The clue comes in this months Evo magazine. Page 57 carries a review of the new SEAT Leon 2.0 TFSI, in which the 2 litre turbo engine appears. Significantly, the car has 182 BHP and 199lb ft.

Granted, it's not the Cupra (or FR or whatever they're calling them), but given that SEAT are part of the "sporty" side of VAG, are we seeing the shape of things to come? The

Might help our hold some money then

No way could they have any credibility or expect anyone to buy the new one if that happened. :thumbdwn:

I hope I am not going to eat my words in Dec!

As for the Yeti/Roomster think the Fab needs replacing thats all.Don't think the middle of the range will see skoda producing anything odd.Especially if they are getting in to fleet markets.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to see the new Octavia vRS with the same 182 BHP engine' date=' [/quote']

That will deal with the 'MK2 is quicker than the MK1 b'llox then'

Steve

why would a 182bhp engine be a problem???

it'll only be a detuned version of the same engine like my 4x4, same engine as the vRS just mapped different to give lower power but have the same potential when tuned.

for the sake of 20bhp i don't think they are going to change much if anything on the engine other than the map.

you could always tune it! any ways it will still be a vRS and will still look good...im sure they will give it loads of kit we wil just have to wait and see

You shouldn't have to tune it. You may as well add abother

The vRS will be better than the non-vRS models in handling no doubt - but the Octy I drove was all over the place in corners. Hopefully they'll let me have an Octy II at some point as a courtesy car

If I had to choose between a stressed out petrol turbo or a less stressed, more powerful petrol turbo that would be a no-brainer.

I'd be surprised if there would be a less powerful than the Octy I vRS - petrol or diesel. The diesel one at about 180 bhp would be pretty fast, but you'd want a petrol one too to keep the existing Octy vRS base happy.

I've got a feeling a diesel vRS (Octy) would be a good strategic move on behalf of Skoda, as when people grow out of the Furby vRS from a 'need more space' point of view, a bigger version of the 'same' would make a lot of sense. But then I'm not in marketing

You shouldn't have to tune it. You may as well add abother

Wouldnt you just want a single FMIC rather than two SMICs? For the rest, sounds ace

Wouldnt you just want a single FMIC rather than two SMICs? For the rest, sounds ace

Well as one has already paid for it seems a shame not to use it.

why would a 182bhp engine be a problem???

it'll only be a detuned version of the same engine like my 4x4' date=' same engine as the vRS just mapped different to give lower power but have the same potential when tuned.

for the sake of 20bhp i don't think they are going to change much if anything on the engine other than the map.[/quote']

The turbo FSI engine isn't as tuneable as the 1.8t....apparently.

Injectors are in the region of

Not wanting to detract but the only things I have read about the 2.0 fsi have been rather negative. Suggestions of it not being fully proven etc.

I would have thought it would have been tested to within an inch of its life.It is of course running in numerous vag cars,Audi's,VW and skoda.I thought it was quite economical too. :confused:

From what has been said though,if the 2.0T goes in you are pretty much stuck with 200bhp.

If you come to the RS-day at Emmaboda airport in Sweden 17/9 you will se the new vRS. Last year at Bromma airport a Fabia vRS won the super stage against 30-40 Octavia vRS. It was raining that day.

If you want to be in the audience click publik.

Only people how owns a vRS in Sweden can race at RS-day.

You will also se a 4x4 Fabia rallycross with 500bhp.

http://www.rsdagen.se/

I won't the engine mounted longitudinally as well, don't want a lot do I.

what is your reason for this out of interest?

Easier to drop the 2.7 twin turbo from the last S4 in innit

Having said that, the Superb is longditudinal < wanders off to look for cheap second hand Superb >

what is your reason for this out of interest?

Probably so he can have access to all the Stateside mods stuff for Audis....damn...forget Des keep shis cars standard.

Longtitudinal mounting of the engie may be potentially bad for handling...if like Audis the engine is way out infront of the front axle.

But... the Leon 2.0T FSI is only the "regular" Sport-Up version, so not an FR - which is Seat's opposite to the vRS tag.

So might we expect a regular 185 euro-hp Octavia Elegance then, which is probably a detuned 200hp lump anyway?

I can't see the FR getting anything less than 200hp, so that should apply to a proper vRS too.

And what about the 170hp 2.0 TDI version of which there is talk?

You shouldn't have to tune it. You may as well add abother

Easier to drop the 2.7 twin turbo from the last S4 in innit

The latest S4's 4.2 litre V8 would be my choice I like the 2.7 biturbo from the old S4, but it doesn't meet new emmissions laws. Neither does the 1.8T, IIRC.

I can't imagine the new vRS not being the 2.0 TFSI. I suppose we just need to hold our breath for the state of tune it'll arrive in.

But... the Leon 2.0T FSI is only the "regular" Sport-Up version, so not an FR - which is Seat's opposite to the vRS tag.

Considering the price of the Leon, and that SEAT's pricing is generally similar to Skoda's, then you'd expect a

Christ, people seem to believe what they like on here.

I have it on good authority from someone who knows what they are talking about, who works for skoda, that the vRS will be a 2.0T FSI 197 bhp and 2.0 TDI 170 bhp.

No need to panic guys.

The 185 bhp Leon is just a "Sport". The FR gets the 197 bhp FSI engine, and the Cupra gets a 240 bhp derivative (so i've heard).

As for the 2.0 not being as tunable, it might not be, yet......

Probably so he can have access to all the Stateside mods stuff for Audis....damn...forget Des keep shis cars standard.

Longtitudinal mounting of the engie may be potentially bad for handling...if like Audis the engine is way out infront of the front axle.

ahh now i understand i may be calling for some advice on what to do with my audi then

I'm praying that they don't use the FSi engine and that they drop in a 225bhp 1.8T out of the TT/LCR set up. Stronger engine bits, 2 intercoolers, K04, 280bhp here we come. I won't the engine mounted longitudinally as well, don't want a lot do I.

I heard that you can no longer buy a TT with the above engine according to this weeks Autocar. Are they going to use it somewhere else

Diesel Car magazine have confirmed the 170 bhp diesel vrs.