel would be a better bet. Trying to start out at lower miles this time tho :)

Been temped by a yeti too, although it would be a 110bhp CR engine. Not sure it will have enough wellie but I do line them. Going to have a good think before I buy!

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