Checked the oil level today, 1st time after I got it back from the 40K (km) service on Tuesday. This is how it looks:

 

 

It certainly is over the A area above which you shouldn't add any oil according to the manual but is it worth going back and asking them to take it out?? I am not sure.

 

BTW. The check was done the same way I always do my oil checks in order to have some consistency: On the very same flat parking spot, 15-30 minutes after switching off, and after the oil temp has hit 80-85 celcius.

Edited 22 November, 201312 yr by newbie69

That is exactly where i get it when doing a 'Cold Dip' with 3.7 litres of Oil in.

 

I believe that is the level with hot dip when they have put 3.9 litres in,

i have seen it on Several Twinchargers after Services & with proper checks.

I have Drained the Oil and there was over 3.6 litres coming out.&  that was without removing the OIl Filter.

 

'Maybe try the Jabozuma check.'

Car still level,

 Oil Cold,  

Start and stop he engine immediately.   Dip It.

 

The Oil will have gone into the Oil Filter.

 If it shows the same level as that Hot Dip you have done, there is too much oil in probably.

 

PS

I do my 'Hot Dip' 4-5 minutes after Stopping.

I open the Bonnet,( top up the washer bottle while waiting ),

dip it ,

and then close the bonnet.

The Owners manual says 'Wait a few Minutes and pull out the dipstick',    

 

To me 4-5 minutes are 'a few minutes',  

15-30 minutes is not, and gives a different reading.

New or hot Oil is back out of the Oil Filter.

 

george

There is potential for a phenomonon called "oil aeriation" if the sump is well over-filled. This happens when the oil is deep enough (engine running) ro get whipped up by the crankshaft, and can cause poor economy, and bearing damage.

It is not well overfilled though, possibly 0.3 litres only,   but its just not supposed to happen with the car leaving Service.

 

I have seen a Technician pour a whole new 4 Litres from a 4 litre can, into a Twincharger and when i asked what he was doing, he said "they all use Oil".

I pointed out that some do, due to muppets like him.

Also seen Technicians set the 'Oil Pump' at 3.9 litres and then putting that amount in.

 

I Believe that Many of the Twinchargers that went wrong from the First Cars in 2010 had too much oil put in at the PDI or the service before the  Ex Demonstrator is sold.

 

Proof being, if you require any,

just dip some Mk2 Fabia vRS that are for sale on forecourts with a PDI

or the first service just been done.

Maybe at 3-4,000 miles.

 

 

SKODA,  Their words. (They should have listened to them shelves and got the Dipstick & Franchise workshops shorted out)

"The Oil Level must on no account extend beyond range 'A', Danger of damaging the Catalytic Converter."

Right, I also think it's not overfilled by too much so probably won't bother. Just was curious how much they put in "officially". As one technician told George once they know these engines drink some, so they probably think "let's put some more in so it takes longer before he comes back with "Check Oil level" indication on"...

Some just start the car after the oil and filter change, run it a few minutes stop, dip, and maybe put a little more in.

Some get it right, (almost) leave it running a bit, take the car out for a 4-5 mile Road Test, 

come back, leave the car, Dip it hot, then top up a bit more possibly, or not, depends what they think.

So you might get 3.6 litres in you might get near 4 litres.

Invoice will charge for 3.6 litres, 

 

Only thing is, that can also be an Overfill.

The car never reached 50 *oC indicated on the oil, and the Dip is done maybe 5 minutes later, but maybe 15 minutes.

*This gives a different reading, they might well think a little more in will be just right.*

 

The reason i put exactly 3.7 litres in, is that is the top of the Cross Hatch when hot,

& the car runs a nice Lower Oil Temperature with good oil in.

Not so good with Their 5w 30 or 5w 40 Longlife.

 

I have had 3 Dealership Services done to keep cars in Warranty,

then as soon as back home dropped that oil to put in Quality Oil,  kept the same filter in,

and measured and weighed what they put in & what came out.,

they had too much oil in.

 

eg.

Who ever did this Official Oil Consumption Test, either Had in the Wrong Quantity of oil by measurement, at the start of the Test or does not know the weight of Engine Oil.

A litre of 5w 30 Full Synthetic at 15*oC still in an unopened bottle weighs about 900 grams. not 1000 grams.

(A litre @ 15*oC weighs 856 grams.)

That's not a massive overfill.

 

I wonder how long that will take to decrease due to consumption?!

Problem or cause for concern,

is where a car has never been a Oil user and very seldom if ever needs topped up.

Runs with the same correct level for hundreds or thousands of miles.

 

Owners of those should not need to start checking Oil Levels because they paid a supposedly Professional and Qualified Technician to change an Oil and Filter,

and turn the car back out with the correct Oil Level.

 

None of it is Rocket Science only Basic Car Mechanics..

Just them needing to pay attention & do the proper job at least take pride in a simple job well done.

 

Imagine giving them something technically difficult to do.

 

george

I personally recon overfill from new was what caused my diesel engine to go "POP" in under 40,000 miles! At the first service, I was asked if I topped up the oil, which I had not as it already appeared overfull. I think the guy thought I had but said not as he probably thought the manufacturer could not possibly make such an error. (I hadn't) New engine fitted under warranty!

Well as my engine is a 2010 1.2Tsi 77Kw petrol one, my owner's manual states 3.6lt instead of what sk4gw's image above (3.9lt). I really cannot understand how they do perform the oil change. I do remember very clearly that at the very first oil change back in 2010 they put 4.2lt in. I argued with them but they told me it's Ok. The day after the dipstick wrote area A.

 

I used to check my oil when engine is really cold. E.g after a night of standstill. The way the manual states always gives me different readings.

 

By the way now the car has 52.200Km on ckock and keeps consuming about a litre of oil every 15.000km

The '2010 Fabia owners manual' i have also shows 1.2 ltr/77 kW tsi as the oil capacity being 3.6 litres.

 

Sorry about that chart showing different, but i have never bothered looking at the Oil for the other engines.

You can see where Techs doing oil changes might look at their charts & the Info being wrong. (Typos)

The VAG system of dipping engines is a nonsense.

 

george