Can anyone tell me if my 2012 Vrs has got hill holder fitted please?, if it has it does'nt seem to be working.

Any tips to setup or using it would be very helpful.

If it is fitted then you need do nothing to set it up.

DSG or Manual?

DSG - face up hill, handbrake off, select D, take foot of brake then put it back immediately - if the pedal is rock hard then you have HHC. Take foot off brake again and keep it off - you shouldn't roll back down the hill.

Manual - sorry, don't know - never driven one.

Manual transmission,but handbook, in my humble opinion, seems very vague at best about what's fitted to what, options on varying models etc, so being new to Octavia I am still on a voyage of discovery!

The handbook is probably identical on all Octavias. That's the case on most if not all cars. It's up to you to know which features your car has and skip the irrelevant chapters.

I've never driven a manual car with hill hold but I'm fairly sure it engages automatically and holds the car while you lift the clutch. I've heard somewhere that it lets go after X seconds if you don't make an attempt to pull away. On my DSG TSI it disengages automatically when the clutch starts to bite.

VAG cars have something called "PR numbers" which are printed on the sticker in the service booklet. There's also a copy hidden in the spare wheel well. I don't know if the PR numbers cover things like hill hold but we in the parts trade use them frequently to figure out what kind of brakes (for example) a certain VAG product is fitted with.

On this sticker, "5SG" translates to "Left exterior mirror: flat". http://prsearch.planetvag.com is something I just googled so I don't know how correct it is, but it's worth a shot.

Thanks guys for taking the trouble to point me in the right direction.

This Forum is it seems friendly and helpful, unlike some where an innocent question, maybe obvious to others but puzzling to you gets a person "flamed"

Tried to enable this today on RickST170s Blackline Manual, ABS module didn't like it.

This is his module

Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb

Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BK HW: 1K0 907 379 BK

Component: ESP MK60EC1 H31 0152

Revision: 00H31001

Coding: 163B601C092200FA680C06ED901E0082340800

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00064

VCID: 7CFDD38FFF0887F87D4

No fault code found.

How did you obtain the part number for the abs pump/module. Ie 1K0 907 379 BK. My dealer can't find anything like this number on there record of my car parts 2012 Blackline dsg hatch.

they or you will have to get the diagnostic tool to access the ABS brakes (03)

 

best bet is to find someone with vcds

My 2012 vRS manual, does not have "hill hold" but the wife's Citigo SE, which cost a third of the vRS has it.

On a manual isn't there a button by the handbrake? Auto's it's automatically operated

Our 2010 vRS TSI is a manual and it doesn't have hill hold, but it does have a handbrake, a clutch and an accelerator pedal...

 

Which makes me wonder - hill starts were part of the driving test when we learnt to drive.  If it's still part of the test then isn't having hill hold cheating???

Not sure the OP asked how to do a hill start

Took it he or she asked if "hill hold" was a feature on a 2012 vRS.

AFAIK hill starts are still part of the test, so they get it easy these days. Think they have stopped having a man running in front with a flag too......lol

My manual Scout does have Hill Hold, as did my A1 DSG I had before that. All you would experience as a driver is taking your foot off the brake pedal and for four or five seconds it's as if your foot is still on it. This gives you time to engage gear and pull away. It uses sensors to determine angle of slope, and applies HHC where it deems it necessary.

Hill hold on a manual: get on a slop, stop, take your foot off the brake. If you go back you haven't got it, if the brakes remain on for approx 3 seconds then you have.

My 2011/61 Leon FR 2.0TDi has it.

Even if the car doesn't do it doesn't mean that it can't be coded.

 

It is however dependent on what ABS pump is fitted

Even if the car doesn't do it doesn't mean that it can't be coded.

 

It is however dependent on what ABS pump is fitted

 

Also requires ESP I think as it needs the sensor.

 

Phil

The ESP is built into the pump

 

so as I said above, it depends on the ABS pump

My 2012 vRS TDi DSG definitely has Hill Hold although the coding label in the boot doesn't list it.  I have found that it needs a firm press on the brake pedal to set Hill Hold - just a light press (but enough to hold the car on the hill) does not set the HH.  In my view HH is a bit pointless with DSG as I can easily use my left foot, or even the 'old-fashioned' hand brake, to stop run-back during a hill start.  However, my wife thinks HH is a great feature, but then she has never used the DSG in any mode except Drive/Reverse/Park and has no interest whatsoever in using the steering wheel mounted paddles.  And as for actually touching the brake pedal with her left foot .....

In my view HH is a bit pointless with DSG as I can easily use my left foot, or even the 'old-fashioned' hand brake, to stop run-back during a hill start.

 

Meh, I don't know. I've never needed hill hold in a manual car. I just always hold the car with the clutch during the second it takes to move your right foot from the brake to the throttle. 

You can't do that in a DSG since there is no clutch pedal. And since VAG is marketing DSG as a replacement for a normal automatic, you need HH to make it behave like one. An automatic doesn't roll back since it always is in gear. 

I'd love hill hold in my 2012 man CR VRS if it could be coded.

I have it on my 2010 transporter manual 4motion and it is a god send starting off on steep muddy fields

Meh, it's okay. Bit of a pain at times cos you can't overide it when it switches on on my manual car. Have to wait until it disengages until you can move. If you put your foot on the brake whilst it's 'on', the pedal only goes down about a third of the way. Stays on for about 4 seconds then switches off automatically, regardless of what you do.

 

Just sometimes feels like you're a learner driver again; the age when you're learning about getting the bite on the clutch and the car lurches forward but stays put because the handbrake is still on!

Meh, I don't know. I've never needed hill hold in a manual car. I just always hold the car with the clutch during the second it takes to move your right foot from the brake to the throttle. 

You can't do that in a DSG since there is no clutch pedal. And since VAG is marketing DSG as a replacement for a normal automatic, you need HH to make it behave like one. An automatic doesn't roll back since it always is in gear. 

Good point.  I can see why some-one coming from a 'normal' auto would want HH on the DSG, although the need to put extra pressure on the footbrake to activate HH still makes its operation different to a 'normal' auto.  I look on the DSG as a computer controlled twin-clutch manual box rather than a replacement for a 'normal' auto.