Came to that time of year where the car is serviced and MOT'd... I was expecting a clean bill of health and therefore the noise of knackered bushes and an extra £200 on the bill was a bit depressing.

However, after having read plenty about it on here I asked them to fit the Cupra bushes as the price was basically the same.

Wise choice? I have zero mods on my 1.9td 100pd but I'm sure it won't harm the handling...

If the price is the same I don't see the harm!

will be fine, you will notice it tighten, and handling/steering feedback will improve, but overall comfort will be good still. they are good for reducing tyre wear too.

polys tend to ruin the ride a bit

not a wise move at all

powerflex or superflex are far better

Thanks for the opinions.

The cupra bushes are solid as opposed to poly bushes correct? Are the powerflex solid too?

I'm not looking for crazy improvements - but if it improves the handling and lasts longer I can't see the problem with cupras!

not a wise move at all

powerflex or superflex are far better

based on?

fitted them on a fabia before, destroyed the ride. non voided cupra ones for the win.

Thanks for the opinions.

The cupra bushes are solid as opposed to poly bushes correct? Are the powerflex solid too?

I'm not looking for crazy improvements - but if it improves the handling and lasts longer I can't see the problem with cupras!

cupra bushes are rubber but without the voids standard ones have, polys are same but alot harder

cupra bushes are rubber but without the voids standard ones have, polys are same but alot harder

You're wrong. The cupra bush is a solid one part bush, it restricts movement in all directions including rotation, the Powerflex bush is a solid two part bush, it restricts movement in all directions but allows rotation. The only desirable movement for a console bush is rotation, by design the Powerflex is a better product.

Also considering how easy and obvious it is to check along with how common the failure is then I'm surprised the op didn't notice. The knocking and sloppy handling normally is usually a big clue.

Edited 13 May, 201313 yr by Avalon

I bought it last June with a clean bill of health - my first Skoda - I have a sneaky suspicion the bushes have always been knackered and I never noticed a change as that's how it always has been! I had occasionally noticed a knocking, but it only seemed to be on cold mornings - so put it down to just that and suspension with 92k on it... To go with the numerous slight dash rattles! That and the fact that my mechanical skills are still in their infancy! I would infact attempt it myself but it simply came down to I can't take the time off to sort it and can't have a car with no MOT, either!

Audi A1 bush it is then.... A solid bush but metal casing.

I wouldn't worry about it too much Oli and get 50k out of it at least then review if there has been any wear, I got at least 90k and to be honest the standard ones were minging then!

So I'm expecting 300K from the Cupras

Then again I've been "rout tuit"ing on my suspension too which is feeling knackered...thank god its summer its a job for a very much up coming weekend !

not a wise move at all

powerflex or superflex are far better

Rubbish, they're half the price and will last just as long.

I'd suggest doing the front bushes with powerflex/superflex while the arms are out however.

Edited 15 May, 201313 yr by Gobsheene

I've had the OE X-type bushes fitted to replace the voided ones, even then the front end felt a hell of a lot stiffer and more keen in the corners. I've heard no horror stories of vibrations with solid bushes on the 4cyl PD's, I went for the X's anyway. £120 fitted at my local indy. I took it for a wheel alignment afterwards.

I didn't even need them replaced. The voided bushes allowed so much lateral movement they wore out the inner edge of a 5 month old pair of tyres

You're wrong. The cupra bush is a solid one part bush, it restricts movement in all directions including rotation, the Powerflex bush is a solid two part bush, it restricts movement in all directions but allows rotation. The only desirable movement for a console bush is rotation, by design the Powerflex is a better product.

Also considering how easy and obvious it is to check along with how common the failure is then I'm surprised the op didn't notice. The knocking and sloppy handling normally is usually a big clue.

Have you fitted them and compared?????????? clearly not.

POLYS WILL MAKE THE RIDE TOO HARD, CUPRA ONES WITH TOUGHERN IT UP BUT REMAIN COMFORTBLE

why do you say i am wrong?????? I said the bush was without voids, therefore solid but RUBBER

Comment when you actually know/understand what is being said

Has anyone tried the Meyle HD ones? They also have an X type profile

Link :http://www.meyle.com/_download/technical_data/EN/LL_17-2008_en.pdf

You won't ever change them if you switch to powerflex. My car has very stiff coilovers so I would not be able to answer you about the ride.

I had cupra ones fitted to my PD100 two years ago, they improved the handling but there is some vibration at low revs which can be annoying at times.

As Chris C said

Had the solid cupra fitted to my PD100. Big improvement in handling from damaged originals but a bit of a rumble below 1800RPM. Not sure I'd fit them again but who knows..

This is why I fitted the X types. I wish I'd known about the Meyle HD ones or I would've had them!

Have you fitted them and compared?????????? clearly not.

POLYS WILL MAKE THE RIDE TOO HARD, CUPRA ONES WITH TOUGHERN IT UP BUT REMAIN COMFORTBLE

why do you say i am wrong?????? I said the bush was without voids, therefore solid but RUBBER

Comment when you actually know/understand what is being said

Have I fitted Powerflex? Yes. Have I compared them to X and solid bushes on different platforms? Yes. Have I replaced solid bushes with Powerflex? Yes. Does it alter the fact your statement about them being the same was wrong? No.

That's why I said you were wrong, perhaps if you took the time to read my reply rather than playing with caps lock key you might learn something. As far as the last comment about understanding what's said that's pretty ironic considering your reply shows a total lack of understanding

I am following this discussion with baited breath.

However, on one of my cars I have fitted the X type (make unknown) bushes with very positive steering, when I came to do the other car I thought I had bought the same X type bushes because they appeared to look the same, but obviously not because the steering is not as positive.

I once tried the Poly Bushes but had to remove them, the vibration was unbearable.

DB.

I know people say the cupra bushes are better and last longer but is the vibrations really noticeable? I don't really like the sound of poly bushes to be honest, really don't want to be feeling everything from the road and to be bounced about.

Have I fitted Powerflex? Yes. Have I compared them to X and solid bushes on different platforms? Yes. Have I replaced solid bushes with Powerflex? Yes. Does it alter the fact your statement about them being the same was wrong? No.

That's why I said you were wrong, perhaps if you took the time to read my reply rather than playing with caps lock key you might learn something. As far as the last comment about understanding what's said that's pretty ironic considering your reply shows a total lack of understanding

Again the original point I was making was that the cupra bushes were without the voids! In this respect the powerflex etc bushes are the same! They also are without voids.

If i was arguing that they were indeed the same this whole cupra or poly argument would be moot.

Another classic case of someone searching for an argument, reading what you want to read in the first instance so as to instigate provocation. Its this type of belittling patronisation that spoils a forum.

But further to my opinion, as you can see at least one other person had to remove poly bushes due to the vibration problem, due to theyre being too hard. If the cupra bushes were worse, then they would have customer returns on the car all the time.

Whatever you choose to reply next will be taken with a pinch of salt as clearly I have fitted both on this model of car and felt both on this model of car. My own personal 1st hand experience tells me beyond contest, that cupra bushes will be a better choice - The answer to the original quandry

To throw in my 2p, the Cupra bushes in my fabia gives a little shake through the steering wheel at idle, but its still not too bad

Edited 16 May, 201313 yr by Gobsheene

Again the original point I was making was that the cupra bushes were without the voids! In this respect the powerflex etc bushes are the same! They also are without voids.

If i was arguing that they were indeed the same this whole cupra or poly argument would be moot.

Another classic case of someone searching for an argument, reading what you want to read in the first instance so as to instigate provocation. Its this type of belittling patronisation that spoils a forum.

But further to my opinion, as you can see at least one other person had to remove poly bushes due to the vibration problem, due to theyre being too hard. If the cupra bushes were worse, then they would have customer returns on the car all the time.

Whatever you choose to reply next will be taken with a pinch of salt as clearly I have fitted both on this model of car and felt both on this model of car. My own personal 1st hand experience tells me beyond contest, that cupra bushes will be a better choice - The answer to the original quandry

No matter what way you spin it your origional blanket statement was wrong. A two part solid bush with rotational movement is not the same as a 1 part solid bush with little/no rotational movement. I took the time to politely and simply explain that. As the differences are obvious I can only assume the bit that got you hitting caps lock and so many question marks was the fact I pointed out you were wrong. Well you were wrong. If 'You're wrong' is the single most inflammatory thing to say to someone who is wrong and you think that constitutes belittling you, patronizing you and provocation then you really are a very sensitive soul... would you like a hug?

What resulted after that was, and is completely of your own making. For some reason you seem to have taken my reply as some sort of personal slight, then taken it out on your keyboard. More impressively (for clarification that's impressive for all the wrong reasons) you somehow reached the conclusion that its that kind of post that spoils the forums. Kind of impressive for one post pointing out the physical differences of two bushes in design terms don't you think? Perhaps re-read your reply and compare it to your other posts in this thread, the construction, grammar and punctuation say it all.

Now that brings us to my reply, again I answered your questions, the only mildly antagonistic comment was (ironically) suggesting you follow your own advice. So yes I'm sorry for telling you to do what ... you suggested, oh wait a minute, you suggested it. I also totally agree with the third paragraph of your last post, it is people who make antagonistic posts that can be detrimental to a forum, did you read your first reply before writing it or have I just suggested you follow your own advice again? Er ... hug?

Though I think its pretty obvious, I wasn't picking a fight or looking for an argument, yes I do tend to enjoy a good debate, for me it's usually with someone who can hold his or her own in a conversation and doesn't get so easily bent out of shape. From you'r posts you'd be forgiven for thinking I'd peed in your cornflakes and turned the milk chocolaty in the worst kind of way, feel free to add that pinch of salt now if you like but we'll not be hugging for a while after you've eaten

For the op for every one user who reports significantly increased vibration, many more don't have an issue, various theories exist, the bush transferring more vibration, other bushes/mounts/ being on the way out, 3cyl petrol engines never being in balance etc. Personally I would love to investigate one but in years of fitting Powerflex to a number of cars I've never had any significant issue. Perhaps I'm just lucky or perhaps the DSG diesels (golf/octavia/leon) I tend to have most experience with don't suffer the same issues due to the minor variation in layout. Either way the lifetime warranty and ease of fitting are a big plus point, even with access to the correct bush tool I still choose Powerflex