If you are setting off in a car and don't know whether your lights are on or off you have already demonstrated you aren't fully in control-just saying.

I'm pretty sure it's more to do with changing conditions whilst already in motion.

For instance, when it starts raining, it's nice to know that the auto system has actually switched on the lights rather than leaving the DRLs on dazzling everyone coming the other way.

It's useful to have a little symbol positioned in your line of sight that lights up to inform you what the auto lights system has decided to do, so that you can opt to override it.

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I'm pretty sure it's more to do with changing conditions whilst already in motion.

For instance, when it starts raining, it's nice to know that the auto system has actually switched on the lights rather than leaving the DRLs on dazzling everyone coming the other way.

I don't understand that, surely the headlights would dazzle more than the DRLs, anyway the DRLs on mine stay on with the headlights!

I'm pretty sure it's more to do with changing conditions whilst already in motion.

For instance, when it starts raining, it's nice to know that the auto system has actually switched on the lights rather than leaving the DRLs on dazzling everyone coming the other way.

It's useful to have a little symbol positioned in your line of sight that lights up to inform you what the auto lights system has decided to do, so that you can opt to override it.

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I have never found the Yeti DRL's cause any dazzle, post facelift or either of the new fitments.

I don't understand that, surely the headlights would dazzle more than the DRLs, anyway the DRLs on mine stay on with the headlights!

No, the issue with DRLs is the fact they don't have a tightly controlled beam pattern meaning the light from them is just spreading out, and due to their requirement for being noticeable in daylight, they're very bright indeed.

This means they're much more likely to dazzle you when it's not perfectly clear day light (I.e, when it's raining), whereas the normal dipped lights have a cut off meaning they are not going to dazzle you unless you're in very specific circumstances.

And yes, the DRLs stay on with the headlights, but they will be dimmed as to prevent dazzle to others.

I have never found the Yeti DRL's cause any dazzle, post facelift or either of the new fitments.

Me neither, but then I've never seen a Yeti which has the wrong lights switched on for the conditions! Tells you something about the Yeti driver's demographic

Another consideration is the fact there are no rear lights with the DRLs so obviously, you'd like to have the assurance that you're visible to following traffic!

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Making mountains out of molehills?
The light switch shows if the headlights (and tail lights) are on and is hardly in an inaccessible location, it's not as if they will require a look taking less than a second more than once a day.

Making mountains out of molehills?

The light switch shows if the headlights (and tail lights) are on and is hardly in an inaccessible location, it's not as if they will require a look taking less than a second more than once a day.

You seem to have missed the fact we're discussing auto lights. Looking at the light switch like once a day won't tell you anything about what the lights are doing during every journey you make.

I don't have auto lights on any of our cars, but I can understand what the issue is here.

Not sure why others seem to be missing the point.

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You seem to have missed the fact we're discussing auto lights. Looking at the light switch like once a day won't tell you anything about what the lights are doing during every journey you make.

How often do people drive on average where the conditions call for headlights to be switched on due to dusk or weather conditions?

It's not something you would be checking on every few minutes and I'd say on average not more than once a day, how often do you check the nearside mirror where you'll be looking for a movement not just checking that a light is on on a switch?

I have checked the switch myself occasionally and yes it would make sense to have a tell tale like there is for high beam I don't think it's too hard to live without as there is that light on the switch not more than a few inches from your hand not down by the knee as has been said.

The answer to those that cannot check or rely on the auto lights working as they should is simple, just turn the switch to manual and turn them on as required.

It's like cruise control, there are several that don't trust using it, perhaps that's the start of another thread.

I think the main issue is that many of us have been driving many different cars over many years and most if not all have had a light to indicate when the headlights are on, dip as well as full.

I've even had cars where other lights are indicated e.g. fog.

I know that technology and specifications change and therefore what's displayed on the dash but there are certain things that have been standardised i.e. engine warning symbols, indicators etc. and the dipped beam should I would've thought be one of them particularly for when folks are driving a car they aren't used to. My wife for example doesn't drive the Yeti very often.

Following the logic that it's fine having the light on the switch, why isn't the full beam light on there as well!

The Yeti is the first car I've made much use of the Auto setting and often I've checked the switch (not only at dawn and dusk) because of changing light conditions and rain of which we've had a lot recently!

Yes, I also use the Manual setting when I want to override. Perhaps I will revert to using it all the time.

Edited 19 July, 20169 yr by VAGCF

The Vehicle Lighting Regulations only require there to be an indication that the front fog lights, rear fog lights, and reverse lights (if not automatically illuminated) are turned on. There is no legal requirement for side or dipped beams.

 

Personally I've given up with the auto-lights setting, and have taken control myself.................................shock horror!!

Following the logic that it's fine having the light on the switch, why isn't the full beam light on there as well!

Checking that the headlights have in fact turned on is usually only once when day thru to night time driving, if it's already dark you can see them out front.

Checking for full beam is something that may be looked at every few minutes when driving at night.

In driving the Yeti for 1½ years it has proved 100% faultless for headlight switching in night, rain and foggy conditions, for me anyway.

I know, it was meant tongue in cheek but for reason on my tablet I can't insert smiley faces etc.

And I knew it would illicit a response!

Bloomin roofers haven't turned up today, too hot! :( (I know the keyboard strokes for this one)

So I'm off outside to sand down some garden furniture!

What's that about mad dogs and English men!

Edited 19 July, 20169 yr by VAGCF

In my previous Elegance, I found the easiest way to see if the headlights were on or off in Auto mode was to look at the submarine spots by the rear view mirror (until I noticed this I was irritated by lack of an indicator light in the instrument panel). Of course now I have a Yeti with a sunroof, there are no submarine lights, so it's back to glancing down at the switch.

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Nice one, I wonder if my wife has any green nail varnish!

Well I've learned about the mirrors and the remote control which we didn't know about.  

 

John