Hi,

 

Im searching for a good condition Clutch and Flywheel...I have a reply but Im unsure if the Model Spec is my car.....its the 3T in the model description Im unsure about.

 

 

My car is a 2009 Greenline 1.9TDI 1896cc   engine no. BLS A45944 - Variant AABLSX01 Version GFM5FM5A4044 .

 

This is the breakers search criteria:  SKODA SUPERB (3T) GREENLINE TDI MANUAL 5 DOOR HATCHBACK 1896CC DIESEL  (2009)

 

Again its the 3T that's throwing me.....Do you guys think the parts he has for me will fit my model?

 

fonaspin

Hi,

 

3T is the (VAG) Skoda model code for all Superbs from 2008 onwards. The previous (original) Superb is a 3U, if I remember correctly. I think all part numbers for your car are in the format '3T xxx xxxx' , or something like that.

 

So, the 3T means it will very likely fit your car. All 1.9 gearboxes for Greenline have a taller 4th and 5th gear ratios over the regular 1.9, but I would expect the clutch and flywheel assemblies to be interchangeable between all 3T 1.9s. 

 

How many miles has it done? Have you considered a single mass flywheel conversion? They seem to have some enthusiastic support on the Octavia forum, and the flywheel can't then fail again. Briskoda member Mike Holroyd seems very impressed with his Octavia SMF conversion, which I would expect to fit straight on to yours as well. Apparently, there is a Skoda part number for the conversion, and dealers have fitted some of these kits under warranty!

 

To many owners :-   DMF = PITA.

 

Happy to be corrected by anyone else who comes along!

 

HTH.

Edited 29 July, 201312 yr by CombatWombat

Hi HTH,

 

Well thank you.  Of course I will consider your advisory.  Should have stated in case its valid to fulcrum point....I drive a Taxi doing 800miles plus per week.  What is the difference ....   Is your MFconversion costly?  My car has 105K miles currently?   What is the basic theory on why I should consider a conversion?   

 

Can most mechanics do the job?   If suitable where do I buy such a conversion kit?  Im thinking it will be much cheaper than a Full Clutch and Flywheel assembly kit?

 

Would a SMF conversion save my clutch from also failing?

 

Thanks on the 3T issue,

 

fonaspin

Edited 30 July, 201312 yr by fonaspin

Hi,

 

This link should tell you a lot more about members conversions to a single mass flywheel.

 

The labour cost for an SMF is the same as that for changing a dual mass flywheel, but the parts are probably 1/2 - 2/3 the price, and the flywheel can not fail again, as, unlike a DMF, it has no moving parts within it. So in the future you only will need to replace the pressure plate, friction plate and release bearing, which are much cheaper to buy.

 

Your clutch will not last any longer after the conversion, but the DMF is  no longer there to wear out as well. When the DMF fails it can be catastrophic and break the gearbox casing (rare!).

 

Most mechanics can do the job, it is only as difficult as a DMF change. In the UK it is available from Skoda dealers and independent suppliers.

 

This option is only available on the 1.9 engine cars, and would be ideal for high mileage users or taxis, especially if you are keeping the car for many years.

 

I have no personal experience of the conversion (yet), but will consider it when/if my clutch does fail.

 

This link will answer all your other questions :-

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/227562-dual-mass-flywheel-converted-to-solid-mass-fly-wheelupdate-el/

 

In the link they are discussing a Valeo manufactured conversion, but it sounds as if there are other makes as well.

 

DMFs are fitted to most petrol cars over 1.4/1.6 L, and most diesels, but the diesels wear them out faster because of their greater torque reversals (i.e. they're not as smooth), but to many, DMFs are the work of the devil, and best avoided.

 

Currently, the best description of the noise of a  dual mass flywheel failure would be ' like a pebble in a washing machine '.

 

Hope this helps.

Edited 30 July, 201312 yr by CombatWombat

Two things NOT to do unless you are selling the car

 

1 - Use a second hand clutch kit

 

2 - Use a single mass flywheel

 

1 is because you never know the real condition of it and will probably get issues like juddering

 

2 Is because the dual mass is there for a reason and that is to balance things along the crank, if you use a single you risk snapping your crankshaft due to excess vibration

 

 

At the end of the day that's my 2p's worth and you will ultimately decide whether to follow that advice, but there it is in a nutshell, hth.

Hi All,

 

Why I ask myself does a SMF exist only for the 1.9TDI as mine is?  They say???,  SKODA dealerships are carrying out this conversion ( some say with limited guarantees ) ?

 

If there is a STRONG possibility that the crankshaft will fail , then I thank you for that info....in my situation, I will be selling the car after one year from now ( 150k miles on clock )  AND I certainly do NOT

want to leave any potential buyer of my car with possible failed crankshaft issues.

 

So ....hard as it is to state, the only safe option is a new clutch and flywheel kit with bearing ( 750.00 ) fitted.

 

All good advice welcome.

 

fonaspin

Edited 1 August, 201312 yr by fonaspin