Why have you got a 1.8tsi then?

Maybe I am a thick but my 195/55/15 Continental Premium Contact2 were premium contact up to 25.000 Km, since then their decadence was more than obvious. Keep in mind that I am an absolutely normal driver, without any characteristic of boy racer, and now at 41.600 Km they act like soap. It is very difficult to start from standstill especialy when inclined without spinning, abs is activated very easily, when raining I am not sure of driving above 80 Km/h and the tyre's surface is full of scuffs.

I am looking for a new set of tyres, and I am in a great dillema of buying an all season set or not. It is because of our climate in Greece. You see temperatures in my City varies from -15 during winter to +40 during summer. Will a four season set survive at summer time?

To be more on topic, since 2012 there is a European Union's directive that forces all tyre makers to clarify fuel category, wet grip capability and external sound in dB. You will not believe your eyes when you will find out the category standing of some tyres. Below is the EU Label.

Why have you got a 1.8tsi then?

Whats that got to do with it, im confused?

I have seen cars on motorways in normal conditions building up queues of HGVs because they are comfortable at (or incapable of exceeding) 45.

IMO it would be useful if those who cannot imagine going near their car's capability should be restricted to vehicles whose limits are closer to their user.

Morris Minors are available made as new and there are many Triumph Heralds in good order. Live a little, Get a 2CV.

At a slight tangent, my father in law gave up driving a few years back "because I realised I was beginning to drive as slowly as the old gits I used to complain about when I was younger".

If you are starting to 'aquaplane' in wet conditions (regardless of tyres or car) I think its time to hand in your licence.

Why?

The situation above could happen to anybody driving in the same conditions, ie in the dark, a road damp from previous rain and a puddle on one side of the road.

The darkness masks the presence of the puddle.

The wet road masks the puddle.

Speed does have a bearing on the conditions contributing to aqua planing but it does not need to be high speed. 30mph could be enough.

I fully appreciate the fear that you must of encountered with your 'scary' puddle....and to be be fair,it must have been a very large 'scary' puddle to accommodate all 4 tyres at the same....but I am thinking,.... was it not it was in fact a 'river' a 'ford' or someone's 'garden pond' that you unfortunately found yourself helplessly swimming in. Nevertheless, any 'Internet God' (well everyone for that matter) can cope with such extreme conditions (like 99% of the driving population do everyday)...by slowing down a little bit.

I can smell troll ****.

I've read your post, and one of us thinks aquaplaning is something different. I think it is when one or more wheels loses grip because the depth of water exceeds the tyre's ability to displace it. What do you think Aquaplaning means?

Quite right JCP.

Obviously you can get all four wheels aqua planing but that will more likely happen on a NSL dual carriageway or motorway, where the speeds are generally higher.

The higher the speed, the less depth of water required to cause the problem.

Whats that got to do with it, im confused?

Absolutely nothing.

Has the troll farted?

Why?

The situation above could happen to anybody driving in the same conditions, ie in the dark, a road damp from previous rain and a puddle on one side of the road.

The darkness masks the presence of the puddle.

The wet road masks the puddle.

Speed does have a bearing on the conditions contributing to aqua planing but it does not need to be high speed. 30mph could be enough.

I can smell troll ****.

Quite right JCP.

Obviously you can get all four wheels aqua planing but that will more likely happen on a NSL dual carriageway or motorway, where the speeds are generally higher.

The higher the speed, the less depth of water required to cause the problem.

Absolutely nothing.

Has the troll farted?

Nonsense !!!....if you cant control a vehicle with one tyre losing traction due to standing water (not forgetting the 1.8 tsi will have three other wheels providing traction) you really are lacking in the driving department.Not everyone is lucky enough to be able to afford the latest high tech cars/tyres (nevermind winter tyres)....they make do with what they have got...and in most cases people are safe. It just stupid people with their 'fancy' cars and their 'fancy tyres' pushing it to the limits and in my opinion making it more dangerous for everybody else. Maybe the 'confortable' speed (not fast enough for some) that some people are driving at (as highlighted in previous posts)is the speed they can only do to be safe with their given tyres and their given car. Just because you come up behind them with your 'fancy' 4x4 Yeti with your 'fancy' super-dooper' tyres that you have the right to complain that they are not going fast enough for you. Everyone pays their taxes....and most people want to live. You have an indicator, use it and pass safely. Yes, a person who is oblivious to poor road conditions (in particular those not realising a situation where you may start aquaplaning) should in my opinion not have a licence....Its basic stuff.A troll on this forum is someone who does not agree with the mainstream.

Welcome back! The car was an Alfa Romeo 164 V6 Lusso (your dad may be able to tell you about them). Thank you for the advice and your opinion on my fitness to hold a licence.

A troll is someone who posts for the sake of being argumentative and is usually not welcomed by most people on a forum. If you find that happens to you there are two possibilities, first you may be entirely right and nearly everybody else is ganging up on you, second you may be a troll.

Bye!

Nonsense !!!....if you cant control a vehicle with one tyre losing traction due to standing water (not forgetting the 1.8 tsi will have three other wheels providing traction) you really are lacking in the driving department.Not everyone is lucky enough to be able to afford the latest high tech cars/tyres (nevermind winter tyres)....they make do with what they have got...and in most cases people are safe. It just stupid people with their 'fancy' cars and their 'fancy tyres' pushing it to the limits and in my opinion making it more dangerous for everybody else. Maybe the 'confortable' speed (not fast enough for some) that some people are driving at (as highlighted in previous posts)is the speed they can only do to be safe with their given tyres and their given car. Just because you come up behind them with your 'fancy' 4x4 Yeti with your 'fancy' super-dooper' tyres that you have the right to complain that they are not going fast enough for you. Everyone pays their taxes....and most people want to live. You have an indicator, use it and pass safely. Yes, a person who is oblivious to poor road conditions (in particular those not realising a situation where you may start aquaplaning) should in my opinion not have a licence....Its basic stuff.A troll on this forum is someone who does not agree with the mainstream.

I suggest you re read JCP's post #50

He was providing a definition of aqua planing.

He was NOT saying that he had lost control of his 1.8tsi. When only losing traction on one of his "fancy super dooper tyres" on his "fancy 4x4"

Oh, enough of this. I have better things to do.

There's a very useful button in our profiles.....

I always recommend Michelins. Always got at least 30k from the fronts without rotating, around 45k from the rears before they're around 3mm

Welcome back! The car was an Alfa Romeo 164 V6 Lusso (your dad may be able to tell you about them). Thank you for the advice and your opinion on my fitness to hold a licence.

A troll is someone who posts for the sake of being argumentative and is usually not welcomed by most people on a forum. If you find that happens to you there are two possibilities, first you may be entirely right and nearly everybody else is ganging up on you, second you may be a troll.

Bye!

How about you try coming up with an argument rather than banging on about Morris Minors and calling other people trolls?

Welcome back! The car was an Alfa Romeo 164 V6 Lusso (your dad may be able to tell you about them).

Bye!

I would dearly love to have the chance to ask him that.

You really are a sad case. Read your own threads and tell me your not being pompous or argumentative.

Please complain to the mods and get my account deleted...so you can carry on with your very sad (my tyres are better than yours)Yeti lives in peace.

Nonsense !!!....if you cant control a vehicle with one tyre losing traction due to standing water (not forgetting the 1.8 tsi will have three other wheels providing traction) you really are lacking in the driving department.Not everyone is lucky enough to be able to afford the latest high tech cars/tyres (nevermind winter tyres)....they make do with what they have got...and in most cases people are safe. It just stupid people with their 'fancy' cars and their 'fancy tyres' pushing it to the limits and in my opinion making it more dangerous for everybody else. Maybe the 'confortable' speed (not fast enough for some) that some people are driving at (as highlighted in previous posts)is the speed they can only do to be safe with their given tyres and their given car. Just because you come up behind them with your 'fancy' 4x4 Yeti with your 'fancy' super-dooper' tyres that you have the right to complain that they are not going fast enough for you. Everyone pays their taxes....and most people want to live. You have an indicator, use it and pass safely. Yes, a person who is oblivious to poor road conditions (in particular those not realising a situation where you may start aquaplaning) should in my opinion not have a licence....Its basic stuff.A troll on this forum is someone who does not agree with the mainstream.

I would agree with your post if there wasn't your first sentence. A flat tyre can bring total loss of traction and total loss of control, evenif there are still three more wheels functioning. Even in a dry tarmac. Even with all super - dooper electronics on. Even at a relatively low speed.

The aquaplaning definition given afew messages above by someone else is absolutelly correct.

Hope this helps

Keep it civil folks.

C'mon chaps - you are all on the same "side" in this 'debate' really, but because of the vagaries of the English language there's a high degree of mis-interpretation going on which isnt going to get any of us very far at all on here!!!

Having read posts from each and every one of you, I am convinced that you are all genuine Yeti aficionados and intelligent owners and drivers who simply see things from slightly different perspectives - and somewhat sadly that has degenerated into daft and personal comments that really have no place in this otherwise stimulating Yeti forum.

How's about just shaking hands and retreating behind the steering wheel for a quick blat round the lanes ( inside the speed limit of course).

chill, chaps, chill. yeah?

How's about just shaking hands and retreating behind the steering wheel for a quick blat round the lanes ( inside the speed limit of course).

chill, chaps, chill. yeah?

Cool bro! Just don't drive after you've been smoking that stuff innit

For, primarily wet grip, Id recommend Uniroyal Rainsport 2's - from experience, nothing beats them for wet grip. The other tyre im currently using to great all round effect inc wet weather/longetivity/feedback are Michelin Pilot Sports 3's - brilliant all round tyre imo.

Michelins will be good but expensive.

I've used Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas for the last 4 sets of dry tyres (on my Octavia vRS and now Yeti) very happy with them in the wet; grip well and nicely balanced and with controlled breakaway.

I once, a few years back, had some Uniroyal Rainsport and, yes, they were fantastic in the wet but soft in the dry (lacked bite and poise) but wore out quicker than any other tyres I've had before or since.

Just my two pence worth.

Guy

Michelins will be good but expensive.

I've used Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas for the last 4 sets of dry tyres (on my Octavia vRS and now Yeti) very happy with them in the wet; grip well and nicely balanced and with controlled breakaway.

I once, a fe years back, had some Uniroyal Rainsport and, yes, they were fantastic in the wet but soft in the dry (lacked bite and poise) but wore out quicker than any other tyres I've had before or since.

Just my two pence worth.

Guy

You should try modern tyres on any motorcycle over 600cc (if you haven't already, ya petrol head )

I've regularly worn out a front and rear pair in 6k!

Now that's what I call wearing out quickly.

You should try modern tyres on any motorcycle over 600cc (if you haven't already, ya petrol head )

I've regularly worn out a front and rear pair in 6k!

Now that's what I call wearing out quickly.

I'm a bit out of practice on motorcycles, the last one I owned was a Suzuki GS650 Katana (shaft drive) which I owned for a couple of years in the mid 1980s. I used it more for M'way work to/from Germany than scratching.

Guy

You should try modern tyres on any motorcycle over 600cc (if you haven't already, ya petrol head )

I've regularly worn out a front and rear pair in 6k!

Now that's what I call wearing out quickly.

I used to have a Suzuki GSXR1000 K6 (2006 model) I would be lucky to get 2.5K from a rear tyre and 5K from a front. That was one mental bike but highly addictive.

Michelins will be good but expensive.

I've used Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas for the last 4 sets of dry tyres (on my Octavia vRS and now Yeti) very happy with them in the wet; grip well and nicely balanced and with controlled breakaway.

I once, a few years back, had some Uniroyal Rainsport and, yes, they were fantastic in the wet but soft in the dry (lacked bite and poise) but wore out quicker than any other tyres I've had before or since.

Just my two pence worth.

Guy

Michelins are more expensive than average but Ive always got more miles out of them so I think it balances up tbh. Agreed with all your points though. Friends have run Sessantas and said VERY good things about them.

Michelins are more expensive than average but Ive always got more miles out of them so I think it balances up tbh. Agreed with all your points though. Friends have run Sessantas and said VERY good things about them.

You're quite correct.

I did a direct comparison between Pilot Exaltos and Ultrac Sessantas on my Octy vRS and on a £ per mile basis the cost was the same.

Guy

You're quite correct.

I did a direct comparison between Pilot Exaltos and Ultrac Sessantas on my Octy vRS and on a £ per mile basis the cost was the same.

Guy

Its the high upfront cost that puts most off, but as you say you recoup this on longevity.

I would agree with your post if there wasn't your first sentence. A flat tyre can bring total loss of traction and total loss of control, evenif there are still three more wheels functioning. Even in a dry tarmac. Even with all super - dooper electronics on. Even at a relatively low speed.

The aquaplaning definition given afew messages above by someone else is absolutelly correct.

That is a totally different situation to aquaplaning.