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Facelift slightly better "For motoring excitement, we suggest you turn to the 3.6L V6 hatch which has protected its title as SKODA’s fastest production car by shaving a tenth of a second off its 0-62mph time – now 6.4s. It is also 9% cleaner than before (215g/km CO2) with mpg up by 2.4mpg to 30.4mpg. The downside is, it costs at least £30,510 OTR (Elegance trim)"

So £280 yr on current rates

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  • Just had a look on Skoda Used Car Locator and there appears to be none :( Will have a check on autotrader

  • There are 3 on Autotrader but all hatchbacks ranging from 14k to 24k Seems they are lkke rocking horse poo in estate trim. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used/cars/skoda/superb/postcode/le673a

  • This one on Skoda used car locator....... http://www.skoda.net.r66.co.uk/carview.aspx?id=602856651

How much is the tax?When I looked a few months ago I think it was Parkers that said it was around £700 IIRC.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Not £700, thank god!It's only :giggle: £475 after year 1 (1st year is £840 but OP wants secondhand so can ignore that one).You pay for your pleasure :devil:

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Ah it must of been referring to the first years tax, I know when I saw it I though "how 'kin much!"

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Gents. Having a serious look at new 3.6 L&K with the new Ivory trim. Drive the deal have great deals to null the pain. Looking at fun factor over running cost but still interested in what mpg you guys are getting. Also come rain/winter that 4wd make real diff or just nice comforting factor. Cheers

Just coming up to 30K Miles in my 3.6 over 18 month period and the average consumption is 29.611.

Front tyres replaced at 22K, rears still good for a few more miles.

From these figures you can guess I am on long service intervals (18,000 ish) - only had one.

Also staggeringly, my insurance is under £260 this year.

A great car, but now they have the 170CR 4x4 DSG, I will not have another

Facelift slightly better "For motoring excitement, we suggest you turn to the 3.6L V6 hatch which has protected its title as SKODA’s fastest production car by shaving a tenth of a second off its 0-62mph time – now 6.4s. It is also 9% cleaner than before (215g/km CO2) with mpg up by 2.4mpg to 30.4mpg. The downside is, it costs at least £30,510 OTR (Elegance trim)"

So £280 yr on current rates

Interesting read this.

Since I have been reading up on the Audi 3.2 Quattro Auto.

Similar figures then: 30mpg, £280 tax, but waiting to see how. Insurance will fare - eeek!

How much is the tax?

When I looked a few months ago I think it was Parkers that said it was around £700 IIRC.

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About right, mate.

Parker maybe referring to the rip off of the 1st year tax (roughly doubles the normal annual road tax from year 2)!!!

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Thank you all for the replies and info,i have to delay getting the v6 for approx. 4 weeks,family health issues come first.

Managed 400 miles on a tank of fuel for the first time this week, helped by a run down to the south coast.

Maxidot showed a 36.2 mpg round trip (about 8% optimistic) for 192 miles.

Just about 54 litres to fill up.

but that drops to mid 20's around town, drops again if sat in London traffic (gridlock style) to low 20's. but thats rare!

I think you'll find it's nowhere near mid 20's urban, I'd say you'd be lucky to see 15 if the roads aren't too busy, had a 2.5 Omega some years ago, 17 mpg on a good day, 31 on a run, nowhere near mid 20's in town and that's 1100cc less, I know power to weight ratio's help but I can't see a 3.6 engine doing figures like that,

If you were looking at the trip read out this would explain it, you probably hit traffic and the 32 dropped to 25 but in reality the trip readout is wrong as it's still factoring in the out of city miles as well.

I think you'll find it's nowhere near mid 20's urban, I'd say you'd be lucky to see 15 if the roads aren't too busy, had a 2.5 Omega some years ago, 17 mpg on a good day, 31 on a run, nowhere near mid 20's in town and that's 1100cc less, I know power to weight ratio's help but I can't see a 3.6 engine doing figures like that,

If you were looking at the trip read out this would explain it, you probably hit traffic and the 32 dropped to 25 but in reality the trip readout is wrong as it's still factoring in the out of city miles as well.

Not really sure of the relevance of your experience with your Omega, Supurbia. Petrol engine technology has advanced by some huge steps in recent years, with VAG engines turning in remarkable real life consumption figures. Take the 1.8 TSi - most folks with this in a Superb are very happy with their consumption, whilst most folks with a 1.8 Insignia are ruing the day they bought it.

I'd go with sadgit's comment. He's actually driving a 3.6 Superb, I think he's in the best position to judge.

Not really sure of the relevance of your experience with your Omega, Supurbia. Petrol engine technology has advanced by some huge steps in recent years, with VAG engines turning in remarkable real life consumption figures. Take the 1.8 TSi - most folks with this in a Superb are very happy with their consumption, whilst most folks with a 1.8 Insignia are ruing the day they bought it.

I'd go with sadgit's comment. He's actually driving a 3.6 Superb, I think he's in the best position to judge.

Not really, I explained why he thinks it's so economical for such a big lump, trouble is others will read it believe it and then face a doubled up fuel bill, VX 1.8 is the worst petrol engine on the planet.

Supurbia is feeling down at the moment and would like to spread doom and gloom on Skoda as much as possible

:)

My 17,000 mile V6 is driven just in town, with one longer run every month. It averages 27.7mpg and does 32 on a run.

If we are stating totally irrelevant figures, my 2.6l Scimitar will do 20mpg however its driven :)

Supurbia is feeling down at the moment and would like to spread doom and gloom on Skoda as much as possible

:)

Not really mate I'm actually very happy that I've not given anymore of my hard earned cash to a shylock motor group, (understand this it's the company not the cars I don't like) and the company is morally bankrupt as proven by the oil pump issue which they will not hold their hands up to, but for VOSA we'd all still have potentially dangerous injectors in our cars, and that doesn't only effect you, it effects the poor sod you hit while panicking how to get from lane 3 to the hard shoulder while bleeding speed at the same time.

And as for the fuel

http://www.skoda.co....erb/performance

21mpg urban cycle, official figures so anyone wanting to delude themselves be my guest but don't take others with you, happened to me one time listening to a complete numerical idiot whose car could do 10MPG more than reality, and ftr that thing on the dashboard that tells you how many miles per, it's not acurate as it works averages not actuals, :kiss:

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^^^^^^^

I rest my case ;) ;) ;) ;)

Not really, I explained why he thinks it's so economical for such a big lump, trouble is others will read it believe it and then face a doubled up fuel bill, VX 1.8 is the worst petrol engine on the planet.

Hi Supurbia

Thanks for suggesting I am either stupid or lying :rofl:

When I first got the V6 I monitored the fuel consumption very carefully, as I have done in all my cars. After it was run in I took family on holiday, did around 1800 miles and fuel consumption, based on brimming the tank half a dozen or so times consumption=31.8MPG (based on 4.56L=1 Gallon) not bad for a fully loaded car, with roof box, driven with gusto :devil:

I checked MFD (no 2 that gives long term average) and it said 31.9!!!!!!! very close. I then had 2 weekends driving daughter to view Uni's.no roof box and steady driving, measured consumption=34.1 MFD said 34.2 now to me thats close enough.

MFD consumption on 1 is reset after a long stop (overnight) and its that I have used on day trips as it gives average for that day, again always within 0.1-0.2 of measured amount.

My worst MPG was 22mpg, driving from home in N London to visit son in S London 12mile journey took near 2hours 30mins, normally on Sunday morning this trip takes 45 mins and I get 27MPG.

I am not suggestion the V6 is good on fuel consumption it's not, but compared to old estate barges, like an Volvo 760 I ran in the 90's that did 17mpg it's not that bad. In fact it uses the same amount of fuel as my last car, a diesel Audi All-Road.

Now Supurbia, your bound to say,"you are wrong, your MFD is wrong, dobby is wrong, ddyer79 is wrong.

How lucky we are, that you are (always) right :love:

I didn't call you a liar or an idiot, when I said about idiots I meant in general not you in particular although what you just wrote about a 12 mile trip through a congested London getting 22mpg in a 3.6L petrol car does make you start to sound like either an idiot or a liar,

I wouldn't argue with you long run figures they look ok but on the urban cycle there is no way this car is doing 27mpg, the 1.8TSi is only officially 29mpg so where you think 2X the capacity is only going to drop 2mpg is simply silly,

Now I'm guessing I ain't gonna get any joy here so lets leave it that I know what the car is able to return and you and Steve can dream fuellys together :think:

MFD's are not accurate, this is another reason why people with re-maps think their car just became super economic, anyway as long as you are enjoying your car that's all that matters I guess :dance:

1) Don't tell us what our cars are like when you don't own one yourself. An Omega is not a Superb.

2) Don't tell us we're just going off the MFD stats and not real life. If anyone is being blinded by stats, its you. Driving in town is different to "urban cycle."

3) Please feel free to add to the discussion, just don't call other members liars or stupid :)

And apologies for the topic going off topic

and you and Steve can dream fuellys together :think:

I wasn't providing support either way, and you will see from my posts that I'm no Skoda fanboy. Merely pointing out that you are seemingly generating a lot of negativity for no reason here. Now, you obviously have your reasons for this and I'm not discussing that at all just it does seem to be influencing your judgement.

Whatever your issues with the Skoda dealer and Skoda are, I think it would be good to take a a deep breath and reflect - is this all really worth getting hot and bothered by? You obviously have an opinion, the above V6 owners have another, so what. There's no point overreacting to it.

Cheers

Steve

Right lets have it right,

Before you lot decided to get in on the Skoda fantastic thing I was owning one anyway some 7 years ago, after that I had a Passat DSG 2.0 TDi PD 140 non DPF Sport, so if anyone doesn't know their way around these cars it ain't me,

When I first came on here there was a fella called Rotodiesel who was very knowledgable about the cars, people used to shoot him down because he highlighted engineering flaws that any self respecting engineer would've known not to design,

If people can't accept that someone might know a bit more than them then that's their bad, basically I'm not here because I want to make trouble, I'm here because I don't want someone buying a car that will never be able to do what someone else said it would, I know it's Masters of the Universe time now if you own a Skoda (different to when I had mine, silly ***** used to get in and say oh no I'm in a Skoda) yeah well fwcuwits you were actually in a friggin stretched Passat B5 but hey ho you ingnorant toss I used to think to myself, that car was a fine car btw, what has come along since isn't built anywhere near as well as it was,

So I'll leave you to ponder that you may have an engine that will mash itself up, a turbo that might whistle like a train and smash itself up etc etc and good ole VAG will not help you if they can avoid doing so,

As for the Superb fuel, I looked at a 2.0CR 140 DSG last week and the trip said ave speed 14mph fuel consumption 33mpg, hardly seems worth having a diesel if you can own a V6 grunter for not much more running cost does it,

This is a gem this one Driving in town is different to "urban cycle." what is it then?

Stop start 10 - 30mph urban, i.e in a built up place with congestion, err that's just like a town is innit?

Steve, point taken, I accept what you posted.

Steve, you are correct in a way that I am bitter, I bought a car that I considered to be worth paying over the odds for, I've just had to shift it on when I could've done with not having to but I could smell the wallet crowbar coming round the corner,

To add to it before my patience got exhausted I was going to go for a Superb again, but I got offered 3k for my car when my mates trade valuation says the car absolutely trashed would make £4.2k, I should really have hung out for the £4.7k that the trade guide says but I got offered £4.5k anyway and the screen on the new one reduced by a grand anyway, now the salesman said to me....we do very well with these, infact I could tell he was keen to get it off me if the figures met up, so if he can give me the true book price or near as damnit anyway why did the Skoda dealer think he was going to steal it off me for 3k, the answer is because this dealer isn't reputable, it showed on the day, into VX and I have to wait in a showroom full of people, nobody in the Skoda dealer and he's on me before I can get out of my car, and lets not forget the accusation of clocking either, a real inspiration to want to deal with them again, and btw when I travelled 250 miles to get the Passat I didn't expect to find one at a VW main agent with a cracked grille, bullet holed windscreen and overspray on the foglight, not to mention the bodged up rear arch repair, 3 years ago after Superb #1 I was loving the idea of VAG cars for a long time but door card breakage simply by leaning on it with an arm, seat foam disintegrating and deforming the seat, oil consumption of 1L 2K etc etc and it's not confidence building is it, I was actually lucky, I got one of the better ones and didn't get the usual £1000 a go repairs like steering lock failure, tandem pump, EPB Caliper motor, Oil pump drive rounding off, when I was considering keeping it I would've needed to get the timing belt done, the thought of paying VW £550 for a belt and a pump only to have the stud snap a few weeks later and be told it's not covered really put me off,

Anyway, you lot enjoy your cars and I hope you don't suffer the issues others have, but take a tip from me VAG quality isn't what it was, and should you be unfortunate you'll understand what I've told you better, and if you are unfortunate my tip is get it running and get shot of it before you end up holding the baby.

Wow! It would be great if supurbia used some decent punctuation in his rant, it was like reading a James Joyce paragraph:-) I have had a high of 690 Km from a tank and a low of 430 Km. The low is achieved around where I live which is hilly and usually involves short trips (less than 10 Km). The high was a country drive on good roads at a high average speed. It is about what you can expect from a normally aspirated V6 and I don't think anyone who considers such a car would be deluded by the sometimes fanciful figures some people quote. I think the quality control on Superbs is superior to VWs and some Audis because the Superb comes from one facility whereas your VW or Audi can come from one of over half a dozen factories in various countries. It is a shame that some dealers are not up to the same levels and spoil the customer's experience.

Well I am not a Skoda "Fan Boy"

This is my first Skoda, I had an Audi before this and several Volvos before that, including a T5R that I loved.

None of these were issue free, the Audi suffered a diesel injector pump failure, out of warrantee, cost me over £2K!!!

Why did I choose a Skoda Superb and a V6 at that?

I wanted a large fast estate that I would enjoy driving.

As a family we needed a big estate car, needed to be auto (or DSG) and wife likes 4 wheel drive for safety, I like it because I don't enjoy the feel of the power going through front wheels.

I do not need a car to drive to and from work, my mileage is around 8K PA so fuel costs are not a major issue. I believed the Superb offered good value for money, I was offered a good trade in for my Audi and with both 20% VAT offer plus an added discount I feel I got a fair deal.

I had not purchased a new car for many years, let the first guy take the depreciation hit, but as I plan to keep the V6 over 6 years, thought, what the hell, lets enjoy speccing the car to my taste and having that new car feel/smell :giggle:

I did consider several other fast estates, Audi RS6, AMG Mercs either C or E class or a BMW M5.

Yes these are all MUCH faster then the V6 and new, MUCH more expensive (like twice or three times the price) but at 3 years old offer a lot of metal for the money,

BUT, they cost a fortune to run, will need more in repairs and may have been thrashed by first owner.

A guy at work got a beautiful BMW M5 estate, it is a class or two above the Superb both in quality of trim and power, but the gear change is horrible, fuel consumption dire, owner happy if he gets 19mpg on a run and in traffic double figures= good! and he is terrified of an engine or transmission fault.

I am sorry Supurbia that your not happy with your choice of car and the way you feel you have been treated by Skoda. So vote with your feet, sell it and buy something else, its that simple.

I am happy with my V6, its not perfect, but no car is, and yes it is thirsty, I have always said "don't buy a V6 if you want an economical car" people that care about running costs, get a Greenline!

I know the MFD on my car is accurate, and my fuel consumption figures are fine by me, you cant compare what you old Omega gave you years ago, to the Superb, technology moves on.

However no matter what I and others who OWN and DRIVE the V6 say, you know best. Why not just wind the clock back further on yours (LOL) part ex for a V6 (no turbo issues here :happy: ) and come back in 12 months and give an informed view.

Oh and to the OP, its a great car, but rare, good luck finding one and enjoy it when you do. But remember, its not cheap to run, car tax is insane. oh and it likes a drink :cocktail: But when you push the "pedal to the metal" it shifts (for a large barge!!!) :devil:

Edited by sadgit1

In response to the Op who asked about the real world fuel consumption figures for the V6, thanks to those who supplied their actual mileage based on fill ups and corrected MFD numbers. It is good to read accurate figures from people who actually own the car and monitor consumption accurately. And their numbers correspond with own accurate, checked consumption. Over here in Oz I get 27mpg in easy suburban driving, low to mid 20s in city traffic, depending on how hard I drive and 34 mpg in easy freeway driving. But f you drive it hard it will drink a bit, but I think the economy is quite good for its weight, awd and performance.

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